BigPapaDean Posted April 20, 2014 Member ID: 1128 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 78 Topic Count: 1188 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 6490 Content Per Day: 1.26 Reputation: 4396 Achievement Points: 63167 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 5 Joined: 02/13/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 19 Birthday: 10/21/1954 Device: Windows Author Share Posted April 20, 2014 This is my latest! djMot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
7Toes Posted April 20, 2014 Member ID: 87 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 57 Topic Count: 98 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3789 Content Per Day: 0.71 Reputation: 3589 Achievement Points: 27249 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 18, 2022 Birthday: 04/02/1871 Share Posted April 20, 2014 (edited) wow went to ping test uses java not good and wants unrestricted access to your computer also not a good thing, with the crap that's out there today not a good thing to let a site have unrestricted access to your computer Edited April 20, 2014 by 7toes_ky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
djMot Posted April 20, 2014 Member ID: 3189 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 93 Topic Count: 355 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 5230 Content Per Day: 1.18 Reputation: 11104 Achievement Points: 48729 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 112 Joined: 02/11/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: 3 hours ago Birthday: 12/24/1957 Device: Windows Share Posted April 20, 2014 This is my latest! Dean - you're only pinging to your local ISP. Click on the server down in Dallas for a ping that more closely reflects what you see in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
djMot Posted April 20, 2014 Member ID: 3189 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 93 Topic Count: 355 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 5230 Content Per Day: 1.18 Reputation: 11104 Achievement Points: 48729 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 112 Joined: 02/11/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: 3 hours ago Birthday: 12/24/1957 Device: Windows Share Posted April 20, 2014 wow went to ping test uses java not good and wants unrestricted access to your computer also not a good thing, with the crap that's out there today not a good thing to let a site have unrestricted access to your computer It only uses Java for the packet loss statistic, not the ping test. Notice on mine where it says "Unable to test packet loss" (on Dean's too - good thing, Dean) - that is the only downside to not having Java running in the browser. And it shouldn't be. If you're seeing a packet loss statistic in your ping test, TURN JAVA OFF IN YOUR BROWSER !!! (Has the NSA not told you that? lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
djMot Posted April 20, 2014 Member ID: 3189 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 93 Topic Count: 355 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 5230 Content Per Day: 1.18 Reputation: 11104 Achievement Points: 48729 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 112 Joined: 02/11/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: 3 hours ago Birthday: 12/24/1957 Device: Windows Share Posted April 20, 2014 Here are some graphs taken over roughly the same period of time. One is using the new utility I mentioned I would be using. It's called PingPlotter, and it gathers ping data over time, displaying it in an easily interpreted graphiocal and tabular manner. So the piano was back this morning: And this is what the PingPlotter graph was showing: Note that the destination address is shown as "Unavailable" as is the hop right before it. This does not surprise me, but it is disappointing nonetheless. It is most likely that SoftLayer is actively denying a response to a ping request (or a request of the type the "freeware" PingPlotter is sending - the "standard" or "pro" versions of PingPlotter might have better luck.) What IS telling to me is the high pings (really long hi/low bars) to a couple of the nodes on the "networklayer" peering network. Specifically, it's at the Dallas end of of the route which you should be able to discern by the node addresses. The highest ping is at the hand-off to SoftLayer where the IP addresses change from 173.whatever to 50.whatever. I think if you add intermittently high peering network pings to those of the already high international players (Panzergirl in Germany was playing with a ping just shy of 300 this morning) and the game server may be having fits trying to mitigate the high ping differentials. Yes, the server does try to account for these differences from what I'm seeing in the server config files. All that can really be done about the peering network faults is request that SoftLayer talk to networklayer to see if they can clean up the connection. This would seemingly benefit all SoftLayer customers. If you run PingPlotter, you may find you have an entirely different route to the server as there are many different peering networks out there. Obviously, I'm on Charter Internet and the first 13 hops on this graph are all within Charter-land. The peering network begins where Charter ends. SoftLayer, where the XI game servers live, is at the other end and reporting 100% packet loss, but again, I interpret this to mean SoftLayer is discarding ping requests of the type PingPlotter is sending. For those of you interested in PingPlotter, you can find it here (use the link at the bottom of the page for the freeware version): http://www.pingplotter.com/freeware.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
TheLastColdBeer Posted April 20, 2014 Member ID: 489 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 51 Topic Count: 547 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 4668 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 5849 Achievement Points: 41007 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 14 Joined: 09/22/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 14 hours ago Birthday: 01/09/1963 Device: Kindle Fire Share Posted April 20, 2014 Ran fine this morning, haven't played all day, so haven't had any issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
BigPapaDean Posted April 20, 2014 Member ID: 1128 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 78 Topic Count: 1188 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 6490 Content Per Day: 1.26 Reputation: 4396 Achievement Points: 63167 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 5 Joined: 02/13/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 19 Birthday: 10/21/1954 Device: Windows Author Share Posted April 20, 2014 So here is one to Dallas but my head hurts now from all that hard work figuring out how to change the location. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Labob Posted April 20, 2014 Member ID: 42 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 50 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 8258 Content Per Day: 1.55 Reputation: 5965 Achievement Points: 53557 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 12 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 16 minutes ago Birthday: 01/30/1959 Device: Windows Share Posted April 20, 2014 Oh Dean fuck you with your 47 meg down load and I wish I knew better words for that upload BigPapaDean 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
djMot Posted April 21, 2014 Member ID: 3189 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 93 Topic Count: 355 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 5230 Content Per Day: 1.18 Reputation: 11104 Achievement Points: 48729 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 112 Joined: 02/11/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: 3 hours ago Birthday: 12/24/1957 Device: Windows Share Posted April 21, 2014 Oh Dean fuck you with your 47 meg down load and I wish I knew better words for that upload Right? But don't look at mine either, Labob. But even I can't match Dean's upload rate. That's just sick, Dean. BigPapaDean 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
djMot Posted April 21, 2014 Member ID: 3189 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 93 Topic Count: 355 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 5230 Content Per Day: 1.18 Reputation: 11104 Achievement Points: 48729 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 112 Joined: 02/11/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: 3 hours ago Birthday: 12/24/1957 Device: Windows Share Posted April 21, 2014 This noontime on the DM Server, there was a lot of lag and micro-CIs. I captured some video, and a PingPlotter graph. I'm hoping, @@Ruggerxi, that you might open a conversation with SoftLayer regarding the congestion we are seeing at nodes immediately adjacent to their servers. This may be occurring outside of their jurisdiction, but it's close enough that they should have a rapport with networklayer. Not everyone was seeing the lag and micro-CIs, but a good number of us were undeniably affected. Again, I think it just depends on what peering network you are routed to SoftLayer on whether you'll have any issues or not. Given the sometimes crappy encoding xfire does to video, I'm not sure the lag will be all that evident, but I could definitely see it on the raw avi video. Note several comments on lag in the vid. http://www.xfire.com/videos/623ac8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Olive Posted April 21, 2014 Member ID: 69 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 50 Topic Count: 227 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 2660 Content Per Day: 0.50 Reputation: 4123 Achievement Points: 22968 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 19 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 13 hours ago Birthday: 05/07/1965 Device: Windows Share Posted April 21, 2014 01:00 pm cst ...almost unplayable for me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Ruggerxi Posted April 21, 2014 Member ID: 6 Group: ++++ Senior Admin Followers: 184 Topic Count: 2827 Topics Per Day: 0.53 Content Count: 11822 Content Per Day: 2.22 Reputation: 12854 Achievement Points: 106279 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 123 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Monday at 02:03 AM Birthday: 08/25/1976 Device: iPhone Share Posted April 21, 2014 We had this same issue with a COD4 server, there was a bad hop and if you went through it you were getting the lag and if you didn't go through it then your game play was perfect. If you can run a traceroute to the server ip address and then post your route on here we can find the problem hop. But we need it from people having issues and people not having issues to see where the difference is. Then we can tell the network data center Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
djMot Posted April 22, 2014 Member ID: 3189 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 93 Topic Count: 355 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 5230 Content Per Day: 1.18 Reputation: 11104 Achievement Points: 48729 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 112 Joined: 02/11/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: 3 hours ago Birthday: 12/24/1957 Device: Windows Share Posted April 22, 2014 For those of you who can and would like to help, what Rugger is suggesting is to: Click the Windows Start Orb (or whatever you call it, or however you get to your Windows Start Menu) enter CMD to launch a DOS prompt enter "TRACERT 50.97.113.67" (without quotes of course) Once you get to where the command starts timing out (or finishes, but mine always times out,) grab a screenshot (http://app.prntscr.com/ - a very cool utility to make screenshots a breeze.) post your picture here. Simpler than a Screenshot: You can also click the little DOS Prompt icon in the upper left on the title bar of the DOS prompt window to open the control menu, then click Edit/Select All, and then go back into that menu again and this time select Edit/Copy. Finally, paste the stuff you just copied into a post here. For the more adventurous: Get PingPlotter (I posted the link in the first screenshot I posted from it above; it installs clean without any crapware riding along in the installer.) Enter the IP address in the "Address to Trace" text box, then set all the settings above to big Trace/Stop button to look like mine. Start it (i.e., Click "Trace") and go play a couple of maps. After a map or two, from the PingPlotter Edit menu, click Copy as Image Paste into a post here (literally hit Ctrl+V or Right-click/Paste) and the image will show up in your post. Advantage to using PingPlotter: If you ARE affected, PingPlotter will better capture the "worst case" scenario. If you just run a tracert, you might get a decent report even if you've been affected by the lag/CI issue. Why? Look at a PingPlotter graph and notice that, for the nodes along the route that are showing a long hi/low ping bar, their AVG ping is still good, but the MAX ping is probably spiking up when there's a lag/CI episode in progress. But since the lag/CIs come and go, even during any given map, you could easily capture a tracert (which only runs once, not continuously like PingPlotter) that captures an "AVG" ping rather than a MAX ping. PingPlotter is way better at detecting intermittent lag/CI issues than a straight tracert since it keeps repeating the test and building the statistics over time. If you have never had an issue with lag and CIs, please do this anyway because we need route information showing that some routes are clean while others are dirty. Thanks everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
JohnnyDos Posted April 22, 2014 Member ID: 77 Group: Fallen Members Followers: 111 Topic Count: 1018 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 7527 Content Per Day: 1.41 Reputation: 9175 Achievement Points: 69486 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 47 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 8, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2014 (edited) Hope I did it right Mot,hey the magic word today is LightShot.I used it twice today.You know what I'm talking about.Thanks. Edited April 22, 2014 by JohnnyDos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruggerxi Posted April 22, 2014 Member ID: 6 Group: ++++ Senior Admin Followers: 184 Topic Count: 2827 Topics Per Day: 0.53 Content Count: 11822 Content Per Day: 2.22 Reputation: 12854 Achievement Points: 106279 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 123 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Monday at 02:03 AM Birthday: 08/25/1976 Device: iPhone Share Posted April 22, 2014 That's right Johnny Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
2_MANY_BEERS Posted April 22, 2014 Member ID: 96 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 107 Topic Count: 1047 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 8796 Content Per Day: 1.65 Reputation: 3290 Achievement Points: 62083 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 5 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 7 hours ago Birthday: 06/30/1954 Device: Windows Share Posted April 22, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labob Posted April 22, 2014 Member ID: 42 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 50 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 8258 Content Per Day: 1.55 Reputation: 5965 Achievement Points: 53557 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 12 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 16 minutes ago Birthday: 01/30/1959 Device: Windows Share Posted April 22, 2014 I now got bad internet aND BAD EYES mR. bEERS - JohnnyDos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Labob Posted April 22, 2014 Member ID: 42 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 50 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 8258 Content Per Day: 1.55 Reputation: 5965 Achievement Points: 53557 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 12 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 16 minutes ago Birthday: 01/30/1959 Device: Windows Share Posted April 22, 2014 Here's mine LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
BigPapaDean Posted April 22, 2014 Member ID: 1128 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 78 Topic Count: 1188 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 6490 Content Per Day: 1.26 Reputation: 4396 Achievement Points: 63167 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 5 Joined: 02/13/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 19 Birthday: 10/21/1954 Device: Windows Author Share Posted April 22, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
JohnnyDos Posted April 22, 2014 Member ID: 77 Group: Fallen Members Followers: 111 Topic Count: 1018 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 7527 Content Per Day: 1.41 Reputation: 9175 Achievement Points: 69486 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 47 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 8, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2014 (edited) I'll try Ping Plotter when I play later or tomorrow. Edited April 22, 2014 by JohnnyDos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labob Posted April 22, 2014 Member ID: 42 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 50 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 8258 Content Per Day: 1.55 Reputation: 5965 Achievement Points: 53557 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 12 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 16 minutes ago Birthday: 01/30/1959 Device: Windows Share Posted April 22, 2014 Tried again at 11.30 and 11.45 same results as above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Labob Posted April 22, 2014 Member ID: 42 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 50 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 8258 Content Per Day: 1.55 Reputation: 5965 Achievement Points: 53557 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 12 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 16 minutes ago Birthday: 01/30/1959 Device: Windows Share Posted April 22, 2014 Hmm both the dm and new FT server are doing this. Is it possible this is on purpose to help them with denial of service attacks or somthing like that ?? djMot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
djMot Posted April 22, 2014 Member ID: 3189 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 93 Topic Count: 355 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 5230 Content Per Day: 1.18 Reputation: 11104 Achievement Points: 48729 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 112 Joined: 02/11/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: 3 hours ago Birthday: 12/24/1957 Device: Windows Share Posted April 22, 2014 Here's mine LOL LOL - try paying your internet bill once in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
djMot Posted April 22, 2014 Member ID: 3189 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 93 Topic Count: 355 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 5230 Content Per Day: 1.18 Reputation: 11104 Achievement Points: 48729 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 112 Joined: 02/11/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: 3 hours ago Birthday: 12/24/1957 Device: Windows Share Posted April 22, 2014 Hmm both the dm and new FT server are doing this. Is it possible this is on purpose to help them with denial of service attacks or somthing like that ?? Could be. Looks like your ISP is discarding ping request packets. Does tracert work, or just immediately time out also? It really looks like you're not even getting out of your router. Do you have a firewall turned on in the router? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Labob Posted April 23, 2014 Member ID: 42 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 50 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 8258 Content Per Day: 1.55 Reputation: 5965 Achievement Points: 53557 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 12 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 16 minutes ago Birthday: 01/30/1959 Device: Windows Share Posted April 23, 2014 I'll pay them once they give me a tiny little look at this interweby thing. As for out of the router well. The internet comes out of dlink box and from the dlink box I run a wire to the top of the chimney where I got me an internet antenna. So I'm using the new cloud based internet - and the electricity comes out of the hole in the wall. Yea I do not know why mine is not showing all the hops (could be we have dead bunny's from Easter around here) Here's some other's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
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