Ruggerxi Posted August 25, 2020 Member ID: 6 Group: ++++ Senior Admin Followers: 184 Topic Count: 2827 Topics Per Day: 0.53 Content Count: 11853 Content Per Day: 2.22 Reputation: 12917 Achievement Points: 106398 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 123 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Birthday: 08/25/1976 Device: iPhone Share Posted August 25, 2020 Before this new TV I had a Samsung 1080HD TV and the picture looked a lot better than this new TV I run a TIVO Bolt through a cable card I just bought this 4k TV https://www.lg.com/us/support/product/lg-60UN7000PUB.AUS When I watch anything on cable TV it looks like shit I was thinking the video processor in the TIVO Bolt would of upscaled the cable signal and it would look super nice on the TV, but it did not. I checked to make sure the signal coming from the TIVO box was 2160 4k at 60hz Any suggestions on what to try to get a clear picture or did I just go too cheap on the TV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
YACCster Posted August 25, 2020 Member ID: 20683 Group: ++ COD4 Admin Followers: 138 Topic Count: 309 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 3345 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 4086 Achievement Points: 45205 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 22 Joined: 12/12/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Device: Macintosh Share Posted August 25, 2020 Try to hook up a computer at 4k and stream some youtube, see how it looks. We use an AppleTV 4k and stream everything, Hulu, NetFlix, AppleTV+, Disney+, etc alll looks fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Ruggerxi Posted August 25, 2020 Member ID: 6 Group: ++++ Senior Admin Followers: 184 Topic Count: 2827 Topics Per Day: 0.53 Content Count: 11853 Content Per Day: 2.22 Reputation: 12917 Achievement Points: 106398 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 123 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Birthday: 08/25/1976 Device: iPhone Author Share Posted August 25, 2020 1 minute ago, YACCster said: Try to hook up a computer at 4k and stream some youtube, see how it looks. We use an AppleTV 4k and stream everything, Hulu, NetFlix, AppleTV+, Disney+, etc alll looks fantastic. When I stream things that are 4k it looks nice, its the upscaling of the 1080 and 720 from regular cable channels where the issue is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
YACCster Posted August 25, 2020 Member ID: 20683 Group: ++ COD4 Admin Followers: 138 Topic Count: 309 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 3345 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 4086 Achievement Points: 45205 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 22 Joined: 12/12/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Device: Macintosh Share Posted August 25, 2020 12 minutes ago, Ruggerxi said: When I watch anything on cable TV it looks like shit ^ I found your problem FUNky and Bogleg 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Ruggerxi Posted August 25, 2020 Member ID: 6 Group: ++++ Senior Admin Followers: 184 Topic Count: 2827 Topics Per Day: 0.53 Content Count: 11853 Content Per Day: 2.22 Reputation: 12917 Achievement Points: 106398 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 123 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Birthday: 08/25/1976 Device: iPhone Author Share Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) Just now, YACCster said: ^ I found your problem Before this new TV the cable channels looked great Edited August 25, 2020 by Ruggerxi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
YACCster Posted August 25, 2020 Member ID: 20683 Group: ++ COD4 Admin Followers: 138 Topic Count: 309 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 3345 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 4086 Achievement Points: 45205 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 22 Joined: 12/12/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Device: Macintosh Share Posted August 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Ruggerxi said: Before this new TV the cable channels looked great Or did they just not look as crappy? iboomboom, FUNky and BigPapaDean 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Ruggerxi Posted August 25, 2020 Member ID: 6 Group: ++++ Senior Admin Followers: 184 Topic Count: 2827 Topics Per Day: 0.53 Content Count: 11853 Content Per Day: 2.22 Reputation: 12917 Achievement Points: 106398 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 123 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Birthday: 08/25/1976 Device: iPhone Author Share Posted August 25, 2020 Just now, YACCster said: Or did they just not look as crappy? It looked a lot better than this new TV is all I can say. I didn't change anything with my setup, so I was hoping there is a setting I need to change for a 4k tv, or something I need to hook up different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
BigPapaDean Posted August 25, 2020 Member ID: 1128 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 78 Topic Count: 1195 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 6518 Content Per Day: 1.26 Reputation: 4407 Achievement Points: 63361 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 5 Joined: 02/13/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: 17 hours ago Birthday: 10/21/1954 Device: Windows Share Posted August 25, 2020 Take my picture and scare that dude into submission. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Labob Posted August 25, 2020 Member ID: 42 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 50 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 8264 Content Per Day: 1.55 Reputation: 5976 Achievement Points: 53607 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 12 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 8 hours ago Birthday: 01/30/1959 Device: Android Share Posted August 25, 2020 You only have what is there. Upscaling it to a 1080p signal worked ok upscaling it 4 more time kills it. I would set the TIVo to allow for the best picture signal. Cable reduces the signal for bandwidth reason and hopes the upscale works well. As you can see it does not. Good luck baldie, FUNky and TedsofBeverlyHills 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Ruggerxi Posted August 25, 2020 Member ID: 6 Group: ++++ Senior Admin Followers: 184 Topic Count: 2827 Topics Per Day: 0.53 Content Count: 11853 Content Per Day: 2.22 Reputation: 12917 Achievement Points: 106398 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 123 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Birthday: 08/25/1976 Device: iPhone Author Share Posted August 25, 2020 30 minutes ago, Labob said: You only have what is there. Upscaling it to a 1080p signal worked ok upscaling it 4 more time kills it. I would set the TIVo to allow for the best picture signal. Cable reduces the signal for bandwidth reason and hopes the upscale works well. As you can see it does not. Good luck Would you say this is the case for all the TVs? or do I need a better TV with a better video upscaling processor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Angelz Posted August 25, 2020 Member ID: 24295 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 11 Topic Count: 272 Topics Per Day: 0.09 Content Count: 2311 Content Per Day: 0.78 Reputation: 2829 Achievement Points: 20239 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 17 Joined: 03/27/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 2, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2020 It could also just be the TV itself. Made on a Friday. It happens. Maybe take it back and get a replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpe Posted August 25, 2020 Member ID: 23520 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 31 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 747 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 825 Achievement Points: 7179 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/13/15 Status: Offline Last Seen: 27 minutes ago Device: Windows Share Posted August 25, 2020 Remembered @KaptCrunch posted this a few weeks ago No idea if it will help your situation though. YACCster and Ruggerxi 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Mule Posted August 25, 2020 Member ID: 390 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 32 Topic Count: 410 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 4251 Content Per Day: 0.80 Reputation: 3050 Achievement Points: 35625 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 09/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Yesterday at 12:46 AM Birthday: 05/08/1959 Device: Windows Share Posted August 25, 2020 Make sure the sharpness is set to 0 zero. Very important. Ruggerxi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Dark Asylumn Posted August 25, 2020 Member ID: 809 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 41 Topic Count: 251 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2835 Content Per Day: 0.54 Reputation: 1016 Achievement Points: 20374 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/29/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 9 hours ago Birthday: 06/25/1979 Device: Windows Share Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) ok 4k has motion plus or some other name depending on brand. when its on it make the pic look like a 90's soap opera. turn that down or off and you will lose the crappy over worked image and get an outstanding pic Edited August 25, 2020 by Dark Asylumn TedsofBeverlyHills, baldie and Ruggerxi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Labob Posted August 25, 2020 Member ID: 42 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 50 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 8264 Content Per Day: 1.55 Reputation: 5976 Achievement Points: 53607 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 12 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 8 hours ago Birthday: 01/30/1959 Device: Android Share Posted August 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Ruggerxi said: Would you say this is the case for all the TVs? or do I need a better TV with a better video upscaling processor? All TV's . Its kinda like blowing up a small picture. It just gets grainy. Upscaling tries to fill in the gaps. It might be ok to go a few steps up 420 to 720 to 1080 but to go further is a mess . Unless you have something big enough for th escaler to work with. This explains it better than me. LOL So plain cable TV might be 720p it has I think 777,600 pixels that would be impossible to stretch. I'm sure your TV has setting to compensate for this so those black bars are not half your TV. Remember, physical resolution is defined by the number of pixels on a display. It has nothing to do with the actual size of your TV. A 1080p TV screen is comprised of only 2,073,600 pixels, while a 4K screen has 8,294,400. If you show a 1080p video on a 4K TV without upscaling, the video will take up only a quarter of the screen. For a 1080p image to fit a 4K display, it needs to gain 6 million pixels through the upscaling process (at which point, it will become a 4K image). However, upscaling relies on a process called interpolation, which is really just a glorified guessing game. Ruggerxi, TedsofBeverlyHills and baldie 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
MikeB Posted August 25, 2020 Member ID: 59 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 12 Topic Count: 137 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2109 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 2327 Achievement Points: 15107 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 13 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 21 hours ago Device: Windows Share Posted August 25, 2020 Another factor in proper 4k viewing is distance to the tv from viewing area. TedsofBeverlyHills and Ruggerxi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Ruggerxi Posted August 26, 2020 Member ID: 6 Group: ++++ Senior Admin Followers: 184 Topic Count: 2827 Topics Per Day: 0.53 Content Count: 11853 Content Per Day: 2.22 Reputation: 12917 Achievement Points: 106398 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 123 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Birthday: 08/25/1976 Device: iPhone Author Share Posted August 26, 2020 I returned the LG and bought a Sony. Picture is perfect! Problem solved Bogleg, Dark Asylumn, Mule and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
BUDMAN Posted August 26, 2020 Member ID: 800 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 152 Topic Count: 135 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 6938 Content Per Day: 1.32 Reputation: 4485 Achievement Points: 58180 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 6 Joined: 11/27/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 34 minutes ago Birthday: 05/29/1957 Device: Windows Share Posted August 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ruggerxi said: I returned the LG and bought a Sony. Picture is perfect! Problem solved Sony Rocks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Bogleg Posted August 26, 2020 Member ID: 907 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 96 Topic Count: 126 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2731 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 3928 Achievement Points: 26177 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 13 Joined: 12/20/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 19 Birthday: 02/10/1969 Device: Windows Share Posted August 26, 2020 Cut the cable and get a good streaming service that provides you the content you deserve. FUNky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Bogleg Posted August 26, 2020 Member ID: 907 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 96 Topic Count: 126 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2731 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 3928 Achievement Points: 26177 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 13 Joined: 12/20/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 19 Birthday: 02/10/1969 Device: Windows Share Posted August 26, 2020 12 hours ago, Ruggerxi said: I returned the LG and bought a Sony How come you didn't stick with Samsung? YACCster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
YACCster Posted August 26, 2020 Member ID: 20683 Group: ++ COD4 Admin Followers: 138 Topic Count: 309 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 3345 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 4086 Achievement Points: 45205 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 22 Joined: 12/12/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Device: Macintosh Share Posted August 26, 2020 12 hours ago, Ruggerxi said: I returned the LG and bought a Sony. Picture is perfect! Problem solved I'm so sorry, when that breaks you will regret it. Sony in 2020 is not the Sony from 1990 Ruggerxi, Bogleg and FUNky 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Ruggerxi Posted August 26, 2020 Member ID: 6 Group: ++++ Senior Admin Followers: 184 Topic Count: 2827 Topics Per Day: 0.53 Content Count: 11853 Content Per Day: 2.22 Reputation: 12917 Achievement Points: 106398 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 123 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Birthday: 08/25/1976 Device: iPhone Author Share Posted August 26, 2020 26 minutes ago, Bogleg said: How come you didn't stick with Samsung? In my price range Sony had the best upscaling processor chip YACCster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
FUNky Posted August 26, 2020 Member ID: 25212 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 38 Topic Count: 43 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1449 Content Per Day: 0.53 Reputation: 2446 Achievement Points: 14728 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 13 Joined: 10/31/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 6, 2021 Birthday: 07/13/1967 Share Posted August 26, 2020 40 minutes ago, Bogleg said: Cut the cable and get a good streaming service that provides you the content you deserve. +1 and if you want your locals go with YouTube TV, they have locals in almost all markets as well as all the sports channels. Ruggerxi, BUDMAN, Bogleg and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Bogleg Posted August 26, 2020 Member ID: 907 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 96 Topic Count: 126 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2731 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 3928 Achievement Points: 26177 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 13 Joined: 12/20/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 19 Birthday: 02/10/1969 Device: Windows Share Posted August 26, 2020 (edited) There will likely be some real competitors soon (and maybe there are now, I haven't really looked) - but when we made the choice to get rid of cable TV the only two real options were Hulu and YouTube. We chose Hulu at the time (end of last year) - I don't recall exactly why. I can tell you that, at least where I live in central MA, we get all the local stations and all major sports - including NFL Endzone/Gameday and the regional sports networks. We added on HBO Max, Disney+ and Netflix and of course have Amazon Prime (we use a Fire Cube). With all that we're saving around $100/month. Edit: I also boosted our internet service to the max Spectrum provides in the process to compensate for all the additional streaming. Edited August 26, 2020 by Bogleg Ruggerxi, YACCster and FUNky 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
YACCster Posted August 26, 2020 Member ID: 20683 Group: ++ COD4 Admin Followers: 138 Topic Count: 309 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 3345 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 4086 Achievement Points: 45205 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 22 Joined: 12/12/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Device: Macintosh Share Posted August 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bogleg said: There will likely be some real competitors soon (and maybe there are now, I haven't really looked) - but when we made the choice to get rid of cable TV the only two real options were Hulu and YouTube. We chose Hulu at the time (end of last year) - I don't recall exactly why. I can tell you that, at least where I live in central MA, we get all the local stations and all major sports - including NFL Endzone/Gameday and the regional sports networks. We added on HBO Max, Disney+ and Netflix and of course have Amazon Prime (we use a Fire Cube). With all that we're saving around $100/month. Yep, we haven't had 'cable' or sat tv for many years, cycled through all the providers except YouTube because they didn't have LivePD but that's not an issue now that they are off air. Hulu with local channels has been our mainstay. FUNky, Bogleg and Ruggerxi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
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