Davik Posted January 9, 2013 Member ID: 4108 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 2 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 11 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 100 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/05/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 24, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2013 I have a Pontiac grand am 2003. Is there a guide on how to change the rear plugs? Or does some one know how to? Also, are the car manuals worth it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little_old_man Posted January 9, 2013 Member ID: 1194 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 436 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 6692 Content Per Day: 1.30 Reputation: 11691 Achievement Points: 53094 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 76 Joined: 02/27/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 16, 2023 Birthday: 04/15/1960 Share Posted January 9, 2013 I found this with a google search. http://www.ehow.com/how_4507506_replace-spark-plugs-pontiac-grand.html Instructions 1 Park the car in cool, shady area and allow the engine to cool. 2 Remove the parts of the Grand Am engine that hinder access to the spark plugs. For a 2.2 L engine, remove the ignition coil housing. For a 2.4 L engine, remove the bolts that hold the retaining ignition coil and disconnect the electrical connector. Pull the assembly straight up and away from the engine to remove it. For a 3.1 L engine, remove the air cleaner. For a 3.4 L engine, remove the windshield wiper module cover and rotate the engine for service access to the rear spark plugs. 3 Locate the spark plug wire and grab it by the spark plug boot. Twist the boot in both directions and pull back to remove the wire. 4 Insert the spark plug socket over the old spark pull and unscrew it from the cylinder well. Remove the old spark plug. 5 Lubricate the threads of the new spark plug and screw it into the cylinder well. 6 Test the tension and adjust it to the required setting. It needs to be 15 ft-lbs. for a 2.2 L engine, 16 ft-lbs. for a 2.4 L engine, 13 ft-lbs. for a 3.1 L engine, and 11 ft-lbs. for a 3.L engine. 7 Reconnect the spark plug wire and twist it to lock the plug in place. 8 Repeat Steps 3 through 7 for the remaining spark plugs. 9 Replace all of the parts that were removed from the Grand Am in Step 2 to reach to the spark plugs. NITRO and LordOfChaos 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
BUDMAN Posted January 9, 2013 Member ID: 800 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 152 Topic Count: 135 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 6932 Content Per Day: 1.32 Reputation: 4481 Achievement Points: 58136 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 6 Joined: 11/27/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Birthday: 05/29/1957 Device: Windows Share Posted January 9, 2013 Must be a v6 ...rear plugs which motor 3.1 or 3.4 big difference..........to rotate engine #1 make sure trans not in park and e brake applied....... tool hooks up too engine mount and core support to rotate engine forward to gain access...........................suggest plug wires also while you are there,they canbe damaged during removal KaptCrunch and loaderXI 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Davik Posted January 9, 2013 Member ID: 4108 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 2 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 11 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 100 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/05/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 24, 2015 Author Share Posted January 9, 2013 thanks. I think I will hold off on changing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordOfChaos Posted January 9, 2013 Member ID: 3174 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 100 Topic Count: 78 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2162 Content Per Day: 0.48 Reputation: 1645 Achievement Points: 17423 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/03/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 27, 2017 Birthday: 07/24/1957 Share Posted January 9, 2013 ah do it the old fashion way... clean them and re-gap them... good as new eh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUDMAN Posted January 9, 2013 Member ID: 800 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 152 Topic Count: 135 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 6932 Content Per Day: 1.32 Reputation: 4481 Achievement Points: 58136 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 6 Joined: 11/27/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Birthday: 05/29/1957 Device: Windows Share Posted January 9, 2013 When you clean your spark plugs you just cause more ware concerns ...the new type spark plugs are good for 100.000 miles no problem,unless you have an engine concern. Damage_inc- 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
PingLo Posted January 9, 2013 Member ID: 1103 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 64 Topic Count: 119 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1977 Content Per Day: 0.38 Reputation: 1122 Achievement Points: 15642 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 4 Joined: 02/08/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 16, 2013 Birthday: 01/01/2012 Share Posted January 9, 2013 There are only two steps I use anymore. I learned this after taking apart my '91 Daytona Turbo Engine and putting it back together (mostly) Step 1: Take to Dealer or other qualified entity Step 2: Pay them for their expertise and Pickup car LordOfChaos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUDMAN Posted January 9, 2013 Member ID: 800 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 152 Topic Count: 135 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 6932 Content Per Day: 1.32 Reputation: 4481 Achievement Points: 58136 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 6 Joined: 11/27/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Birthday: 05/29/1957 Device: Windows Share Posted January 9, 2013 Good advise Pinglo......can not tell you how many cars/trucks get towed from other shops and my friend was trying to help me........they end up spending more money guessing instead of it being diagnosed correctly...................... Damage_inc- 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
loaderXI Posted January 9, 2013 Member ID: 252 Group: +++ COD2 Head Admin Followers: 71 Topic Count: 392 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 6417 Content Per Day: 1.20 Reputation: 6494 Achievement Points: 54334 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 30 Joined: 09/05/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Birthday: 03/22/1965 Device: Windows Share Posted January 9, 2013 Davic I run Alldata but from ur ? here must be V-6 if so the are 2 stablizer mounts on front at rad support u can unbolt them which will allow motor to tilt forward then yes coil pack will need to come out and I think map sensor 2 screws 2 bolts and a small hose or 2 then u will have full access to rear plugs with room to spare......100.000 miles until u need to do again.....If u feel u need any more info let me know the engine liters to be more exact with year as well..... loADER>XI< LordOfChaos and Damage_inc- 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
KaptCrunch Posted January 9, 2013 Member ID: 389 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 45 Topic Count: 294 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4452 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 3614 Achievement Points: 36393 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 39 Joined: 09/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 23 hours ago Birthday: 01/01/1970 Device: Windows Share Posted January 9, 2013 like bud said add new wires and get the platium plugs for last longer then cheap plugs when installing new plugs start thread by hand only .........if to tight to get hand there use a windsheild washer hose jambed on end of plug note: V6 rear bank passenger side and center is angled to your right and driver side angled to your left (note standing in front of car) also remove spark wire holder with wires as one (1,3,5 wires) and lay on ground to match new ones up use a small flat screw driver to open the spark wires plastic loom holder and take 1 by 1 keeping same spacing as old wire now the fun begins the coilpack ...research you engine size and year below is a sample Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Coorslight Posted January 10, 2013 Member ID: 3399 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 21 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 5 Achievement Points: 121 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/24/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 25, 2017 Birthday: 05/02/1989 Share Posted January 10, 2013 every time i've done rear plugs in FWD v6. undo the Dog-bone engine mount. ratchet strap from the rear of the intake to core support. u can achieve more room then using the next hole on the dog bone. also just because they are sorta of a hassle to change. i've always replaced with Irridiums or platnums so i never have to deal with them for long time. This is from my truck. cheap plugs. these lasted. a month. maybe 2 of 8 junk in 50-100 miles. champions good for sleds and lawn care equipment but ill never buy another for my cars or trucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaptCrunch Posted January 10, 2013 Member ID: 389 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 45 Topic Count: 294 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4452 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 3614 Achievement Points: 36393 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 39 Joined: 09/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 23 hours ago Birthday: 01/01/1970 Device: Windows Share Posted January 10, 2013 every time i've done rear plugs in FWD v6. undo the Dog-bone engine mount. ratchet strap from the rear of the intake to core support. u can achieve more room then using the next hole on the dog bone. also just because they are sorta of a hassle to change. i've always replaced with Irridiums or platnums so i never have to deal with them for long time. This is from my truck. cheap plugs. these lasted. a month. maybe 2 of 8 junk in 50-100 miles. champions good for sleds and lawn care equipment but ill never buy another for my cars or trucks. woah them plugs looks if heavy detotion .......check map sensor/spark knock loaderXI 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
BUDMAN Posted January 11, 2013 Member ID: 800 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 152 Topic Count: 135 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 6932 Content Per Day: 1.32 Reputation: 4481 Achievement Points: 58136 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 6 Joined: 11/27/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Birthday: 05/29/1957 Device: Windows Share Posted January 11, 2013 That is lack of heat transfer................ are the spark plug holes heli-coiled by chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
KaptCrunch Posted January 11, 2013 Member ID: 389 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 45 Topic Count: 294 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4452 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 3614 Achievement Points: 36393 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 39 Joined: 09/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 23 hours ago Birthday: 01/01/1970 Device: Windows Share Posted January 11, 2013 or leaky fuel injector for that cylinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
loaderXI Posted January 11, 2013 Member ID: 252 Group: +++ COD2 Head Admin Followers: 71 Topic Count: 392 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 6417 Content Per Day: 1.20 Reputation: 6494 Achievement Points: 54334 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 30 Joined: 09/05/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Birthday: 03/22/1965 Device: Windows Share Posted January 11, 2013 Always Replace With OEM aka factory recommended or you will change the heat range internally and possibly cause head/cylinder damage....I have on the 3.4 Lt. engines seen them eject the plug from the cylinder due to melt down....Once the head was off at the ports for plugs it was so ate away from the heat the head could no longer support the threads for the plug and nothing left to heli coil to.... Replaced heads problem solved Most engines now a days are made of aluminium and can not take the heat the high performance plugs put out AND SHOULD ALWAYS CHANGE OUT ON A COLD ENGINE NEVER WHEN IT IS HOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
google Posted January 11, 2013 Member ID: 1270 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 149 Topic Count: 330 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 3861 Content Per Day: 0.75 Reputation: 4542 Achievement Points: 34156 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 12 Joined: 03/22/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: 16 hours ago Birthday: 04/12/1969 Device: Windows Share Posted January 11, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Replace+Spark+Plugs+in+a+Pontiac+2003&oq=Replace+Spark+Plugs+in+a+Pontiac+2003&gs_l=youtube.3...18112.19395.0.20697.5.5.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0...0.0...1ac.1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Coorslight Posted January 16, 2013 Member ID: 3399 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 21 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 5 Achievement Points: 121 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/24/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 25, 2017 Birthday: 05/02/1989 Share Posted January 16, 2013 they were cheap plugs being fried by MSD and i duration cam. needs good good plugs. only brand i've ever seen do that in my engine. 450-500 horse 355 sbc. had few hrs and i never reuse my plugs after any tear down. none of the parts stores carried a platnum or irridum plug for my engine. so i threw cheap ones in it and it dropped 2 cylinders first time down the track. burnout box i was fine but after 330 foot mark just completely died. 4500 only higher it would rev. my shift lights @ 7500. but u get what u pay for i guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaptCrunch Posted January 16, 2013 Member ID: 389 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 45 Topic Count: 294 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4452 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 3614 Achievement Points: 36393 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 39 Joined: 09/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 23 hours ago Birthday: 01/01/1970 Device: Windows Share Posted January 16, 2013 they were cheap plugs being fried by MSD and i duration cam. needs good good plugs. only brand i've ever seen do that in my engine. 450-500 horse 355 sbc. had few hrs and i never reuse my plugs after any tear down. none of the parts stores carried a platnum or irridum plug for my engine. so i threw cheap ones in it and it dropped 2 cylinders first time down the track. burnout box i was fine but after 330 foot mark just completely died. 4500 only higher it would rev. my shift lights @ 7500. but u get what u pay for i guess ever tried surface gap plugs, one with out ground tang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Coorslight Posted January 24, 2013 Member ID: 3399 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 21 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 5 Achievement Points: 121 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/24/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 25, 2017 Birthday: 05/02/1989 Share Posted January 24, 2013 no i havent. my best luck has been hot burning plugs. lately i've tried these silver tip accels. 6 on the heat range compared to 5 with irridiums. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/acc-526s/overview/make/chevrolet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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