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I am certain I will get a lot of flak from all across the spectrum for saying what I am about to say. I think we have too many people whining and complaining about all sorts of things in the game. Before I even list the issues I am guilty of doing the same but I think it ruins the game play and it should change as it creates an unhealthy environment. To be clear, I am speaking specifically about the in-game chat.

 

It is understood and normal to be upset when you get shot. It is equally important that instead of trying to blame this on something you accept it as a reality of the game and keep playing. Raging is amateur and childish. There is a very clear distinction between trash-talking banter for amusement vs just "bitching". Actually, a second thought its not so obvious to everyone. 

 

Lag

Fair enough, but deal with it you cannot fix it by complaining.

 

CIs 

Fair and known issue, again not much you can do in-game

 

Blown up by car

Typical responses "w/e", "bs" - I am sure you feel different when you do that to others.

 

Camping

It's part of the game, it sucks to be shot by someone who does not move much but it is fair. You can do the same if you like. Fuck you Nighto/Monika. 

 

Hacking 

This one comes in all shapes and sizes, however, I would like to state a few things.

 

-  High kills low death count does not implicitly mean someone is hacking.

Explanation: You find a good spot to camp, where its hard for people to get to you and you pick them off. Some notable players who are good at finding spots in maps Nighto, @@GoOney, @@Ripper, @@iFlysoHi etc. It is one example of achieving a very high KDR. In this game people generally rush and that's why you get shot so often, you've to be strategic with your movement. 

 

- Where did I get shot from?

Explanation: It happens to me a lot especially from players like Mexican, @@GoOney, @@ReaPeR, sometimes even from unusual offenders. M16A is a very powerful and accurate weapon. All anyone has to do is get one good shot on you (pixel) and then hide real quick before you show up in your bubble. If they have the Dead Silence perk, it tends to hide the flash from the bullet, that's my working theory. In this way, you have no idea where the bullet came from and the best you can do is make approximations from the bullet sound direction right before you died. Not everyone is very good at figuring it out and not everyone gets it right all the time either.

 

- How did you know I was there?

Explanation: Your mother told me, j/k. This one I think reflects badly on the one complaining than the one who got the kill. It just speaks to the lack of situational awareness you have in-game. The only two people who baffle me some times are 'kilmaley' & '@@TaGg3r'. How people usually know is by sound, and your ability to tell direction from virtual surround. This is mostly true for Urban maps. A few other things to consider are, shadows, teammates looking at you, hardwired, intel, UAV, and seeing someone run up in there.

 

- I was invisible how were you following me?

Explanation: You may be running in your spawn protection but unless you're using Dead Silence perk you are making a sound. Pro-mod players have fine tuned ears for sound tracking. It's just as real as cow dung itself. I am personally not that good with sound so I am not really able to track any invisible person. If I get a shield by shooting in clear space I keep hip-fire spamming until they appear. It works 1 out of 100 times for me, mostly I just run out of ammo.

 

- How can you see thru smoke/grass etc?

Explanation:

Smoke, well, when the smoke is new or dying off, your shadowy figure may appear. Other times, people spam in the general direction of the last know location. Also, random shots contribute to this too.

 

As far as trees go, this puzzled me too. I often get shot from someone while I am buried in grass or behind thick tree leaves. I have not figured out the tree leaves part yet. IMO hacking or unfair advantage claims may be legit, I have no proof though. I actually got kicked by Punkbuster while trying to find proof. (Murphy you remember when I got kicked for lodscalerigid?  that's what that was)

 

For the grass I found out that your graphics card's rendering process and available VRAM has a lot to do with it. On NVidia graphics cards, it doesn't render the entire effects of the field on a very large shrubbery map. So if you're lying prone in open grass, someone on the other side of the map will see lying on flat in open ground. Just to find proof, I bought a GTX760 and tested it. My actual GFX card is AMD 270x.

 

 

There may be other issues/concerns that I may have missed, please post back and I will try to best explain it as I understand. The whole point to this post is that the moment someone starts getting shot a few times by the same player, they tend to judge on their expectation of how things ought to be. There are people who do fishy things on our server no doubt, and we should be vigilant to ensure an enjoyable gaming environment. At the same time, this whole culture of complaining and calling people hackers, apart from when you mean it as a compliment, has created an unhealthy server.  

 

Just because someone is doing better than you, does not mean its impossible to be that good with legit ways. Flooding admins with complaints about things that can be logically explained just creates a frustrating atmosphere. Some people are competitive in game and they try their best to be on top, others like @@Unchileno do it for the sake of pure enjoyment. 

 

Bottom line: Quit complaining, improve your game. [Yes, you have my permission to hate me for saying this, hater]

 

 

General Tip: Your weapon kit loadout, and your killstreak selection plays a big role in how well you do in a game. 

 

 

Recourse

Instead of starting a keyboard war in the game, I suggest you take it to the forums. If you suspect something fishy, go to spec, record and submit to an admin. Use the /record GameDemo command in the console, activated by ~ operator. 

 

P.S. The names  mentioned above are of people whom I have had personal experience playing with and I understand their game play.

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Some people complain because that's how they deal with shit. That said I agree with you Boom, sometimes people take it beyond coping with something. It's like a auto reaction that is a go to when something doesn't go as planned. I rage too but I do most of it off mic,that way I'm not annoying anyone but my house mate LOL. Anyway, good on ya, you spoke your mind in a constructive way :thumbup:

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@@iboomboom Here the thing most of us PLAY the game not sit in spec. hours on end just to watch others play and pipe up on how others play. That's why I always tell u to hush in spec cuz if u can't play then u need to keep quite in spec.

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@@iboomboom Here the thing most of us PLAY the game not sit in spec. hours on end just to watch others play and pipe up on how others play. That's why I always tell u to hush in spec cuz if u can't play then u need to keep quite in spec.

 

What's wrong with spectating, it is by definition watching stuff happen. How people play or for that matter conversing on it is a form of entertainment in itself. People watch sports, and comment about game play. I watch COD4 and comment on the players, the whole point is entertainment, no?

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sorry wrong thread.

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What's wrong with spectating, it is by definition watching stuff happen. How people play or for that matter conversing on it is a form of entertainment in itself. People watch sports, and comment about game play. I watch COD4 and comment on the players, the whole point is entertainment, no?

 

 

Boom Boom, you are very weird .... :lol:

 

you need to get out more ....

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Maybe only in the sense that he thinks XI is a pro NFL team?

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Actually I kinda get what he means about the spectating thing. To try and troubleshoot any problems with the servers I have been in spectate for hours on end the past few days just watching and reading chat to see the lag complaints (they are few and far between).

 

I have really enjoyed just watching people play :)

 

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LOL @@Sitting-Duc where did you get that signature it's awesome. I just wasted two minutes of my life I will never get watching the whale chase my cursor around. Now if you can only make one with @@hxtr face it would be so cool. Oh BTW good post @@iboomboom you voyeuristic beeech. 

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Me spectating that's the highlight you get from all that I wrote? Idiots, Xtreme Idiots! 

 

!fu @Giggles 

 

 

Boom Boom, you are very weird .... :lol:

 

you need to get out more ....

 

I did, it was scary I ran back in.

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all i hear is a lot of bla bla bla bla and then some more Justin timberlake: Cry me a river!! shut the F up and play the game!! whining, camping, What ever comments and so on, is also a part of the game! Stop spectating, keep on whining and so on! stop talking so much and game!! WANKERS!! 

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Boom you talk too much. Get back in the game

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Well said BoomBoom, I too am guilty of raging when I get shot but its more of a reaction that anything because it seems like I have a bullseye on my forehead. But listening to people whine and complain saying that our admins are not doing their job because this person just CANT be legit and their still in the server or "They need Punkbuster and half the people wouldnt be here".....thats a quote I hear alot...It gets annoying. The big issue is that the more these people complain to the higher ups the more the higher ups are pressured into taking some sort of action just for someone being a good player..THATS NOT RIGHT!! Our servers are public for a reason and that is for everyone to be able to join and HAVE FUN... I made a in-game bind and I stick to it...If you feel that someone is hacking then spectate them and record them and post it on here. It does no good to whine about it to everyone on your team, STOP WHINING!!!! An admin will deal with it accordingly and im sure promptly. This game is suppose to be fun and to me whats not making it fun is listening to people whine that they are being hacked, or that someone just CANT be legit. I have no issue in saying that if you cant handle the heat, get the fuck out of the kitchen!! Well done BoomBoom!!!

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So boom when I own you like normal and your crying I can refer you to your own post

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Cheaters, ok well they will eventually be caught.   I don't worry about it.  

 

I do know the one thing that pissed me off was the other day, I had just spawned(yes I use stealth on that class) and you were calling me out.   Now while I ran out of the building you chased me with your lil car and kept calling me out, even after I became visible.  You say you were guessing, that's one hell of an amazing guess with 15/16 other people on my team.  I didn't accuse  you or anything but it really set me off that you guessed right.   See eavesdrop is very evil at times...

 

I don't have any problems with you besides that or anyone else for that matter.  I don't get to play like I used to so I just enjoy it when I do. 

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@@iboomboom !FU too seeing I was joking with u but hey ain't nothing new around here ........... I should learn to just keep my mouth shut but hell I ain't learned that in 36 yrs don't think  I will anytime soon so  FU 

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@@iboomboom !FU too seeing I was joking with u but hey ain't nothing new around here ........... I should learn to just keep my mouth shut but hell I ain't learned that in 36 yrs don't think I will anytime soon so FU

jiggle jiggle jiggles yeah.... I am sorry A few weeks ago I was speccing more and playing less, personal reasons. I have been playing more this week. Figured I address it since you brought it up as you were probably not alone in noticing that.

 

It is addiciting figuring out how people think when they play. Its like mind fucking without any commitments, hahah.

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So boom when I own you like normal and your crying I can refer you to your own post

 

Those are compliments S@lty, I will soon write an iBoomBoom's guide to compliments. I will refer you to that, haha!  I am never mad when I get killed, when I yell or call people names its simply trash talking. I won't be offended if you mute me, honest.

 

Cheaters, ok well they will eventually be caught.   I don't worry about it.  

 

I do know the one thing that pissed me off was the other day, I had just spawned(yes I use stealth on that class) and you were calling me out.   Now while I ran out of the building you chased me with your lil car and kept calling me out, even after I became visible.  You say you were guessing, that's one hell of an amazing guess with 15/16 other people on my team.  I didn't accuse  you or anything but it really set me off that you guessed right.   See eavesdrop is very evil at times...

 

I don't have any problems with you besides that or anyone else for that matter.  I don't get to play like I used to so I just enjoy it when I do. 

 

I know where everyone is, I am amazingly magical that way :D

 

Explanation: In the round before that one you were in that bunker one of the last few of your team, taking out my teammates as they approached the door.  Between my teammates reducing bubbles and the corner of the door, I saw your feet and shot my tube. Upon your death you uttered "ofc". I know the feeling wasn't mutual but I enjoyed it, since it was someone formidable that I took out. That kill gave me a car.

 

I used as soon as I came out of spawn protection. The timer is equal for everyone, so I assure you you were very visible when you decided to run to the same spot and I tried to blow up the car on you. Stealth perk has nothing to do with this. My running and using the car in that direction was completely random, so was your spawning I think. When I tried to blow up the car, it showed me the Hardwired (aka Eavesdrop) icon. This is where psychology comes in, how people think and do things. When we have success, we try to do the same things to achieve similar results. I guessed with a 7% probability of success that it is you, since you were there last round. So knowing you can hear me, I enticed you without any certainty that is indeed you. I was hoping you would say something so I can be sure. I do it to {ESC} Bas too when he is sniping from the usual spots. I kept chasing you, because It's more of  a challenge to kill someone who is using Hardwired and trying to evade you than someone who isn't. To put it simply, I guessed its you but I didn't know until you were killed. Hope that gives you closure, and of course I am amazing :D, haha.

 

Gooney  and I play this game all the time when we are in opposite teams. I try to find him with my car or missile and vice versa. It is very gratifying when you're right.

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Moi je tue tout sur mon passage xd ^^

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On a random spawn map...sure!   lol   but whatever its pointless to argue

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Those are compliments S@lty, I will soon write an iBoomBoom's guide to compliments. I will refer you to that, haha!  I am never mad when I get killed, when I yell or call people names its simply trash talking. I won't be offended if you mute me, honest.

 

 

I know where everyone is, I am amazingly magical that way :D

 

Explanation: In the round before that one you were in that bunker one of the last few of your team, taking out my teammates as they approached the door.  Between my teammates reducing bubbles and the corner of the door, I saw your feet and shot my tube. Upon your death you uttered "ofc". I know the feeling wasn't mutual but I enjoyed it, since it was someone formidable that I took out. That kill gave me a car.

 

I used as soon as I came out of spawn protection. The timer is equal for everyone, so I assure you you were very visible when you decided to run to the same spot and I tried to blow up the car on you. Stealth perk has nothing to do with this. My running and using the car in that direction was completely random, so was your spawning I think. When I tried to blow up the car, it showed me the Hardwired (aka Eavesdrop) icon. This is where psychology comes in, how people think and do things. When we have success, we try to do the same things to achieve similar results. I guessed with a 7% probability of success that it is you, since you were there last round. So knowing you can hear me, I enticed you without any certainty that is indeed you. I was hoping you would say something so I can be sure. I do it to {ESC} Bas too when he is sniping from the usual spots. I kept chasing you, because It's more of  a challenge to kill someone who is using Hardwired and trying to evade you than someone who isn't. To put it simply, I guessed its you but I didn't know until you were killed. Hope that gives you closure, and of course I am amazing :D, haha.

 

Gooney  and I play this game all the time when we are in opposite teams. I try to find him with my car or missile and vice versa. It is very gratifying when you're right.

 

 

Diabolical...

 

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On a random spawn map...sure!   lol   but whatever its pointless to argue

 

Fine, l was hacking. Stay negative!

 

Edit - 9/28 4:47AM : I will PM you @@Angel.

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Now wait a @#(**&@ minute dude!!!!!!!!!!!!   I never freaking once said those words so don't be going there.     This is titled issues and complaints, that was my fucking complaint!!!!!   If you didn't wanna hear it, then you shouldn't have made this post.   I like you dude(which is rare) but don't be going there cause I have NEVER said those words.  Thank you!!

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GOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSFFFRAAABBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! Say it with me now everyone......GOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSFFFRAAABBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! Damn!

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I have really enjoyed just watching people play :)

 

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Aha I wondered who that was sitting outside my bedroom window!

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