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If you want to know various stats I will post a list of what guns replaces the originals, tho some are self explanatory, and the stats for bullet damage etc are all available online at multiple CoD sites. There are no 'feelings'. The Sig556 is a direct replacement for the M-16 for example and all the various stats are identical. Barring something that got missed... like the aforementioned mk46.

For the P90 and grenades, can you describe your loadout? I am not seeing the issue but there might be a specific conflict someplace.

I must be honest and say yes its possible your own SAM shot you down. Shouldnt happen again. :fool:

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2 hours ago, Sammy said:

BTW... yes a few setting for one of the MK46/SAW options were incorrect making it too easy to use... especially spamming... and will be fixed. The others behave normally.

Too easy to use according to who? You? The settings, whatever they are, aren't incorrect if that is what people prefer and want.

You are allowing your own personal bias to affect what changes are being made. This isn't the Sammy server and it baffles me why you are given near carte blanche to make these decisions and we have to fight tooth and nail to get any kind of change.

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I like the new mod , I think it should be set back to the test version, and also put up the old version on a separate serve, so tired of hearing ppl cry, (oh he stole my nuke, or they stole my package) it’s a perk get over it, I do agree some tweaks need done and stuff but I don’t agree trying to please just a few ppl, it’s new try it out give your ideas, don’t badger Sammy , he is doing what he can , but not everyone is gonna like it, so why can’t we have both versions up on separate servers, that why the ones who cry can go to that server since they can’t cope with change. But all in all I love all you idiots ? 

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1 hour ago, Sharpe said:

Too easy to use according to who? You? The settings, whatever they are, aren't incorrect if that is what people prefer and want.

You are allowing your own personal bias to affect what changes are being made. This isn't the Sammy server and it baffles me why you are given near carte blanche to make these decisions and we have to fight tooth and nail to get any kind of change.

Agree. Why change something that is not broken

 

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Deja vu. The same usual suspects trying to dominate everyone else to get their way. Happens every time. There also does come a point where you just cant reason with some people, so you stop trying and focus on doing what needs to be done. So onward.

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22 minutes ago, Sammy said:

Deja vu. The same usual suspects trying to dominate everyone else to get their way. Happens every time. There also does come a point where you just cant reason with some people, so you stop trying and focus on doing what needs to be done. So onward.

I think you are deflecting and are guilty of exactly what you are accusing some of us off. I think you should go back and reread my extensive reply on the last page and the quotes from a good number of regulars who have played the server for years. I can't see how it comes across as trying to "dominate everyone else to get their way". You are simply writing off our legitimate concerns to try and get your own way, as evidenced by "so you stop trying and focus on doing what needs to be done. So onward."

I certainly don't have all the answers. The vast majority may very well like the new guns. That is fine, it may well just be time for some of us to move on.

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I like the new mod too.

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Definite fan of the new mod.  Absolutely appreciate all the hard work that has gone into and continues with this, thank you @Sammy. Looking forward to it's progression and refinement.

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7 hours ago, Sixgun said:

Agree. Why change something that is not broken

Because no change would be boring.

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4 hours ago, Sharpe said:

 

the worst settings ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  please listen to our requests   not your pleasures

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4 hours ago, Sharpe said:

Cred că te dezamăgi și ești vinovat de exact ceea ce acuzi pe unii dintre noi. Cred că ar trebui să vă întoarceți și să citiți replica mea extinsă pe ultima pagină și ghilimelele unui număr bun de obișnuiți care au jucat serverul de ani buni. Nu văd cum se confruntă, încercând să „domine pe toți ceilalți pentru a-și lua drumul”. Pur și simplu scriiți preocupările noastre legitime pentru a încerca să vă faceți propriul drum, așa cum este demonstrat de „astfel încât să încetați să încercați și să vă concentrați pe a face ceea ce trebuie făcut. Așa înainte”.

Cu siguranță nu am toate răspunsurile. Marea majoritate poate plăcea foarte bine noile arme. Este în regulă, este posibil să fie timpul pentru unii dintre noi să mergem mai departe.

why our recommendations are not taken into account ?we are the ones who populate the server,you have no idea how much time I lost on this server for fun !!! over 10k hours,I have been playing on these servers for over 10 years.

I stopped playing on this server when 3 years ago,just for mod change .I never understood : why changes are made when everything is going well

I came back every year ,to check the game mode  .I love it when the changes are made by those who do not play on this server   I've been talking to myself for 3 years)))

I requested a 3 year old for  perk change .(@Sammy and @Rugger )            words in the wind  !!! even now I don't think anything will happen  .... he left the game many good players, you have thought of the reason

ok  That's all I had to say  sorry if I upset someone

FU beech

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1 hour ago, YACCster said:

Definite fan of the new mod.  Absolutely appreciate all the hard work that has gone into and continues with this, thank you @Sammy. Looking forward to it's progression and refinement.

@YACCster You aren't complaining because this server is a direct upgrade for you. You just throw grenades at people and steal killstreaks. Even worse, you taunt the person afterward. As toxic as they come. I can't say I am mad, though. In fact, I am at peace because it's not about killstreaks for me. I expect my killstreaks to be stolen if I die. I don't use Heist because I am not a piece of shit human being. @Sammy it would be funny if when someone steals an Explosive Decoy with Heist they blow themselves up. 

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I suck at the game anyway so idk how valid my opinion is here, but I think the new mod is pretty cool so far. I haven't noticed anything other than the bubble issues which are being ironed out anyway. I like the defrost effects, they're cute.

I do get sad when people steal my killstreaks so please be kind to me because I'm a noob and usually don't have anything worth stealing anyway.

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37 minutes ago, RANDALL said:

@YACCster You aren't complaining because this server is a direct upgrade for you. You just throw grenades at people and steal killstreaks. Even worse, you taunt the person afterward. As toxic as they come. I can't say I am mad, though. In fact, I am at peace because it's not about killstreaks for me. I expect my killstreaks to be stolen if I die. I don't use Heist because I am not a piece of shit human being. @Sammy it would be funny if when someone steals an Explosive Decoy with Heist they blow themselves up. 

LOL @RANDALL!  I love the new features, and certainly the Trophy system is in direct opposition to anyone using nades, smaws etc., how does that help your stated agenda for me?  Love the Heist, and it's been refined to being much more fair like many of the things during the progression of this beta.  As I said in game this weekend I'd think a Decoy Perk that would blow up the Heister taking it would be a fantastic idea, and think it should blow them up once they try and use it, perhaps taking a few of their teammates with it.

 

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6 hours ago, Sammy said:

Deja vu. The same usual suspects trying to dominate everyone else to get their way. Happens every time. There also does come a point where you just cant reason with some people, so you stop trying and focus on doing what needs to be done. So onward.

Coming from somebody who doesn't even play the game.

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Here is the weapons file for everyone that wants to look at it. 

You will need an unzipping program to open it. 

Once you open it you will see a long list of weapon files, I'm not going to go through all of the files because its a lot. Each weapon has multiple files because of attachments so each attachment has its own file and weapon stats. 

A lot of these weapons are not the name of the weapon in game, like the  M14_mp is really in game the WEAPONFILE\displayName\WEAPON_MW3_MK14

So have fun going through it 

weapons.iwd

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Amazing all these digs at Sammy, a reminder, he is not doing these himself, HE HAS BEEN ASKED to do them, so lay off him, you want to have a go well try the senior admins first. Then when they tell you to fuck off just play the game, because they do, they have never hidden the fact it was going to change. And for the fckr who recently implied that people like me shouldn't comment because they never play?, that would have raised a smile with many. I might not play at your times but I play every day when I can, in fact to rub salt into the wound I was on the very first development team, and you can confirm that with Rugger so fu. Spinpuppy put it well in another post, it's just a fucking cartoon and game, if it is ruining your life get counselling. I see no complaints from a lot of really good players, they seem ok?

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The old 146 is up on here 162.248.95.161:28960 >XI< MW2 Freezetag #2

This is also the redirect from the main server

 

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1 hour ago, BUDMAN said:

It's just a Game people...

Words to live by ?

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A pair of EMPs should knock out a Trophy System.  Or something.  There should be some way to destroy them other than cars and bullets.  I love the idea of them - especially for things like sudden death (teammates working together with a pair of EMP mines and a couple of trophy systems in a room with decent cover and shooting lanes would be impossible to defeat in sudden death).

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Stealing a trap/decoy. That is an interesting idea to mull over.  Maybe thats the anti-heist. Have to think about how that could be incorporated and where it would go.

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For the trophy not being able to go after a projectile, that would have to sound like something like a stealth grenade that can be neither seen nor heard. Not something in any of the games (I think). There has to be something to show that while it can shoot down a flashbang it cant shoot down an emp. A stealth grenade is another interesting idea but to be useful it would have to be more than something to go after trophies. Time for some brainstorming.

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40 minutes ago, Sammy said:

A stealth grenade

This is a slippery slope, no?  The introduction of new technology has changed the balance of the game (for example I am no longer using stun grenades because of all the Trophy Systems being used) - adding a new piece of technology to "balance" the other thing already added seems like it could have more downstream effects than desired.   

It's a powerful enough piece of technology that I'd actually like to see how an effective, coordinated, communicating team could use it.  It definitely provides for new strategies and tactics.  I would be cool to see how effective they are in a tournament/competition.

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2 hours ago, YACCster said:

LOL @RANDALL!  I love the new features, and certainly the Trophy system is in direct opposition to anyone using nades, smaws etc., how does that help your stated agenda for me?  Love the Heist, and it's been refined to being much more fair like many of the things during the progression of this beta.  As I said in game this weekend I'd think a Decoy Perk that would blow up the Heister taking it would be a fantastic idea, and think it should blow them up once they try and use it, perhaps taking a few of their teammates with it.

 

@YACCster It is my opinion only, not an agenda because I have no intent. My frustration has nothing to do with you, specifically. Here is why I am frustrated:

The pump action shotgun is a downgrade compared to the SPAS-12 in the old mod because of a horrible sprintout time compared to near instant hipfire capability with other guns, reduced range even with the Grip, and I can't jump to close the distance and shoot mid air because of the sprintout time. I am getting used to this, I just have to adjust like everyone else with their favorite gun. 

The .44 Mag is unreliable. The rate of fire is not purely semi-automatic. It does not matter how fast your trigger finger is, it won't fire any faster. I use it to snipe to make up for my shotgun's limited range. It is less powerful now. It is also much less accurate. I was playing on the map aosta valley yesterday and I had made it to the enemy spawn house at the top of the hill. I saw an afk player in their spawn. From the second floor window at the back of the house, I aimed center torso at the afk player, took my time, and missed the first five shots before landing the sixth. I cannot rely on this at all. How can I kill someone using a trophy system outside the range of my shotgun if the .44 mag is so inaccurate? As I mentioned in a previous post, the trophy system even shoots down smoke grenades. I just want to run by and not get shot. I can understand shooting down nova gas, but not smoke grenades. 

The Steath perk has been nerfed. I wish it would grant immunity to bouncing betties and claymores like in the previous mod. My playstyle is to infiltrate and take out campers. There are so many measures in place to protect campers now that I must repeatably die trying to get close enough with my shotgun, and by then, I will have fed the camper so many kills to escape with a spawn protection killstreaks once I get defrosted. I understand I can use thr Hacker perk now, but I prefer Dead Silence because good players take advantage of sound to hear footsteps.

I have used the same class setup for years. Everything has been nerfed. I barely get enough kills to get an RC-XD. I don't even like using spawn protection killstreaks because I think the post killstreak spawn protection is cheap, but now I pretty much have to use it to retreat and set up my SAM Turret, or else it just gets stolen. Most maps I get to use no killstreaks at all unless I survive until the end of the round. 

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