little_old_man Posted June 24, 2012 Member ID: 1194 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 436 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 6692 Content Per Day: 1.30 Reputation: 11691 Achievement Points: 53094 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 76 Joined: 02/27/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 16, 2023 Birthday: 04/15/1960 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Let's face it, many people are offended that we teach kids to be responsible with guns and would love it if all firearms were outlawed in the US. But like the old saying goes, "the day they outlaw guns, only outlaws will own them" is completely true. Yesterday in Phoenix a 14 year old boy was babysitting his three younger siblings when a woman rang the doorbell. The 14 year old refused to open the door because he did not know her. A few minutes later they heard a banging on the front door and the boy saw an armed man trying to kick the door in. The boy rushed the three younger kids upstairs, went to his parents room and got out his dads pistol. As the intruder burst through the front door, he saw the boy and pointed his gun at him. The kid got off a few rounds and hit the intruder, who is now in critical condition in the hospital but expected to survive. Obviously these people knew the kids were home alone and we'll probably never know what their true intentions were unless they find the woman and she admits their plans. Had the boy not reacted the way he did we would be reading about a few dead or kidnapped kids instead of a wounded intruder. This kid is a hero. http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-06-23/phoenix-teen-shoots-intruder/55782484/1 Bogleg, LtLaszlo, Pharticus and 10 others 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
GorillaXI Posted June 24, 2012 Member ID: 62 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 73 Topic Count: 480 Topics Per Day: 0.09 Content Count: 4124 Content Per Day: 0.77 Reputation: 1413 Achievement Points: 27905 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 10 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 4, 2015 Birthday: 06/16/1972 Share Posted June 24, 2012 I saw this in the news this morning. I commend the family for teaching the kid how and when it is ok to discharge a weapon. TedsofBeverlyHills, Shamu, PimpedOutPete and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
window Posted June 24, 2012 Member ID: 1189 Group: ++ COD2 Admin Followers: 21 Topic Count: 81 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2004 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 864 Achievement Points: 12788 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/26/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: Tuesday at 11:57 PM Birthday: 07/20/1966 Device: Windows Share Posted June 24, 2012 Good post LOM. Intresting read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
TheLastColdBeer Posted June 24, 2012 Member ID: 489 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 51 Topic Count: 547 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 4668 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 5849 Achievement Points: 41024 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 14 Joined: 09/22/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Sunday at 08:23 AM Birthday: 01/09/1963 Device: Kindle Fire Share Posted June 24, 2012 I agree. Grandpa & dad taught me how to shoot. Everybody I knew had guns & knew how to use them. Never gave it much thought until the Politically Correct arses came on the scene. Chicago has finally admitted to being the murder capital of the United States. Rahm admits to at least 5000 murders since 2002, and Chicago bans gun ownership. Hmmm, do you think gangs & drugs might be the problem, rather than guns alone? BigPapaDean, simplemod, TedsofBeverlyHills and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
GorillaXI Posted June 24, 2012 Member ID: 62 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 73 Topic Count: 480 Topics Per Day: 0.09 Content Count: 4124 Content Per Day: 0.77 Reputation: 1413 Achievement Points: 27905 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 10 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 4, 2015 Birthday: 06/16/1972 Share Posted June 24, 2012 I agree. Grandpa & dad taught me how to shoot. Everybody I knew had guns & knew how to use them. Never gave it much thought until the Politically Correct arses came on the scene. Chicago has finally admitted to being the murder capital of the United States. Rahm admits to at least 5000 murders since 2002, and Chicago bans gun ownership. Hmmm, do you think gangs & drugs might be the problem, rather than guns alone? I grew up in Illinois, and learned to shoot there. The first time I shot a gun was a .22 cal that my Great Grandfather made, and shot it when I was around 6 or 7. I still have it and shoot it every once in a while. And got my Hunters Safety card when I was 12. It is good to pass down to the younger generations the responsibility that we need to have when handling a firearm weather for sport or for protection. As a life member of the NRA, FU Obama baldie, window, simplemod and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Max Posted June 24, 2012 Member ID: 558 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 576 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 3785 Content Per Day: 0.71 Reputation: 1477 Achievement Points: 29048 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 10/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 18 Birthday: 06/06/1964 Device: Windows Share Posted June 24, 2012 Guns an kids is a NO NO. ChknFngr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
little_old_man Posted June 24, 2012 Member ID: 1194 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 436 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 6692 Content Per Day: 1.30 Reputation: 11691 Achievement Points: 53094 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 76 Joined: 02/27/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 16, 2023 Birthday: 04/15/1960 Author Share Posted June 24, 2012 In this case a kid with a gun saved himself and his siblings. I would call that a yes yes. baldie, TheLastColdBeer, Pharticus and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
GorillaXI Posted June 24, 2012 Member ID: 62 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 73 Topic Count: 480 Topics Per Day: 0.09 Content Count: 4124 Content Per Day: 0.77 Reputation: 1413 Achievement Points: 27905 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 10 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 4, 2015 Birthday: 06/16/1972 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Guns an kids is a NO NO. YES YES Hans, like LOM said. This saved this whole family, and this is a classic example of how proper education and guns can make a difference in the world. USAPLISKEN, Shamu, baldie and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCooBY>XI< Posted June 24, 2012 Member ID: 3233 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 15 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 334 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 40 Achievement Points: 2030 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/23/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 28, 2013 Birthday: 04/09/1967 Share Posted June 24, 2012 all 4 of my kids were raised with and learned how to defend themselves and there loved ones via the use of firearms .... I hope they never have to use this training however it gives me peace of mind that they have the ability to defend themselves and there family if need be. Glad things came out ok for this family , what a horrible experience for a young person to have to go through .... GorillaXI, BigPapaDean, USAPLISKEN and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplemod Posted June 24, 2012 Member ID: 623 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 21 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1072 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 417 Achievement Points: 7809 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/24/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 27, 2018 Birthday: 10/26/1982 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Awesome story. Sad that this kid had to do it, but great that he had it in him to do it too. BigPapaDean, Blackbart, USAPLISKEN and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PimpedOutPete Posted June 24, 2012 Member ID: 174 Group: +++ COD2 Head Admin Followers: 129 Topic Count: 387 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 14876 Content Per Day: 2.79 Reputation: 7816 Achievement Points: 91012 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 52 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 19 hours ago Birthday: 04/23/1970 Device: Windows Share Posted June 24, 2012 Teaching children how to use Firearms is not only a need, its a unfortunate necessity in America. Thankfully thats not the norm for most other countries for they do not have that level of violence. Im grateful for that.... Great story guys.. That family did the right thing....Kudos. ChknFngr, BigPapaDean and ANGU5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
window Posted June 24, 2012 Member ID: 1189 Group: ++ COD2 Admin Followers: 21 Topic Count: 81 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2004 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 864 Achievement Points: 12788 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/26/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: Tuesday at 11:57 PM Birthday: 07/20/1966 Device: Windows Share Posted June 24, 2012 It is a great story. This ''kid'' did what he thought he may never have to do, but had the training to do it. There is nothing wrong with teaching your kids the proper way to handle a firearm. I was trained as a young "kid'' myself how to respect and use a firearm. We have what we call the second admendment for a reason. We cannont surrender that. Glad that it worked out well for this YOUNG MAN. Blackbart, little_old_man, Damage_inc- and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Bogleg Posted June 24, 2012 Member ID: 907 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 96 Topic Count: 126 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2731 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 3928 Achievement Points: 26177 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 13 Joined: 12/20/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 19 Birthday: 02/10/1969 Device: Windows Share Posted June 24, 2012 Teaching children how to use Firearms is not only a need, its a unfortunate necessity in America. Thankfully thats not the norm for most other countries for they do not have that level of violence. Come on Pete. It is hardly a "necessity" in the U.S. Certainly there are some headaches that come with the great liberties American citizens enjoy, but the fact is that the vast majority of Americans go through life never having a "need" for a firearm. And I will gladly accept the risks associated with my liberty, it's worth it. BigPapaDean, Blackbart, TheLastColdBeer and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
PimpedOutPete Posted June 24, 2012 Member ID: 174 Group: +++ COD2 Head Admin Followers: 129 Topic Count: 387 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 14876 Content Per Day: 2.79 Reputation: 7816 Achievement Points: 91012 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 52 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 19 hours ago Birthday: 04/23/1970 Device: Windows Share Posted June 24, 2012 Necessity was maybe to strong of a word, but I wouldnt call it just a "headache" as well... (lol) Excepting that risk is what Americas about, but that freedom to do so is what I support, regardless. ANGU5, BigPapaDean, simplemod and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Super Max Posted June 25, 2012 Member ID: 558 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 576 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 3785 Content Per Day: 0.71 Reputation: 1477 Achievement Points: 29048 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 10/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 18 Birthday: 06/06/1964 Device: Windows Share Posted June 25, 2012 Who weapons sow will reap violence. This situation is partly caused by the gun lobby. Here we teach the children not to open the door to strangers and if necessary call the emergency number. ------------------------------- Wie wapens zaait zal geweld oogsten. Deze situatie is mede door de wapen lobby veroorzaakt. Hier leren we de kinderen ook om niet de deur open te doen voor vreemden en als het nodig is het alarmnummer te bellen. ChknFngr, Yop and Cavey 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Yop Posted June 25, 2012 Member ID: 1719 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 18 Topic Count: 71 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1982 Content Per Day: 0.40 Reputation: 518 Achievement Points: 12060 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/21/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 8 Birthday: 04/03/1981 Device: Windows Share Posted June 25, 2012 Teaching children how to use Firearms is not only a need, its a unfortunate necessity in America. Thankfully thats not the norm for most other countries for they do not have that level of violence. Come on Pete. It is hardly a "necessity" in the U.S. Certainly there are some headaches that come with the great liberties American citizens enjoy, but the fact is that the vast majority of Americans go through life never having a "need" for a firearm. And I will gladly accept the risks associated with my liberty, it's worth it. I don't understand. What is you liberties? What is your risks associated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Damage_inc- Posted June 25, 2012 Member ID: 2048 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 294 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 6689 Content Per Day: 1.37 Reputation: 4709 Achievement Points: 48999 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/15/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 29, 2023 Birthday: 05/30/1967 Device: Windows Share Posted June 25, 2012 now i guess in some countries police officers dont even carry a gun but instead a billy-club and mace.. like in Britain which blows my mind...So is it tougher to own a gun there and most criminals they come up against don't have guns??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
TheLastColdBeer Posted June 25, 2012 Member ID: 489 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 51 Topic Count: 547 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 4668 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 5849 Achievement Points: 41024 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 14 Joined: 09/22/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Sunday at 08:23 AM Birthday: 01/09/1963 Device: Kindle Fire Share Posted June 25, 2012 Who weapons sow will reap violence. This situation is partly caused by the gun lobby. Here we teach the children not to open the door to strangers and if necessary call the emergency number. ------------------------------- You teach your kids to open the doors to strangers? You do that here and you're fucked. You live in a different land, a different world. Here we have predators, and it's never good to expose your children to them. Call an emergency number? Too late. The fox is in the henhouse, and all the police will do is document the carnage. I suppose you could always have MORE children after the first batch is abducted/murdered. Wie wapens zaait zal geweld oogsten. Deze situatie is mede door de wapen lobby veroorzaakt. Hier leren we de kinderen ook om niet de deur open te doen voor vreemden en als het nodig is het alarmnummer te bellen. WolfTiS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
USAPLISKEN Posted June 25, 2012 Member ID: 1634 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 26 Topic Count: 210 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1634 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 370 Achievement Points: 12427 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/03/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 28, 2016 Birthday: 04/19/1949 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Teaching children how to use Firearms is not only a need, its a unfortunate necessity in America. Thankfully thats not the norm for most other countries for they do not have that level of violence. Im grateful for that.... Great story guys.. That family did the right thing....Kudos. "Thankfully thats not the norm for most other countries for they do not have that level of violence." you continue to amaze me DAD LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PimpedOutPete Posted June 25, 2012 Member ID: 174 Group: +++ COD2 Head Admin Followers: 129 Topic Count: 387 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 14876 Content Per Day: 2.79 Reputation: 7816 Achievement Points: 91012 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 52 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 19 hours ago Birthday: 04/23/1970 Device: Windows Share Posted June 25, 2012 Teaching children how to use Firearms is not only a need, its a unfortunate necessity in America. Thankfully thats not the norm for most other countries for they do not have that level of violence. Im grateful for that.... Great story guys.. That family did the right thing....Kudos. "Thankfully thats not the norm for most other countries for they do not have that level of violence." you continue to amaze me DAD LOL Why am I not surprised. And what's with the " Daddy" thing..... It's very weird and creppy.... Lol yikes.. ChknFngr and BigPapaDean 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Super Max Posted June 25, 2012 Member ID: 558 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 576 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 3785 Content Per Day: 0.71 Reputation: 1477 Achievement Points: 29048 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 10/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 18 Birthday: 06/06/1964 Device: Windows Share Posted June 25, 2012 (edited) ------------------------------- Wie wapens zaait zal geweld oogsten. Deze situatie is mede door de wapen lobby veroorzaakt. Hier leren we de kinderen ook om niet de deur open te doen voor vreemden en als het nodig is het alarmnummer te bellen. You teach your kids to open the doors to strangers? You do that here and you're fucked. You live in a different land, a different world. Here we have predators, and it's never good to expose your children to them. Call an emergency number? Too late. The fox is in the henhouse, and all the police will do is document the carnage. I suppose you could always have MORE children after the first batch is abducted/murdered. We dont teach our kids to open doors for strangers :/ Edited June 25, 2012 by Hans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
GhostHunter Posted June 25, 2012 Member ID: 1370 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 18 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 149 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 37 Achievement Points: 1117 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/25/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 10, 2014 Birthday: 07/12/1966 Share Posted June 25, 2012 At least since the London riots the Bobbies there realized that in some situation you gotta be armed,lol. In switzerland there are offical shooting organisation who teach the children not only to shoot but also the responsible handling of weapons. Persons are deadly. A gun don't shoot alone. In my opinion this boy has a big heart and did exactly the right thing as the man who shot the asshole who violented his daughter. In the meanwhile we got that much of this so called refuges of the arabic winter in whole Europe that the criminal rate is incredibly increasing. Many of them are young and strong. And what do the most of them do here? Robberies, Violance and raping our women. That's a fact. And the police alone can't shoot them all. So why don't help them in such cases? In Texas and Arizona there are plates to put over the housedoor:" We don't call 911" (cause you never know when they arrive,lol) means this house is armed and we shoot back! I love this, it's funny and if the family of that couragous boy would have had such a shield above there door I don't know if this housebreaker would have even dared to approach to this house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatorgirl Posted June 25, 2012 Member ID: 2986 Group: ++++ Senior Admin Followers: 206 Topic Count: 384 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 6453 Content Per Day: 1.42 Reputation: 7140 Achievement Points: 50693 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/13/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: 20 hours ago Birthday: 12/19/1967 Device: iPhone Share Posted June 25, 2012 Ok I don't usually reply to political forums, but I feel compelled to reply to this. No matter which side of this issue you are on, Angus and I feel that it is our responsibility as parents to protect our child. We own guns and Bronco2 knows how to properly handle them. He knows they are not toys, he knows not to point them at anyone, he knows that you should never touch one unless an adult is there to supervise, etc... Even if we did not own guns I would still want him to know the proper way to handle one because you never know when and where that child could be exposed to one, you never know what is in other people's houses. That's my two cents Have a great day! TedsofBeverlyHills, simplemod, Damage_inc- and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
PimpedOutPete Posted June 25, 2012 Member ID: 174 Group: +++ COD2 Head Admin Followers: 129 Topic Count: 387 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 14876 Content Per Day: 2.79 Reputation: 7816 Achievement Points: 91012 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 52 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 19 hours ago Birthday: 04/23/1970 Device: Windows Share Posted June 25, 2012 Ok I don't usually reply to political forums, but I feel compelled to reply to this. No matter which side of this issue you are on, Angus and I feel that it is our responsibility as parents to protect our child. We own guns and Bronco2 knows how to properly handle them. He knows they are not toys, he knows not to point them at anyone, he knows that you should never touch one unless an adult is there to supervise, etc... Even if we did not own guns I would still want him to know the proper way to handle one because you never know when and where that child could be exposed to one, you never know what is in other people's houses. That's my two cents Have a great day! Great post Gator... +1 BigPapaDean and GhostHunter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
BigPapaDean Posted June 25, 2012 Member ID: 1128 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 78 Topic Count: 1194 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 6513 Content Per Day: 1.26 Reputation: 4407 Achievement Points: 63330 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 5 Joined: 02/13/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: 3 hours ago Birthday: 10/21/1954 Device: Windows Share Posted June 25, 2012 The knowledge to know how to use the weapons is a very valuable tool in more than just protection. There are all kinds of reasons you may need this know how, tho most Americans will never need this knowledge . I would say its better to have the know how and not have to use it than to not know how and need to use it! Most of use may never have the situation arise for it but preparation is a big part of survival! Just saying! GhostHunter, Gatorgirl and simplemod 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
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