Twinkie 13 Posted July 30, 2014 Member ID: 3003 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 26 Topic Count: 36 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 415 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 340 Achievement Points: 3564 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/21/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: 17 hours ago Birthday: 03/17/1979 Device: Windows Share Posted July 30, 2014 Hello fellow wrench heads. I have a couple questions to ask you. I have a 2000 Mustang GT automatic that I bought brand new. It has 200,000 miles on it now. I have always used 5w20 synthetic blend oil. Just about every time I get the oil changed they tell me I should be using 5w30 instead. The manual that came with the car says 5w20 as well as the oil filler cap on the engine. I live in north Alabama and it gets hot here in the summer so should I stick with the 5w20 or should I switch to 5w30 because of the mileage and heat of summer? Next is about my brakes. I had all 4 corners done with new rotors and pads about 3 months ago. I normally would do this myself but can't due to my knee injury. Anyway, the work great and all at light to medium braking but at hard braking they make a horrible grinding sound. I got the parts from Rockauto and not the cheapo set either. Any suggestions as to what it might be? Could it be wheel bearing or caliper guide pin sticking? Any suggestions would be great thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Dark Asylumn Posted July 30, 2014 Member ID: 809 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 41 Topic Count: 251 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2835 Content Per Day: 0.54 Reputation: 1016 Achievement Points: 20374 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/29/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Birthday: 06/25/1979 Device: Windows Share Posted July 30, 2014 (edited) it is recommended to run a little thicker oil in hotter environments. there is a sliding scale the shows what temp range is ideal for that particular brands weights. most people run the same year round some dont some have extreme seasonal shifts. it will not hurt to run 5 30 in the summer do what you are comfortable with after finding what temperature range you are normally dealing with edit to 5 30 not 10 30 Edited July 31, 2014 by Dark Asylumn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
BUDMAN Posted July 31, 2014 Member ID: 800 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 152 Topic Count: 135 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 6940 Content Per Day: 1.32 Reputation: 4486 Achievement Points: 58192 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 6 Joined: 11/27/09 Status: Online Last Seen: Just now Birthday: 05/29/1957 Device: Windows Share Posted July 31, 2014 What kind of pads did they put on ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Twinkie 13 Posted July 31, 2014 Member ID: 3003 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 26 Topic Count: 36 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 415 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 340 Achievement Points: 3564 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/21/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: 17 hours ago Birthday: 03/17/1979 Device: Windows Author Share Posted July 31, 2014 i bought ceramic pads. Ive never had those pads make that sound before. I was told that one of the rubber boots on the right rear caliper guide pin was torn and the pin had rust on it. I guess that could make it stick. I should just buy new pins and boots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
hxtr Posted July 31, 2014 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.17 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129713 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Share Posted July 31, 2014 Don't change your oil weight. If you car asks for 5w20 and you are not leaking oil or burning oil.. don't change a thing. 5w20 is a 5 weight oil with 20 weight protection but still a 5 weight oil. 5w30 will be 30 weight protection. 10w30 10 weight oil with 30 weight protection. 10 cold.. still 10 hot but protects like a 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hxtr Posted July 31, 2014 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.17 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129713 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Share Posted July 31, 2014 i bought ceramic pads. Ive never had those pads make that sound before. I was told that one of the rubber boots on the right rear caliper guide pin was torn and the pin had rust on it. I guess that could make it stick. I should just buy new pins and boots. Ceramic are crap.... not recommended. They will cause noise as the pads are very hard. Only use semi metallic. If it is the last time you are going to use your rotors and you plan to replace.. you can use full metallic but it will eat up the rotor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaptCrunch Posted July 31, 2014 Member ID: 389 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 45 Topic Count: 295 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4459 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 3617 Achievement Points: 36442 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 39 Joined: 09/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 4 hours ago Birthday: 01/01/1970 Device: Windows Share Posted July 31, 2014 noise is from the rotor for it's not totally flat due to pad is harder then rotor and cuts/groove in surface leaving a edge/shoulder width of face of pad all normal for soft rotors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Dark Asylumn Posted July 31, 2014 Member ID: 809 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 41 Topic Count: 251 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2835 Content Per Day: 0.54 Reputation: 1016 Achievement Points: 20374 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/29/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Birthday: 06/25/1979 Device: Windows Share Posted July 31, 2014 Don't change your oil weight. If you car asks for 5w20 and you are not leaking oil or burning oil.. don't change a thing. 5w20 is a 5 weight oil with 20 weight protection but still a 5 weight oil. 5w30 will be 30 weight protection. 10w30 10 weight oil with 30 weight protection. 10 cold.. still 10 hot but protects like a 30. the first number infront of the w stands for the viscosity in winter temperatures. the second number is hot viscosity. so a 5w 20 act like a 5 weight in cold climates when used in hot environments its the viscosity of a 20 excerpt from amsoil OK . . .What does a 5W-30 do that an SAE 30 won't? When you see a W on a viscosity rating it means that this oil viscosity has been tested at a Colder temperature. The numbers without the W are all tested at 210° F or 100° C which is considered an approximation of engine operating temperature. In other words, a SAE 30 motor oil is the same viscosity as a 10w-30 or 5W-30 at 210° (100° C). The difference is when the viscosity is tested at a much colder temperature. For example, a 5W-30 motor oil performs like a SAE 5 motor oil would perform at the cold temperature specified, but still has the SAE 30 viscosity at 210° F (100° C) which is engine operating temperature. This allows the engine to get quick oil flow when it is started cold verses dry running until lubricant either warms up sufficiently or is finally forced through the engine oil system. The advantages of a low W viscosity number is obvious. The quicker the oil flows cold, the less dry running. Less dry running means much less engine wear. http://www.upmpg.com/tech_articles/motoroil_viscosity/ hxtr, Twinkie 13 and Bullet 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
hxtr Posted July 31, 2014 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.17 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129713 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Share Posted July 31, 2014 (edited) the first number infront of the w stands for the viscosity in winter temperatures. the second number is hot viscosity. so a 5w 20 act like a 5 weight in cold climates when used in hot environments its the viscosity of a 20 excerpt from amsoil OK . . .What does a 5W-30 do that an SAE 30 won't? When you see a W on a viscosity rating it means that this oil viscosity has been tested at a Colder temperature. The numbers without the W are all tested at 210° F or 100° C which is considered an approximation of engine operating temperature. In other words, a SAE 30 motor oil is the same viscosity as a 10w-30 or 5W-30 at 210° (100° C). The difference is when the viscosity is tested at a much colder temperature. For example, a 5W-30 motor oil performs like a SAE 5 motor oil would perform at the cold temperature specified, but still has the SAE 30 viscosity at 210° F (100° C) which is engine operating temperature. This allows the engine to get quick oil flow when it is started cold verses dry running until lubricant either warms up sufficiently or is finally forced through the engine oil system. The advantages of a low W viscosity number is obvious. The quicker the oil flows cold, the less dry running. Less dry running means much less engine wear. http://www.upmpg.com/tech_articles/motoroil_viscosity/ It is all about viscosity.... I am wrong on the 20 and 30 part being bad. Better millage with 5w20. What you think? Edited July 31, 2014 by hxtr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Asylumn Posted July 31, 2014 Member ID: 809 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 41 Topic Count: 251 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2835 Content Per Day: 0.54 Reputation: 1016 Achievement Points: 20374 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/29/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Birthday: 06/25/1979 Device: Windows Share Posted July 31, 2014 (edited) your backwards on your numbers there a 5 20 and a 10 20 and a 0 20 are all 3 20 weights at temp its what happens to them at cold temps that makes them different. if youre still in texas i dont think a -w is gonna affect you any due to your temps hardly ever getting much below the 32 degree mark. that being said I only run straight wieght (sae 20 sae 30) in small engines eg lawn mowers 4 wheelers stuff like that. i am also an endorser of full syn. oil but my vehicles are considered extreme duty and need all the extra protection I can get. i also use to think zmaxx was just a gimmic until we put a new i/o motor in out boat and used zmaxx. at about 20 hrs we had a filter spin off and drain all the oil. we ran it for about 20 mins no oil and once we got it back in the garage we pulled the pan and head. that fucker looked brand new there was not 1 scratch in the bore and the bearings looked beautiful. since thta point I have run it in all my engines. I have 243000 miles on a 5.4l v8 gas burner that i pull 16000 lbs with and my gross weight is 23000lbs. that truck was designed for 11500lbs. i might not get good mileage but the engine is as strong as it was the first time I pulled with it. Edited July 31, 2014 by Dark Asylumn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Twinkie 13 Posted July 31, 2014 Member ID: 3003 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 26 Topic Count: 36 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 415 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 340 Achievement Points: 3564 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/21/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: 17 hours ago Birthday: 03/17/1979 Device: Windows Author Share Posted July 31, 2014 So should I switch to 5w30 then. My mileage is over 200,000 now. I can't afford for it to crap out on me any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Dark Asylumn Posted July 31, 2014 Member ID: 809 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 41 Topic Count: 251 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2835 Content Per Day: 0.54 Reputation: 1016 Achievement Points: 20374 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/29/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Birthday: 06/25/1979 Device: Windows Share Posted July 31, 2014 i would use what it calls for which is 5 20. if you are worried about high mileage all the top brands have formulas designed for those applications. they have certain additives that are said to condition different parts of the internals. some say they work some say the dont. i say if you take care of it properly from day one its going to last you for a ong time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
BUDMAN Posted July 31, 2014 Member ID: 800 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 152 Topic Count: 135 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 6940 Content Per Day: 1.32 Reputation: 4486 Achievement Points: 58192 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 6 Joined: 11/27/09 Status: Online Last Seen: Just now Birthday: 05/29/1957 Device: Windows Share Posted July 31, 2014 The new trucks are running 0w-20 with 8.5 qts....... Dark Asylumn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
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