DEEJAYKEG Posted December 11, 2012 Member ID: 1238 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 35 Topic Count: 1207 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 6083 Content Per Day: 1.18 Reputation: 4984 Achievement Points: 50727 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 11 Joined: 03/12/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 11 Device: Kindle Fire Share Posted December 11, 2012 Yes, I know this isn't game-specific but this topic came up in game chat today and met with various reactions so the least I can do is to place the facts before you all and you can make whatever decision you consider relevant to your own machine. Suffice to say that Java is not installed on any machines here and, especially if you do anything of a financial nature with your PC (online shopping or banking, for example), you may share my opinion that it just is not worth the risk. As the article to which I am linking below says, "Time and time again we're seeing examples of cybercriminals exploiting flaws in Java to infect innocent users' computers. For instance, earlier this year we saw more than 600,000 Macs infected by the Flashback malware because of a Java security flaw. In fact, it has become increasingly common to see malware authors exploiting vulnerabilities in Java - as it is so commonly installed, and has been frequently found to be lacking when it comes to security. Cybercriminals also love Java because it is multi-platform - capable of running on computers regardless of whether they are running Windows, Mac OS X or Linux. As a result it's not unusual for us to see malicious hackers use Java as an integral part of their attack before serving up an OS-specific payload." Full article at: http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2012/08/30/how-turn-off-java-browser/ (Note: Java is not the same as Javascript.) Though I don't use Sophos software, the Naked Security blog is excellent for remaining informed about current threats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
KaptCrunch Posted December 11, 2012 Member ID: 389 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 45 Topic Count: 294 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4452 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 3614 Achievement Points: 36393 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 39 Joined: 09/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 2 hours ago Birthday: 01/01/1970 Device: Windows Share Posted December 11, 2012 if using Java and don't leave older versions on drive, remove them only keeping current on drive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sonovabich Posted December 11, 2012 Member ID: 82 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1534 Topics Per Day: 0.29 Content Count: 5020 Content Per Day: 0.94 Reputation: 5171 Achievement Points: 131490 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 116 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Monday at 10:10 AM Device: Windows Share Posted December 11, 2012 I need Java to use one of my admin tools, Modern Rcon won't work without it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavey Posted December 11, 2012 Member ID: 92 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 42 Topic Count: 97 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2241 Content Per Day: 0.42 Reputation: 606 Achievement Points: 13358 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 11, 2020 Birthday: 06/09/1977 Share Posted December 11, 2012 DJ you can't use Sophos software if you wanted to. They only deal with Businesses, not home users. When the company I work for merged with 2 other companies, I was tasked with the project to harmonise our Group wide endpoint security. After viewing many vendors, Sophos came out on top, and we have been using their Enterprise solution since 2009, and I'm very please, as it includes AV, firewall, app control, data control, device control, web control, patch management and full disk encryption. Their management console kicks ass compared to the others. DEEJAYKEG 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labob Posted December 11, 2012 Member ID: 42 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 50 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 8260 Content Per Day: 1.55 Reputation: 5968 Achievement Points: 53575 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 12 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 13 hours ago Birthday: 01/30/1959 Device: Windows Share Posted December 11, 2012 You may also go start control panel click the java button and it should have on the front page " Keep tempory files on my computer. " make sure it is deselected, not enabled, unchecked. It you prefere to have it on its also where you go to delete said shit files button says Delete files click it often and hard. Thank you for the vent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
CobraBites Posted December 12, 2012 Member ID: 2313 Group: Fallen Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 330 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 4924 Content Per Day: 1.03 Reputation: 3034 Achievement Points: 33897 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 4 Joined: 03/19/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 2, 2017 Birthday: 05/26/1974 Share Posted December 12, 2012 i would say 90 percent of websites requires you to have java ...just saying ...and ive never had an issue..my system stays clean.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Posted December 12, 2012 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 31 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 2.08 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 30, 2023 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Share Posted December 12, 2012 For websites, its javascript. But I dont think that actually needs java itself installed. DEEJAYKEG 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
J3st3r Posted December 12, 2012 Member ID: 2162 Group: ++ COD4 Admin Followers: 153 Topic Count: 152 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 5083 Content Per Day: 1.05 Reputation: 5009 Achievement Points: 44628 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 22 Joined: 01/25/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: 21 hours ago Birthday: 02/26/1972 Device: Windows Share Posted December 12, 2012 (edited) I need Java to use one of my admin tools, Modern Rcon won't work without it. Rcon is a pain in the ass isn't it. I've admined several BF1942/DC servers and BF2 servers back in the day.Don't know if they've improved it's functionality but I've always hated it just because it is Java based. BF2RA is a real PITA I do remember that.C&C admin tools are not to bad. Edited December 12, 2012 by Pvt.Death Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
DEEJAYKEG Posted December 12, 2012 Member ID: 1238 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 35 Topic Count: 1207 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 6083 Content Per Day: 1.18 Reputation: 4984 Achievement Points: 50727 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 11 Joined: 03/12/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 11 Device: Kindle Fire Author Share Posted December 12, 2012 For those that need Java (a minority, I suggest), the tip about keeping a separate browser with it enabled should reduce the risk. Web sites that run scripts use Javascript not Java, as Sammy says correctly (you do not need Java to run Javascript). The web site that members are likely to visit that does use it is System Requirement Labs' "Can You Run It" - one can still make use of the site even if the tool that would run on your machine does not. You only need to know the specs of your PC to make sense of the information with which it provides you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Guybrush Posted December 12, 2012 Member ID: 4074 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 5 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 299 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 153 Achievement Points: 2072 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/02/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 18, 2014 Birthday: 07/27/1986 Share Posted December 12, 2012 (edited) Some of you may be able to get by with disabling it, but if you're a current member of the military, you need Java to gain access to secure websites like DTS, iPerms, etc. If you aren't in the military, you may also find that some of your web services don't work without Java. All the same you wouldn't figure that out until you disable it. The issue is vulnerability. Java has been around for a long time. And for as long as I can remember, there have always been issues. The same went for the flash technology, especially during its heyday. Now not so much because of how little it's being used. But back in the day, the permissions available to the local file enabled it to do just about whatever it wanted. The best way to protect yourself from attacks is obviously 1) keep your antivirus definitions up to date, 2) don't click on links if you don't know where they go, and 3) Don't allow Java applets access to your computer (Java, along with flash, are required to gain user approval for any local action, that means it will ASK you for permission.) unless you're absolutely trusting of its source. Edited December 12, 2012 by flashadvocate Cavey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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