Angelz Posted July 15, 2020 Member ID: 24295 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 11 Topic Count: 272 Topics Per Day: 0.09 Content Count: 2311 Content Per Day: 0.79 Reputation: 2829 Achievement Points: 20239 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 17 Joined: 03/27/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 2, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2020 In Ontario, Canada we are about to be put on a mandatory face mask wearing in public places like grocery stores etc I have been against face masks from day 1 because they do not protect you if anything they harm you. Finally, a video that proves it. TedsofBeverlyHills, SirThunder , EastCoast50 and 5 others 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icequeen Posted July 15, 2020 Member ID: 9264 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 87 Topic Count: 90 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6041 Content Per Day: 1.52 Reputation: 7900 Achievement Points: 50789 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 53 Joined: 05/13/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Birthday: 07/13/1981 Device: Android Share Posted July 15, 2020 Face masks definitely don't protect you. They are only meant to protect other's from you. SnullerDk, Dot80, iboomboom and 7 others 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Angelz Posted July 15, 2020 Member ID: 24295 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 11 Topic Count: 272 Topics Per Day: 0.09 Content Count: 2311 Content Per Day: 0.79 Reputation: 2829 Achievement Points: 20239 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 17 Joined: 03/27/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 2, 2021 Author Share Posted July 15, 2020 27 minutes ago, Icequeen said: Face masks definitely don't protect you. They are only meant to protect other's from you. If you sneeze while wearing one, the spray from your sneeze goes right through it. FUNky and TedsofBeverlyHills 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FUNky Posted July 15, 2020 Member ID: 25212 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 38 Topic Count: 43 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1449 Content Per Day: 0.54 Reputation: 2446 Achievement Points: 14728 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 13 Joined: 10/31/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 6, 2021 Birthday: 07/13/1967 Share Posted July 15, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Angelz said: If you sneeze while wearing one, the spray from your sneeze goes right through it. @Angelz you know the party is always right Edited July 15, 2020 by FUNky Sharpe, iboomboom, Angelz and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Hunter1948 Posted July 15, 2020 Member ID: 1850 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 98 Topic Count: 328 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 8620 Content Per Day: 1.75 Reputation: 4222 Achievement Points: 55994 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 5 Joined: 09/29/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 29, 2023 Birthday: 06/19/1948 Device: Windows Share Posted July 15, 2020 The wife went to the bank the other day wearing a shield. The girl at the door said she would have to wear a mask and if she didn't have one they would give her on. She told them she has alot of trouble breathing with a mask and she was allowed to enter with out one. Angelz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
lTplkey336 Posted July 15, 2020 Member ID: 27768 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 10 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 922 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 1115 Achievement Points: 7638 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/18/19 Status: Offline Last Seen: 3 hours ago Device: Windows Share Posted July 15, 2020 I would have thought that after 5 months of being informed scientifically that face masks are worn to protect other people from catching the virus and not you would have sunk in by now. Obviously not. Wont respond to this any more , but am shocked that the question even arose. SparksHunter, Icequeen and deerejon 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Labob Posted July 15, 2020 Member ID: 42 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 50 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 8255 Content Per Day: 1.55 Reputation: 5956 Achievement Points: 53531 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 12 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 8 hours ago Birthday: 01/30/1959 Device: Windows Share Posted July 15, 2020 If you sneeze while wearing a mask does the mask not get wet ? So then the mask did stop something did it not ? Masks do not stop everything there purpose is to lower the spread. Unlike your post which is meant to allow it to spread. Every little thing helps again your post nope does not help. Reminds me of all those people who will refuse to use the app that helps track contacts. I'm never going to use something that tracks my wearabouts . But yet they spend hours on facebook and use google maps. Really Angel with a Z use your mind for good you're too smart for that type of post. Merlin007, Icequeen and PHUCKITMAN 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
El_Terrible Posted July 15, 2020 Member ID: 4667 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 4 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 62 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 89 Achievement Points: 673 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/04/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 19 Birthday: 08/12/1964 Device: Macintosh Share Posted July 15, 2020 My whole family has COVID. Wear a face mask. Consider that you might be an asymptomatic carrier and are spreading it because you aren't covering up. We have worn them since the beginning, but we live in a resort town that has been overrun by mask-less vacationers. None of our friends have it. We got it from somebody in a public space who thought they didn't need to wear one. That people are still refusing to do such a simple thing is mind-boggling to me. Quit rationalizing why you don't need to. Icequeen, a1rbud, iboomboom and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Angelz Posted July 15, 2020 Member ID: 24295 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 11 Topic Count: 272 Topics Per Day: 0.09 Content Count: 2311 Content Per Day: 0.79 Reputation: 2829 Achievement Points: 20239 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 17 Joined: 03/27/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 2, 2021 Author Share Posted July 15, 2020 1 hour ago, lTplkey336 said: I would have thought that after 5 months of being informed scientifically that face masks are worn to protect other people from catching the virus and not you would have sunk in by now. Obviously not. Wont respond to this any more , but am shocked that the question even arose. I think everyone gets the fact masks are said to protect people from you. But, what about if an infected person wears a mask and sneezes. It does not keep it in the mask fully. If you watched the video you would of seen that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikZzona Posted July 15, 2020 Member ID: 2845 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 11 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 308 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 402 Achievement Points: 6127 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/28/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 18 Birthday: 04/19/1990 Device: Windows Share Posted July 15, 2020 Here's a magical solution, maybe divert your head when you sneeze? Sneeze in your elbow or in a tissue, while aiming away from any human being, like any non-disgusting person should do regardless of whether there is a pandemic going or not. Jeez, I mean no offense, but is this really how low we've fallen in this debate? Isn't there any good argument against the mask left that hasn't been debunked that you have to use such weak arguments? Lovyan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
FUNky Posted July 15, 2020 Member ID: 25212 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 38 Topic Count: 43 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1449 Content Per Day: 0.54 Reputation: 2446 Achievement Points: 14728 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 13 Joined: 10/31/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 6, 2021 Birthday: 07/13/1967 Share Posted July 15, 2020 I didn’t see anything in @Angelz post that said she wouldn’t wear a mask if mandated. I think reading comprehension is what’s the issue here. There is absolutely nothing wrong with someone having an opinion that doesn’t align with yours. Sharpe, Icequeen, Angelz and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sharpe Posted July 15, 2020 Member ID: 23520 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 30 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 736 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 820 Achievement Points: 7099 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/13/15 Status: Offline Last Seen: 17 hours ago Device: Windows Share Posted July 15, 2020 I think we should all start wearing helmets everywhere we go. You never know when you might accidentally fall over and hit your head. We also need to ban all vehicles immediately, far too dangerous. Only walking from now on - with helmets. Don't even think about using your metal cutlery anymore, you have to use your hands until the government mandated plastic spoons are delivered next week. Enjoy the newnormaltm! Icequeen, Angelz and FUNky 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Labob Posted July 15, 2020 Member ID: 42 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 50 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 8255 Content Per Day: 1.55 Reputation: 5956 Achievement Points: 53531 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 12 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 8 hours ago Birthday: 01/30/1959 Device: Windows Share Posted July 15, 2020 2 hours ago, FUNky said: with someone having an opinion that doesn’t align with yours I know a lot of people who think drinking and driving is still cool just don't be falling down drunk dude. But according to your point of view its ok. We live in a rather large society lets try and be careful of what we do that might kill somebody we do not know. Try a bit of compassion and try to be helpful to others. Or just go to a giant mask free concert then go visit your grandparents. I'm sure everybody will be fine were all just over reacting to this silly pandemic. There old anyway and would probably die from the flu before this covid thing right. Hell I read on the internet that the chance of dying in a fire caused by somebody smoking in bed is 10 times more likely than dying from covid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
FUNky Posted July 15, 2020 Member ID: 25212 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 38 Topic Count: 43 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1449 Content Per Day: 0.54 Reputation: 2446 Achievement Points: 14728 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 13 Joined: 10/31/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 6, 2021 Birthday: 07/13/1967 Share Posted July 15, 2020 (edited) Again with the reading comprehension issue. Where did I say that I don’t wear a mask? Come on get a grip. By the way, it’s still okay if someone has a different opinion Edited July 15, 2020 by FUNky Angelz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Icequeen Posted July 15, 2020 Member ID: 9264 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 87 Topic Count: 90 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6041 Content Per Day: 1.52 Reputation: 7900 Achievement Points: 50789 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 53 Joined: 05/13/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Birthday: 07/13/1981 Device: Android Share Posted July 15, 2020 Well rather anyone thinks @Angelz question was silly or not im going to address it because not alot of people are aware of certain things and it does not ever hurt to educate someone for the purpose of their own sake. If you sneeze into a mask unfortunately that mask is contaminated regardless if you are sick or not. If you touch your mask its also contaminated. You can only touch the strings to put on and remove. And then good hand sanitization before and after. So if you sneeze or cough into your mask you have to replace it unfortunately. Dman67, Merlin007, EastCoast50 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
iboomboom Posted July 15, 2020 Member ID: 20343 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 88 Topic Count: 203 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 3379 Content Per Day: 0.89 Reputation: 3016 Achievement Points: 30015 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/11/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Birthday: 07/01/1983 Device: Macintosh Share Posted July 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Sharpe said: I think we should all start wearing helmets everywhere we go. Fuck your helmet, jacket, artillery and trophy system. people the video shared was meant to identify effective masks vs non effective ones. I watched the original video. He was trying to help people identify fake masks that do not filter your breath very well. Watch until he gets to the mask that doesn't allow the spray to get thru. i have a tough time with masks. I feel claustrophobic, and around too many people my anxiety builds up. Yes, i still manage to wear it as best as I can. I thought i was getting less oxygen when i had a mask on. Using an oximeter, you realize that's just not true. i don't understand why we make every thing so partisan in America. Especially when it's about the collective well being. Be it the environment, a health issue or what have you. Icequeen, Bloodyrbeye and Sharpe 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Angelz Posted July 15, 2020 Member ID: 24295 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 11 Topic Count: 272 Topics Per Day: 0.09 Content Count: 2311 Content Per Day: 0.79 Reputation: 2829 Achievement Points: 20239 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 17 Joined: 03/27/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 2, 2021 Author Share Posted July 15, 2020 I said I was against masks. I did not say I would not wear one. Since March when this covid virus hit Ontario there was no forcing of wearing masks. Now it has been months since any new cases so why all of a sudden are masks being forced? The forcing of the masks doesn't happen till July 17. If it was going to mandatory why did they not do it right away? Why set a date for it? FUNky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelz Posted July 15, 2020 Member ID: 24295 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 11 Topic Count: 272 Topics Per Day: 0.09 Content Count: 2311 Content Per Day: 0.79 Reputation: 2829 Achievement Points: 20239 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 17 Joined: 03/27/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 2, 2021 Author Share Posted July 15, 2020 I like how some peeps talk shit to others without reading prior posts LOL Makes me laugh. Different thread that this happened in LOL FUNky and Dman67 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovyan Posted July 16, 2020 Member ID: 1908 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 6 Topic Count: 109 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1151 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 603 Achievement Points: 8836 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 10/22/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 29 Birthday: 07/21/1980 Device: Windows Share Posted July 16, 2020 i cant stand it when someone talks smack before they understand the situation. Dman67 and Angelz 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
PimpedOutPete Posted July 16, 2020 Member ID: 174 Group: +++ COD2 Head Admin Followers: 129 Topic Count: 387 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 14873 Content Per Day: 2.80 Reputation: 7814 Achievement Points: 90994 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 52 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 2 hours ago Birthday: 04/23/1970 Device: Macintosh Share Posted July 16, 2020 7 hours ago, Angelz said: I said I was against masks. I did not say I would not wear one. Since March when this covid virus hit Ontario there was no forcing of wearing masks. Now it has been months since any new cases so why all of a sudden are masks being forced? The forcing of the masks doesn't happen till July 17. If it was going to mandatory why did they not do it right away? Why set a date for it? My friend, I wish to give you my opinion from a healthcare providers point of view. I really dont care what we used to fight this virus, anything helps. One case turns into 2, then 4,8,16 and so on and so on. Surgical masks protect you from droplet spread and this is how this is spread, droplets. Let me give you an example, have you ever seen the PPE worn in a hospital? It literally looks see-threw and you wonder how the hell is that going to protect you. Its prevents droplets from penitrating and you can wear and not sweat a storm. This is how masks works, unfortunately many are not worn properly, they dont seal very well and people wear them way beyond their effectiveness. The reality is everything helps. What makes is virus so deadly is it has a asymptomatic stage which means you can spread it and dont even know. SARS was more deadly but patients became ill right away and you knew as a healthcare provider to quarantine them. So wearing some type of face covering will provide some protection. I hope this helps. I will provide the difference between an aerosol and a droplet in a moment. TedsofBeverlyHills, Angelz and PHUCKITMAN 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
PimpedOutPete Posted July 16, 2020 Member ID: 174 Group: +++ COD2 Head Admin Followers: 129 Topic Count: 387 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 14873 Content Per Day: 2.80 Reputation: 7814 Achievement Points: 90994 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 52 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 2 hours ago Birthday: 04/23/1970 Device: Macintosh Share Posted July 16, 2020 Ok, the video shows them using an aerosol can to prove there point. Its false in respect to Covid-19. Covid-19 or diseases similar are spread by droplet form or better yet large droplet form. I say large but its still very small in size but they call it large. Aerosols are typically much smaller but do have liquid in the air, hence as the video shows. The reality is humans cant produce an aerosol effect hence why Covid is not spread in this fashion. Masks prevent droplet spread and not aerosol spread. Of course the science is not so black and white but I hope this helps. When Covid hit, as a provider we had to learn very quickly how to field questions like this, but with science it can be proven wrong. I hope this helps. Hunter1948, iboomboom and Angelz 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Icequeen Posted July 16, 2020 Member ID: 9264 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 87 Topic Count: 90 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6041 Content Per Day: 1.52 Reputation: 7900 Achievement Points: 50789 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 53 Joined: 05/13/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Birthday: 07/13/1981 Device: Android Share Posted July 16, 2020 So the mask I'm wearing at the top is actually super paper thin and unfortunately its all that we are given to use but its effective for the droplets that Pete was talking about, and on the bottom is the PPE gear which is once again very see through and what Pete said is very true. PimpedOutPete, Angelz, EastCoast50 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
PimpedOutPete Posted July 16, 2020 Member ID: 174 Group: +++ COD2 Head Admin Followers: 129 Topic Count: 387 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 14873 Content Per Day: 2.80 Reputation: 7814 Achievement Points: 90994 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 52 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 2 hours ago Birthday: 04/23/1970 Device: Macintosh Share Posted July 16, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Icequeen said: So the mask I'm wearing at the top is actually super paper thin and unfortunately its all that we are given to use but its effective for the droplets that Pete was talking about, and on the bottom is the PPE gear which is once again very see through and what Pete said is very true. Great pics Icequeen. We use the exact same PPE but we have to use a full face shield and a mask. We have different level masks depending on if the patient is covid positive, or has symptoms or symptom free. We have been lucky, we have had no shortages of PPE. Note: I love the name on the eyewear, we do the same lol Edited July 16, 2020 by PimpedOutPete Icequeen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
spinpuppy Posted July 16, 2020 Member ID: 3682 Group: ++ COD5 Admin Followers: 56 Topic Count: 178 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1834 Content Per Day: 0.43 Reputation: 1747 Achievement Points: 14780 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 08/27/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 11 Birthday: 01/12/1960 Device: Android Share Posted July 16, 2020 On 7/15/2020 at 6:38 AM, Angelz said: If you sneeze while wearing one, the spray from your sneeze goes right through it. It's equivalent to putting a chain link fence up around your back yard to stop mosquitoes from coming in Angelz, Deckard and Hunter1948 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Labob Posted July 16, 2020 Member ID: 42 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 50 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 8255 Content Per Day: 1.55 Reputation: 5956 Achievement Points: 53531 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 12 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 8 hours ago Birthday: 01/30/1959 Device: Windows Share Posted July 16, 2020 5 hours ago, spinpuppy said: t's equivalent to putting a chain link fence up around your back yard to stop mosquitoes from coming in It will stop the really big ones and you should be happy because those big one are so fat they can't fly over a 4 foot fence. So they would just sit on you and suck the blood out of you like a juice container Angelz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
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