How to deal with Suicide

[YACCster]

Howdy folks,

Had a friend that tried to commit suicide on Thanksgiving by overdosing on prescription medication.  He immediately regretted it and called 911.  Saw them over the weekend and they are ok at this point.

Question is, anyone deal with this before?  And how to properly deal with it going forward.  Anyone have any advice, it would be appreciated.

-YACC

 

[deerejon]

Thats really sad.... I sent a PM.

[Crack]

love bro!  i hope all is well! this is sad news..

[RobMc]

1 hour ago, YACCster said:

Howdy folks,

Had a friend that tried to commit suicide on Thanksgiving by overdosing on prescription medication.  He immediately regretted it and called 911.  Saw them over the weekend and they are ok at this point.

Question is, anyone deal with this before?  And how to properly deal with it going forward.  Anyone have any advice, it would be appreciated.

-YACC

 

I have dealt with 3 suicides, 2 attemped and one actual, and my son is highly qualified in this and I have talked to him about it, although complex there are two definite main reasons in my limited experience.

1/. Attempted where they don't really mean it and are looking for compassion or help

2/. The worst - silent ones who simply do it, no talking and no warning

in 1/. (your friends) he has had a  tragedy, or is clinically depressed (they talk about a black hole of despair), obviously he needs professional help but you can help by understanding and being compassionate, keep an eye out as often they repeat. Do not leave him alone at first as it is a vicious spiral, I still do not understand how they get there but it is very very hard to recover, do your best but don't feel remorse yourself.

[Angelz]

I had a friend in grade 10 that came to school and called me into the bathroom. She broke down and told me she had taken a bunch of pills because she no longer wanted to live. She told me her dad was coming into her bedroom at night since she was 5 years old. I told her I was going to get help for her. I told her I needed to tell the guidance councillor  what she told me. I made sure to make her feel loved. I told her everything was going to be ok. The guidance councillar rushed her to the hospital. Shortly afterwards her father was arrested. He got 10 years in jail. She got professional help and it took almost 10 years for her to get over it. She is now happily married with 2 kids.

[PainKiller]

It's never easy to deal with something like this. I agree with Rob here mate. I do. There are different kinds of people and your approach must always be different. The first step is being understanding. Sometimes the best thing you can ever do is listen. That helps so much. Then of course, you remind them to look at what IS in their life. What they HAVE got. They're still breathing, right? That's gotta count for something. They have you, family, people who do love them. There's always an underlying reason for someone to feel like they want to end it all and I found that removing yourself from root problem that is causing them to have gotten to this is a massive help.

I will open up here. I was abused for almost all my life. It was horrible. I was verbally, mentally and emotionally abused in my own home. It only stopped a couple of years ago when I moved out. I had my confidence and my self-esteem and self worth completely and utterly ripped out of me. I was extremely depressed and dealing with severe anxiety disorder. I was scared to be in my own home. Or anywhere. I wanted to end it. It got to the point where I had written down my final goodbyes to people and planned everything. I was seriously debating doing it. I was on my chair ready to get up, go to the bridge near mine and jump. But I stopped myself, I couldn't do it. I had something to give me strength. My mom. I was also too scared!

But what I had done was see a therapist. It was tough at first finding the right help but I soon found someone to help me. I was with them for two years and tell you what mate, my life has turned around. I moved out of my parents, I went to University and I fell in love. I found things to hold on to, things to keep me going. At my lowest I saw no hope, none at all. But after just having someone to listen to me, to hear me out, I felt so much better. We worked slowly but over time I had gotten a lot better. Found the root cause of my problems and cut that out. Never been better. Of course, I can get really low at some points and I am still on medication but I am so much better that I was a few years ago. To you friend, I don't mind you sharing what I have told you because being suicidal myself, I know what it is like. I have condensed my events down here so some parts are missing but the gist of it is there.
 

I owe everything to my mom, my girlfriend, my therapist and the idiots on CoD2 and 4 who were there to make me laugh and support me and help me in my tough times. It's not the number of people you have around you but the quality of the people.

[PainKiller]

You think we can also get this moved to the clan members section? I don't think this topic is overly acceptable on the public page - its a very sensitive topic

Edited November 26, 2018 by PainKiller

[Lovyan]

Isnt there any 800Suicide hotlines in your area? And I think this topic is fine, cause sometimes you need to talk about the tough decisions

[hxtr]

2 hours ago, YACCster said:

Howdy folks,

Had a friend that tried to commit suicide on Thanksgiving by overdosing on prescription medication.  He immediately regretted it and called 911.  Saw them over the weekend and they are ok at this point.

Question is, anyone deal with this before?  And how to properly deal with it going forward.  Anyone have any advice, it would be appreciated.

-YACC

 

YACCster I when thru that twice in my life. Died once.. bastards brought me back. I can tell you when the meds started kicking in I regretting it as well.. both times.

That is the problem. I was on meds both times and MAN THAT SHIT MADE IT WORSE!

Tell your friend get the fuck off fucking meds and find a new solution even pot. I have not been suicidal like that ever since. I blame the medication they give you to try and fix the problem. Everything got worse in my life when all I was trying to do was fix a bit of depression. It made me a different person in may ways.

FUCK MAN MADE MEDS.

Tell him to get on CBD oil... good shit not no head shop crap. Full Spectrum of the plant.

How do you handle your friend.. no different than you did before. He is the same person as he was before... but he was suffering and probably medicated.

Edited November 26, 2018 by hxtr

[Icequeen]

My brother died a while ago, and my dad took it really hard. He tried swallowing some pills but luckily we got the cops there in time. It's very hard to deal with. You have to take it one step at a time. There really isnt any good advice because everyone deals with things differently. I chose to shut myself down, and I guess that's why I'm a bitch.......

[hxtr]

How about this... I can't even imagine how I was feeling back then. I remember all the details but the emotions that would push me to the edge.... all I know it was the worst internal feeling ever. Like some is standing on your emotions suffocating your thoughts in one direction. As if there is no other solution. Tunnel vision thoughts grouped in a self loathing that you just want to go away.  What a dark place deep depression is. We all deal with situational depression but deep depression consumes you from the inside out. Every choice you make gets is filtered though the metal prison. I'm glad all them feelings are stuck in that emotional memory block. I like my happy laughing side much better. I try very hard to avoid going there at all costs, even terminating friendships, relationships you name it in an effort to avoid unnecessary stress. I tend to go over bard in them efforts at times but do it as a a self defense action. Better to go away then have this get bad.

What is funny, now I know I was not allowed to die. Have had so many close calls in my life that I know now I will die when God is ready for me to die. That bastard! lol joking God.

[Angelz]

1 hour ago, PainKiller said:

You think we can also get this moved to the clan members section? I don't think this topic is overly acceptable on the public page - its a very sensitive topic

Why would you want to hide a topic like this?

Someone who is contemplating suicide and does not want to say it could be reading this and it may help them.

Someone may not want to talk about a family member or friend that is going or went through this and reading this thread may help them help their family or friend.

[blackcat]

2 hours ago, PainKiller said:

You think we can also get this moved to the clan members section? I don't think this topic is overly acceptable on the public page - its a very sensitive topic

I don't think I would move it, your story may help someone. It's a statement that things can get better and maybe it will give hope to someone that has none right now.

Thanksgiving and Christmas are very hard for some , We get older we miss the ones we had that have gone on. A lot of people are lonely this time of year. Your  stuck in the house because of weather and alone with just your feelings. It can get to you. I would ask that if anyone knows of others like this just to reach out to them, a phone call, email or visit if you can, just something to let them know they are not alone and others care about them. It could mean a lot to a depressed and lonely person . Maybe even sometimes more than you would ever know.

[Sourtap]

Im dealing with suicides, attempted suicides and self harm/mutilation on a daily base due to my work field.

Sure there are 'basic' tips and points to observe but every person and along with that, their personal environment is different and need a specialised approach. 

You can hit me up any time for questions, advice or just a plain talk.

Hope your friend finds out a way to deal with his demons, specially for the long run.

Take care buddy!

[PainKiller]

9 hours ago, blackcat said:

I don't think I would move it, your story may help someone. It's a statement that things can get better and maybe it will give hope to someone that has none right now.

Thanksgiving and Christmas are very hard for some , We get older we miss the ones we had that have gone on. A lot of people are lonely this time of year. Your  stuck in the house because of weather and alone with just your feelings. It can get to you. I would ask that if anyone knows of others like this just to reach out to them, a phone call, email or visit if you can, just something to let them know they are not alone and others care about them. It could mean a lot to a depressed and lonely person . Maybe even sometimes more than you would ever know.

 

10 hours ago, Angelz said:

Why would you want to hide a topic like this?

Someone who is contemplating suicide and does not want to say it could be reading this and it may help them.

Someone may not want to talk about a family member or friend that is going or went through this and reading this thread may help them help their family or friend.

I am sorry, I didn't think of it that way

[Lovyan]

15 hours ago, blackcat said:

I don't think I would move it, your story may help someone. It's a statement that things can get better and maybe it will give hope to someone that has none right now.

Thanksgiving and Christmas are very hard for some , We get older we miss the ones we had that have gone on. A lot of people are lonely this time of year. Your  stuck in the house because of weather and alone with just your feelings. It can get to you. I would ask that if anyone knows of others like this just to reach out to them, a phone call, email or visit if you can, just something to let them know they are not alone and others care about them. It could mean a lot to a depressed and lonely person . Maybe even sometimes more than you would ever know.

Tell me about it, I miss my parents, grandparents, especially my grandpa Which was my dad, he raised me since i was little, that past recently, so Christmas gonna be tough...I agree It Can be Lonely because of Bad weather.. hope this topic does help with yaccster and some of our members

[Sixgun]

After all the years I spent in the military I have come across a lot of suicides. Actually 6 members of my unit over the last couple years have. I have attend many military funerals which I never want to do again. Of the remaining members of my unit I try to be a positive influence on them and listen to them when they want to express every feeling they are going through. I meet with active and nonactive members now and try to help them through hard times. I think the best think is to be there for them and support them.