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WTF is wrong with the government and authorities over there.

Homeless people have no money and they get fined for asking for help? Put in jail for being poor?

That is just so wrong on so many moral levels.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/may/20/homeless-people-fined-imprisoned-pspo-england-wales?CMP=share_btn_fb

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52 minutes ago, Angelz said:

WTF is wrong with the government and authorities over there.

Homeless people have no money and they get fined for asking for help? Put in jail for being poor?

That is just so wrong on so many moral levels.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/may/20/homeless-people-fined-imprisoned-pspo-england-wales?CMP=share_btn_fb

Oh dear, although some of this is true it is only partly true, may I also point out that this is also in the premier left wing socialist newspaper, it is being used as a weapon. I should also say that this is not only our country, indeed my youngest recently returned from a year in Toronto and he was amazed how many homeless were on the streets there.

That said we indeed have homeless people, which is a travesty when we feed and house illegal immigrants ( back on this again, but true) and fail our own. However with a lot of these it is by choice, either addicts, professional beggars (some of whom return home at night) or other reasons. However we have many many things in place to prevent this, some state run and some voluntary. 

Not being a drug user (and I don't mean marijuana, although I don't use that either) I did not know until recently how bad the situation was, nor how many resources are used on these people, unfortunately I experienced it first hand. This is the scourge of the world at the moment, it not only wrecks individuals but is wrecking countries and millions of ordinary people suffer.

This problem was there when I was young, and will be there when I die, but it has definitely got worse and with some is becoming the norm. A spin off is the violence, burglaries etc etc that comes from these people.

Now I sat there ,and listened to people tripping over themselves to house these guys, and to a man they all refused and prefered to go back to rough living, which they did. I had the chance to talk to two of them in depth, and it was sad to see that they actually wanted to live that way, they may even be dead by now.

This is not just the UK my dear, it is the Western World, even China and Russia suffer, this will not go away, housing is a big problem, but not the only one. Back on bloody politics eh?

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Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see

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1 hour ago, RobMc said:

Oh dear, although some of this is true it is only partly true, may I also point out that this is also in the premier left wing socialist newspaper, it is being used as a weapon. I should also say that this is not only our country, indeed my youngest recently returned from a year in Toronto and he was amazed how many homeless were on the streets there.

That said we indeed have homeless people, which is a travesty when we feed and house illegal immigrants ( back on this again, but true) and fail our own. However with a lot of these it is by choice, either addicts, professional beggars (some of whom return home at night) or other reasons. However we have many many things in place to prevent this, some state run and some voluntary. 

Not being a drug user (and I don't mean marijuana, although I don't use that either) I did not know until recently how bad the situation was, nor how many resources are used on these people, unfortunately I experienced it first hand. This is the scourge of the world at the moment, it not only wrecks individuals but is wrecking countries and millions of ordinary people suffer.

This problem was there when I was young, and will be there when I die, but it has definitely got worse and with some is becoming the norm. A spin off is the violence, burglaries etc etc that comes from these people.

Now I sat there ,and listened to people tripping over themselves to house these guys, and to a man they all refused and prefered to go back to rough living, which they did. I had the chance to talk to two of them in depth, and it was sad to see that they actually wanted to live that way, they may even be dead by now.

This is not just the UK my dear, it is the Western World, even China and Russia suffer, this will not go away, housing is a big problem, but not the only one. Back on bloody politics eh?

Rob, it’s fucking Canada! Of course our homeless and going to huddle and collect in the large cities. Your not going to see some poor homeless bastard huddling in Leader, Saskatchewan... lol 

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@RobMc It is not only Toronto there are tons of homeless people in every province /city in Canada. Every country of the world.  I have never heard of a homeless person being fined or put in jail for asking for help no matter the reason. That is just insane to me.

A few months ago I put a back pack together for a homeless man my son told me about. We did not see him for a while till last week. My son gave him the back pack and he was shocked and thanked my son a lot. My son asked him if he wanted to go get a meal and the dude said he could not because he had kids he needed to feed. He asked my son if he could buy groceries (canned/packaged stuff) for his kids in exchange for the meal money and my son said yes. Happy ending to that story.

I have never looked down to anyone no matter what their situation is. I see everyone as human beings. If they need help I will try to help anyone as much as I can.

 

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2 minutes ago, PimpedOutPete said:

Rob, it’s fucking Canada! Of course our homeless and going to huddle and collect in the large cities. Your not going to see some poor homeless bastard huddling in Leader, Saskatchewan... lol 

Ha of course, although if you want to live rough what a great country to do it in, what I (and Spin) are saying is don't absolutely believe what you read.

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11 minutes ago, PimpedOutPete said:

 

 

9 minutes ago, Angelz said:

@RobMc It is not only Toronto there are tons of homeless people in every province /city in Canada. Every country of the world.  I have never heard of a homeless person being fined or put in jail for asking for help no matter the reason. That is just insane to me.

A few months ago I put a back pack together for a homeless man my son told me about. We did not see him for a while till last week. My son gave him the back pack and he was shocked and thanked my son a lot. My son asked him if he wanted to go get a meal and the dude said he could not because he had kids he needed to feed. He asked my son if he could buy groceries (canned/packaged stuff) for his kids in exchange for the meal money and my son said yes. Happy ending to that story.

I have never looked down to anyone no matter what their situation is. I see everyone as human beings. If they need help I will try to help anyone as much as I can.

 

Angelz I already know how kind you are, but these people are not being jailed for being homeless, they are being jailed for drug taking in public, violent begging, stealing etc etc would you like to go shopping with your kids and be mobbed by them?

The misinformation, i.e. the way it is written has obviously worked, roll on world war three

We tolerate buskers, individual beggars, and have always had what you call hobos and we call tramps, no problem. Organised begging, steaming, drug taking in public places, etc etc big problem

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Go to Cali if you want to live rough, the libtards there give you needles to support your habits, all the government benefits you want as well as allow you to shit on the streets

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11 minutes ago, RobMc said:

 

Angelz I already know how kind you are, but these people are not being jailed for being homeless, they are being jailed for drug taking in public, violent begging, stealing etc etc would you like to go shopping with your kids and be mobbed by them?

The misinformation, i.e. the way it is written has obviously worked, roll on world war three

We tolerate buskers, individual beggars, and have always had what you call hobos and we call tramps, no problem. Organised begging, steaming, drug taking in public places, etc etc big problem

We have those homeless people here too. We do not have ones that mob people at least I have not come across that.  I can tell those that are drug users and alcoholics and I will offer to get them a meal but will not give them money.

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The new thing here is, Sir i can clean your tires and windows while you're shopping...

 

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That's the old joke, four boys say can we look after your car while you're gone?, no thanks its got an alarm you reply, has it got a fire extinguisher?:lol:

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1 hour ago, RobMc said:

Ha of course, although if you want to live rough what a great country to do it in, what I (and Spin) are saying is don't absolutely believe what you read.

I agree my friend. :)

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