RobMc Posted June 12, 2018 Member ID: 25355 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 31 Topic Count: 257 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 5785 Content Per Day: 2.17 Reputation: 9113 Achievement Points: 63247 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 132 Joined: 12/14/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 10 Birthday: 01/05/1954 Device: Windows Share Posted June 12, 2018 Just read personalfouls post on fire in Colorado and yes Athena it truly is sad as it takes years to recover. I seem to read this every year, moreso the States than Canada and other places like Australia, everywhere has them at times. Do you not have firebreaks?? designed to protect the fire spreading, I live near a very large forest (Keilder) and the breaks are visible and maintained, costs plenty but saves a lot. California seems to have loads of these every year, I realise that the scale of things in some countries are different to ours, but when you look at damage and destruction it surely must be worthwhile? Need a clever idiot to invent a fire retardent spray to use from the air to pre treat corridors to slow down spread, or do we have that, any firefighters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labob Posted June 12, 2018 Member ID: 42 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 50 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 8258 Content Per Day: 1.55 Reputation: 5964 Achievement Points: 53556 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 12 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 9 hours ago Birthday: 01/30/1959 Device: Windows Share Posted June 12, 2018 Its more to do with the terrain. A lot of our fires in Canada are in places where not many people live so there is not much they can do. Another one is the mountains make it very hard to combat fires. Plus in the mountains with fire get the wind going hard. Sounds like a freight train roaring past you. Then the last one and its a big one its so dry due to lack of rain over several years the under brush is just primed for fire and all of it together allows the fire jump over firebreaks with ease. RobMc and Hunter1948 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
RobMc Posted June 12, 2018 Member ID: 25355 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 31 Topic Count: 257 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 5785 Content Per Day: 2.17 Reputation: 9113 Achievement Points: 63247 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 132 Joined: 12/14/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 10 Birthday: 01/05/1954 Device: Windows Author Share Posted June 12, 2018 (edited) Oh so there are firebreaks? that is what puzzled me with all these fires in populated areas like California. Great answer I understand now, we forget over here about just how large it is, forgot about mountains. Edited June 12, 2018 by RobMc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labob Posted June 12, 2018 Member ID: 42 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 50 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 8258 Content Per Day: 1.55 Reputation: 5964 Achievement Points: 53556 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 12 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 9 hours ago Birthday: 01/30/1959 Device: Windows Share Posted June 12, 2018 here's another one. This is caused by the mountain pine beetle. All those dead pine trees have to burn to get a new forest to start growing. These are wild fires when they get going. That ones from B.C. AngerIssues and RobMc 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Smeggie Posted June 12, 2018 Member ID: 24118 Group: + COD4 Moderator Followers: 24 Topic Count: 54 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1070 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 2007 Achievement Points: 9940 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 11 Joined: 02/19/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: 9 hours ago Birthday: 01/23/1962 Device: Android Share Posted June 12, 2018 California is also special because of their "Santa Ana Winds" which are downslope winds that start very strong and are very dry. They originate inland in the great basin area and increase in strength / velocity as they traverse the mountains and valleys towards the coast. They reach between 50-70 mph (80-112 kph) at times. No fire break will keep wildfires at bay with these types of winds. RobMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
RobMc Posted June 12, 2018 Member ID: 25355 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 31 Topic Count: 257 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 5785 Content Per Day: 2.17 Reputation: 9113 Achievement Points: 63247 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 132 Joined: 12/14/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 10 Birthday: 01/05/1954 Device: Windows Author Share Posted June 12, 2018 Yes what I forgot was our forests are managed and yours are natural, that pine beetle thing looks terrible, I'm beginning to understand now why it's so hard to put them out which is a pity because of the destruction to these beautiful habitats. Are most of them natural or started by man?? or can you not tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labob Posted June 12, 2018 Member ID: 42 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 50 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 8258 Content Per Day: 1.55 Reputation: 5964 Achievement Points: 53556 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 12 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 9 hours ago Birthday: 01/30/1959 Device: Windows Share Posted June 12, 2018 Actually they say the issue with the beetle is global warming. Usually the winters get cold enough to cut the beetles back but they had a few rather warm winters and the beetle population grew fast. As for what fires are man made I would guess, the more away from the populated areas its lighting but the ones that cause all the house fires are mostly man made. Kinda sad eh. Things like sparks off train wheels cigarettes tossed out of windows careless fires while camping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
EastCoast50 Posted June 13, 2018 Member ID: 25026 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 18 Topic Count: 109 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 530 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 1027 Achievement Points: 7121 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 9 Joined: 09/13/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: 9 hours ago Device: Windows Share Posted June 13, 2018 I live in the mountains and have been a volunteer firefighter for many years. There are established firebreaks and roads for fire crews to access the hot zone in SOME places here, but in many places there are none. However, once/if it crosses over it can be a nightmare to control at times. Weather doesn't help as winds are generally greater at higher altitudes at times. Usually, man-made firebreaks are created DURING the wildland fire. Also, lots of dead trees are cut down to avoid spreading the fire. RobMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
7Toes Posted June 14, 2018 Member ID: 87 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 57 Topic Count: 98 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3789 Content Per Day: 0.71 Reputation: 3589 Achievement Points: 27249 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 18, 2022 Birthday: 04/02/1871 Share Posted June 14, 2018 fire is a natural effect in forest but since we have stopped the natural fires we get these out of control monsters.fire is natures ways to clean and let new growth occur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
RobMc Posted June 14, 2018 Member ID: 25355 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 31 Topic Count: 257 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 5785 Content Per Day: 2.17 Reputation: 9113 Achievement Points: 63247 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 132 Joined: 12/14/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 10 Birthday: 01/05/1954 Device: Windows Author Share Posted June 14, 2018 fire is natures ways to clean and let new growth occur Ouch, I'm suing you toes, just tried that on my head ? still bald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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