DanWelsh86 Posted September 10, 2015 Member ID: 20943 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 50 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 24 Achievement Points: 321 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/03/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 24, 2019 Birthday: 05/28/1986 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Like mentioned, the solution is simple and been mentioned. Once they are at full compliment, and the balance has been affected by it then just split them. That's not a hackusation issue, it's a general team balance for the benefit of everyone on the server. Mossticles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Raven7 Posted September 11, 2015 Member ID: 20874 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 3 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 43 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 32 Achievement Points: 353 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/08/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: September 17, 2016 Birthday: 03/16/1982 Share Posted September 11, 2015 I don't agree with the splitting up at all as mentioned before! Imagine you have 2 friends you like playing with and you just happen to be good. How fun would it be that some idiot keeps splitting you up, just because he sucks and can't play the game. Sorry to say but that aint there fault.i've said it before, we got the numbers and some decent players to do some squadwork but maybe that means some people finally have to start working together, afterall BF4 is supposed to be a game where teamwork is promoted. And if you want to keep playing solo, fine that's your choice but don't come crying that you can't deal with a squad of friends that do play together then. I feel they have the right to play together if they want to, just like us. And like Jay said before don't forget it's these sort of players that made our server. JAYsus_NL, kadaverke, Nisty* and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellKid Posted September 11, 2015 Member ID: 2515 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 99 Topic Count: 129 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1304 Content Per Day: 0.28 Reputation: 1672 Achievement Points: 13640 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 05/21/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: Tuesday at 10:31 AM Birthday: 01/15/1964 Device: Windows Share Posted September 11, 2015 Stop ya whining!! their stats aren't that great it's just you guys suck -cracken- , JAYsus_NL and Sonovabich 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
HONG_KONG_SHOEY Posted September 11, 2015 Member ID: 21060 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 1 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 107 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 95 Achievement Points: 739 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/26/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 21, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2015 I've got a pet kangaroo called Kevin . HellKid, JAYsus_NL and EDD THE DUCK 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanWelsh86 Posted September 11, 2015 Member ID: 20943 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 50 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 24 Achievement Points: 321 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/03/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 24, 2019 Birthday: 05/28/1986 Share Posted September 11, 2015 I don't agree with the splitting up at all as mentioned before! Imagine you have 2 friends you like playing with and you just happen to be good. How fun would it be that some idiot keeps splitting you up, just because he sucks and can't play the game. Sorry to say but that aint there fault. i've said it before, we got the numbers and some decent players to do some squadwork but maybe that means some people finally have to start working together, afterall BF4 is supposed to be a game where teamwork is promoted. And if you want to keep playing solo, fine that's your choice but don't come crying that you can't deal with a squad of friends that do play together then. I feel they have the right to play together if they want to, just like us. And like Jay said before don't forget it's these sort of players that made our server. It's not a personal issue, however it's for the benefit of everyone in the server. If normal players are kicking off over it, and the balance is weighted too much because of them, then I feel it would be reasonable. Remember the servers aren't there to accomodate Zonk, they're for everyone. I have to admit, it gets tiring when they're on sometimes and many players are complaining about it. Mossticles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Raven7 Posted September 11, 2015 Member ID: 20874 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 3 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 43 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 32 Achievement Points: 353 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/08/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: September 17, 2016 Birthday: 03/16/1982 Share Posted September 11, 2015 "Remember the servers aren't there to accomodate Zonk, they're for everyone." exactly everyone so including them, i don't see a lot of public players complaining about them tbh...only always the same few xi members Also this post was created because of an Xi member (who does have the option to take them with squadplay as said before) not because of public players, when we would have a lot of those (public players) complaining i would understand tbh, however it aint the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanWelsh86 Posted September 11, 2015 Member ID: 20943 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 50 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 24 Achievement Points: 321 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/03/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 24, 2019 Birthday: 05/28/1986 Share Posted September 11, 2015 "Remember the servers aren't there to accomodate Zonk, they're for everyone." exactly everyone so including them, i don't see a lot of public players complaining about them tbh...only always the same few xi members Also this post was created because of an Xi member (who does have the option to take them with squadplay as said before) not because of public players, when we would have a lot of those (public players) complaining i would understand tbh, however it aint the case I can't agree with that, i've seen plenty of people complaining. Yes the server is for them, but for everyone else also. Sometimes it becomes the Zonk show and it takes the piss. I'm not saying ban them, but if it gets too much then just do some balancing. They should be able to see the logic in that. El Presidente and Mossticles 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
El Presidente Posted September 11, 2015 Member ID: 2137 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 43 Topic Count: 44 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 514 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 320 Achievement Points: 3993 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/18/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: Tuesday at 12:53 PM Birthday: 05/20/1964 Device: Windows Share Posted September 11, 2015 Raven7 put i don't see a lot of public players complaining about them zonk that is i do and its not just Xi players but i think we have sorted this out for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
JAYsus_NL Posted September 11, 2015 Member ID: 20692 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 35 Topic Count: 217 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 1943 Content Per Day: 0.51 Reputation: 2009 Achievement Points: 16789 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/16/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: Sunday at 06:56 PM Birthday: 01/13/1980 Device: Windows Share Posted September 11, 2015 Raven7 put i don't see a lot of public players complaining about them zonk that is i do and its not just Xi players but i think we have sorted this out for now. To be honest..... It are always the same people complaining. Most of them are the same 3 or 4 XI and XI teamspeak regulars. The now and then other player complaining is very rare. People know they are there and accept them. Always all of the times one of the XI members lights the fire and after that the shit hits the fan....... Barron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Barron Posted September 11, 2015 Member ID: 20987 Group: +++ Insurgency Head Admin Followers: 21 Topic Count: 190 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1794 Content Per Day: 0.49 Reputation: 1775 Achievement Points: 14304 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/21/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 12 Birthday: 01/09/1996 Device: Windows Share Posted September 11, 2015 To be honest..... It are always the same people complaining. Most of them are the same 3 or 4 XI and XI teamspeak regulars. The now and then other player complaining is very rare. People know they are there and accept them. Always all of the times one of the XI members lights the fire and after that the shit hits the fan....... That literally sums the whole situation up the last few months. Just accept that they are good players and work well in a squad. A majority of people complaining dont like to play tactically like zonk and thats the issue. It's almost like people are jealous just cause they are dominating the scoreboards I dont think I have went a day in the last 4-5 months without hearing the word zonk in TS its a joke at this stage Now can we just move on and forget about this whole topic? JAYsus_NL, Scoarch and Sgt_Hindsight 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
JAYsus_NL Posted September 11, 2015 Member ID: 20692 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 35 Topic Count: 217 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 1943 Content Per Day: 0.51 Reputation: 2009 Achievement Points: 16789 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/16/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: Sunday at 06:56 PM Birthday: 01/13/1980 Device: Windows Share Posted September 11, 2015 Now can we just move on and forget about this whole topic? Amen to that...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Oneill Posted September 11, 2015 Member ID: 20884 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 2 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 274 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 288 Achievement Points: 1812 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/12/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 6, 2017 Birthday: 06/10/1989 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Seriously? I dont see why this is a debate. They are good not great players and any player that refuses to play in the server that they are in are not the kinds of people you want in XI anyways. The regulars that play in the server are the ones that shape it, XI shoudl not have to intervene or kick anyone unless they are cheating or causing a scene. Removing Zonk players would not help the server at all and may in fact hurt it. JAYsus_NL, Raven7 and huskeryu 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAYsus_NL Posted September 11, 2015 Member ID: 20692 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 35 Topic Count: 217 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 1943 Content Per Day: 0.51 Reputation: 2009 Achievement Points: 16789 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/16/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: Sunday at 06:56 PM Birthday: 01/13/1980 Device: Windows Share Posted September 11, 2015 (edited) Might i by the way remind people that when this server was doing bad and we had to change it to proper hardcore, the ZONK guys came in and brought a bunch of people in to help us start and populate the server? Like HOGS guys for instance..... Edited September 11, 2015 by Jay80_NL Nisty*, Scoarch, Sonovabich and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
kadaverke Posted September 12, 2015 Member ID: 22503 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 3 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 173 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 212 Achievement Points: 1270 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/02/15 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 27, 2022 Birthday: 11/14/1988 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Stop ya whining!! their stats aren't that great it's just you guys suck Damn, it is about time i find some time and play bf4 again and claim the number one spot once again JimpXI, Barron, HellKid and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
hxtr Posted September 12, 2015 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.17 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129713 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Share Posted September 12, 2015 I used to hate Zonk guys, however playing against them has made me a better player. Yes it is easy to play against lower skilled people but that does not improve my game. We should play more tactically in our Teamspeaks as well. I noticed we now have tactical channels that I haven't seen used. Like Chess.. you have to learn to lose before you can learn to win. And you must play higher skilled players than you to get better. JAYsus_NL, EDD THE DUCK, HellKid and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goesje Posted September 21, 2015 Member ID: 22843 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 264 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 223 Achievement Points: 1722 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/11/15 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 6, 2017 Birthday: 11/20/1988 Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) Like Chess.. you have to learn to lose before you can learn to win. And you must play higher skilled players than you to get better. There´s a truth in that. But if ppl only get pissed when shot or hunted by a squad, how can you ever ´level up´? P.s: When are we done discussing ´a random clan on a public server´, altough it´s XI´ Edited September 21, 2015 by Goesje Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Mossticles Posted September 22, 2015 Member ID: 21410 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 88 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 77 Achievement Points: 613 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/07/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 18, 2023 Birthday: 04/14/1972 Device: Windows Share Posted September 22, 2015 It's not a personal issue, however it's for the benefit of everyone in the server. If normal players are kicking off over it, and the balance is weighted too much because of them, then I feel it would be reasonable. Remember the servers aren't there to accomodate Zonk, they're for everyone. I have to admit, it gets tiring when they're on sometimes and many players are complaining about it. Exactly. I don't mind Zonks being on the server. But if the teams getting unbalanced because some clan (Zonk or others) is piling up on one side, then there need to be some balancing - meaning splitting them up, as Jay has stated in the beginning of this thread a long time ago. We want to provide a great gaming experience for everyone. One part of archieving this is to keep the teams balanced. It may hurt a few, but it benefits everyone else. This thread is going in circles anyway. The Zonks are aware of our concerns and they know that they might get balanced - as every other clan would btw. In my opinion it has been dealt with this issure accordingly by the server admins and there shouldn't be anything left to discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
JAYsus_NL Posted September 22, 2015 Member ID: 20692 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 35 Topic Count: 217 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 1943 Content Per Day: 0.51 Reputation: 2009 Achievement Points: 16789 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/16/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: Sunday at 06:56 PM Birthday: 01/13/1980 Device: Windows Share Posted September 22, 2015 I think it`s what Moss says; Anything has been said. The guys keep playing on our server. If they notice comments are getting out of hand, they will separate themselfs over the two teams...... So, basically, everybody`s happy now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Goesje Posted September 27, 2015 Member ID: 22843 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 264 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 223 Achievement Points: 1722 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/11/15 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 6, 2017 Birthday: 11/20/1988 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Happy? Never on a sundaynight, back to work soon JAYsus_NL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Power! Posted October 2, 2015 Member ID: 3543 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 24 Topic Count: 87 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 905 Content Per Day: 0.21 Reputation: 664 Achievement Points: 9085 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/15/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 8 Birthday: 07/09/1981 Device: Windows Share Posted October 2, 2015 FU ZONK + Raven7 Fu El Presidente, Bor2013 and HONG_KONG_SHOEY 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
pand3m0nium Posted October 2, 2015 Member ID: 20700 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 2 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 17 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 23 Achievement Points: 148 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/19/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: September 27, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2015 I don't mind Zonk. And since they are in the same server as I am a lot, I can say this about them: They don't hack. I am sure of that. Not even close. They have some good FPS players in their clan. In their little niche, they are quiet good. The thing is, when they need to start PTFO-ing, they always lose. If some of their team is not quite on the ball, for instance... Their K/D is still up high though... But, if I want a high K/D ratio, I'd go and play "Solitaire", or "Heart-stone" . The BF series is about getting the objectives and winning the game, NOT about who has got the best K/D; that's the console twitch oriented COD-titles... JAYsus_NL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Presidente Posted October 3, 2015 Member ID: 2137 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 43 Topic Count: 44 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 514 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 320 Achievement Points: 3993 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/18/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: Tuesday at 12:53 PM Birthday: 05/20/1964 Device: Windows Share Posted October 3, 2015 (edited) Shame other players only see themselfs with the best kill/death and if ur not as good as them you are a noob or you have NO SKILL Skill is like driving a car well years off practice, not push a mouse about or pushing a button fora hour on your PC not real at all. The zones are ok I just find it hard to speak to them or get a joke going with them. Edited October 3, 2015 by elmerfud papithegun, JAYsus_NL and Sonovabich 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Goesje Posted October 7, 2015 Member ID: 22843 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 264 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 223 Achievement Points: 1722 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/11/15 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 6, 2017 Birthday: 11/20/1988 Share Posted October 7, 2015 ... or get a joke going with them.... Ze are German... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Mossticles Posted October 13, 2015 Member ID: 21410 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 88 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 77 Achievement Points: 613 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/07/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 18, 2023 Birthday: 04/14/1972 Device: Windows Share Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) I stopped playing today. No use and no fun against 5 Zonks in the other team. Tried to reason with them and said they could split up themselfes, but they told me to fuck off. They really should be split up automatically again. It only "hurts" the Zonks, and everybody else on our server benefits, Edited October 13, 2015 by M0stlyHarmless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
JAYsus_NL Posted October 13, 2015 Member ID: 20692 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 35 Topic Count: 217 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 1943 Content Per Day: 0.51 Reputation: 2009 Achievement Points: 16789 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/16/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: Sunday at 06:56 PM Birthday: 01/13/1980 Device: Windows Share Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) I stopped playing today. No use and no fun against 5 Zonks in the other team. Tried to reason with them and said they could split up themselfes, but they told me to fuck off. They really should be split up automatically again. It only "hurts" the Zonks, and everybody else on our server benefits, Sorry to hear that Moss.... I really cant do anything about it. They dont do anything wrong. They play as a squad, we can do that aswell. We have enough players that want to play tactical. That being said; For you... Next time ill split them up to see what happends, but i will then defenatly split up an XI squad aswell if i notice that they are dominating a map. Last couple of days i had a lot of complaints about teambalance, because XI playing in a squad dominated the round......... Edited October 13, 2015 by Jay80_NL kadaverke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
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