Ruggerxi Posted June 1, 2021 Member ID: 6 Group: ++++ Senior Admin Followers: 184 Topic Count: 2827 Topics Per Day: 0.53 Content Count: 11848 Content Per Day: 2.22 Reputation: 12906 Achievement Points: 106376 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 123 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 8 hours ago Birthday: 08/25/1976 Device: iPhone Share Posted June 1, 2021 COD4 MW2 Freezetag players, big change is coming to the servers, this will mainly affect the very good players that constantly get killstreaks. Right now players are invisible from spawn protection when they leave their killstreak for 6 seconds, if you have combat medic you have 9 secs. So the really good players are invisible and in spawn protection a good amount of the time while us not so good players are sitting ducks for you to easily sneak up on and knife or kill us. I was thinking of changing it to, 2 secs of spawn protection which will give 3 secs to people with combat medic. This is only after leaving your killstreak MLG Grill, BlackRose, MikZzona and 8 others 8 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sitting-Duc Posted June 1, 2021 Member ID: 561 Group: ++++ Senior Admin Followers: 84 Topic Count: 502 Topics Per Day: 0.09 Content Count: 5334 Content Per Day: 1.01 Reputation: 4610 Achievement Points: 41339 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 29 Joined: 10/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Thursday at 06:33 PM Birthday: 04/06/1992 Device: Windows Share Posted June 1, 2021 Should be 2.25 seconds not 2 baldie, Ruggerxi, BUDMAN and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Timmah! Posted June 1, 2021 Member ID: 26443 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 35 Topic Count: 467 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 5955 Content Per Day: 2.52 Reputation: 10336 Achievement Points: 50949 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 118 Joined: 11/01/17 Status: Offline Last Seen: 27 minutes ago Birthday: 09/26/1971 Device: Android Share Posted June 1, 2021 (edited) Get ready for people with the heist perk complaining about not being able to steal as many packages because players won't be ranging out as far. Also, for me it's not so much about 5 extra seconds as just being invisible & being able to move to anywhere other than where I went into the killstreak reward before again becoming visible; the whole element of surprise thing. Edited June 2, 2021 by Timmah! clarity ShadyBrady, Kitsune, *fry* and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Noumenon Posted June 1, 2021 Member ID: 23987 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 5 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 41 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 33 Achievement Points: 432 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/22/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 5 Birthday: 06/07/1978 Device: iPhone Share Posted June 1, 2021 I know this is much more work but, IDEA: Instead of reducing the time, players respawn from a killstreak (or even death / new round) and immediately start to "fade" back to visible. Maybe with a Predator type cloaking that slowly reveals the player. But since the players can kinda be seen a little bit right away, they can fire right away as well. Just a thought! *fry* 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Majbasil Posted June 1, 2021 Member ID: 6247 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 22 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 648 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 832 Achievement Points: 5455 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/23/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: Thursday at 12:55 PM Device: Windows Share Posted June 1, 2021 Go for it Rugger, let's give it a go! 2 secs invisibility... and only 3 seconds for the medics... sounds like a plan. Exe, Snow White, baldie and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaDog Posted June 1, 2021 Member ID: 27243 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 3 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 120 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 202 Achievement Points: 1377 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/05/18 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 9 Birthday: 08/22/1962 Device: Windows Share Posted June 1, 2021 37 minutes ago, Majbasil said: Go for it Rugger, let's give it a go! 2 secs invisibility... and only 3 seconds for the medics... sounds like a plan. Agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sikon Posted June 1, 2021 Member ID: 27340 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 8 Topic Count: 80 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 717 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 605 Achievement Points: 5463 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 11/03/18 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 13 Birthday: 07/11/1980 Device: Windows Share Posted June 1, 2021 I feel the rounds will be much shorter when this is implemented. Being that when a team is down to one or two players, they will not be able to get out of spawn to thaw team mates. I think it should maybe be a server rule that you do not advance on a player while in spawn protection. Now obviously get to cover and get to a tactical location, but not in the sense of to go invisible to get be hind people and shoot them in the back. I am guilty of this too, but I also know how annoying it is. I'm all for recording players to see if they are hacking! The game has been around long enough, everyone 'should' know how to make a demo by now. For me personally, if anyone thinks I cheat, pm me.. I will gladly hit record on gforce and /record for a demo of me playing. Furthermore, @HotRod55 lives about 20 minutes from me. I'm sure I could buy some beer and play side by side to remove any doubt.. lmao! 9 times out of 10 I'm drunk when I play anyways. I am all for any changes that make the game more enjoyable.. for all players! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Dessy Posted June 1, 2021 Member ID: 22372 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 16 Topic Count: 63 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 634 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 721 Achievement Points: 6173 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 01/25/15 Status: Offline Last Seen: Wednesday at 08:19 PM Birthday: 06/12/1976 Device: Windows Share Posted June 1, 2021 all tho it is a good idea it also makes the spwn protect useless freezetag was the most fun when your down in a corner the other team putting presure on you but one or 2 smart players using the spawn protect to free their whole team a win like that is priceless. you talk about less skilled players maybe in killing but there are more skilled players using the spwn protect to unfreeze their team that knife cuts on both sides. ScRiPt3r, WeednFeed, ShadyBrady and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Ruggerxi Posted June 1, 2021 Member ID: 6 Group: ++++ Senior Admin Followers: 184 Topic Count: 2827 Topics Per Day: 0.53 Content Count: 11848 Content Per Day: 2.22 Reputation: 12906 Achievement Points: 106376 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 123 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 8 hours ago Birthday: 08/25/1976 Device: iPhone Author Share Posted June 1, 2021 This is only for kill streaks, not on death respawns Snow White, Wild Fire, baldie and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
BlackRose Posted June 1, 2021 Member ID: 2208 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 110 Topic Count: 304 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 3614 Content Per Day: 0.75 Reputation: 3925 Achievement Points: 37681 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 53 Joined: 02/09/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: Thursday at 10:42 PM Birthday: 06/09/1963 Device: Windows Share Posted June 1, 2021 killstreaks,,,hahaha they are for the weak,,hehehehe MikZzona, baldie and Snow White 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
major-mark63 Posted June 1, 2021 Member ID: 23233 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 21 Topic Count: 43 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2415 Content Per Day: 0.77 Reputation: 1899 Achievement Points: 19081 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 09/10/15 Status: Offline Last Seen: 20 hours ago Birthday: 08/11/1963 Device: Windows Share Posted June 1, 2021 And what about the death streaks thats all i can get LOL Super Max, VHS2, Kitsune and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
J3st3r Posted June 1, 2021 Member ID: 2162 Group: ++ COD4 Admin Followers: 153 Topic Count: 152 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 5084 Content Per Day: 1.05 Reputation: 5009 Achievement Points: 44636 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 22 Joined: 01/25/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: 6 hours ago Birthday: 02/26/1972 Device: Windows Share Posted June 1, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sikon said: I feel the rounds will be much shorter when this is implemented. Being that when a team is down to one or two players, they will not be able to get out of spawn to thaw team mates. Reduced Spawn protection when coming back from a kill streak not the spawn protection that you get when you respawn from being frozen @Sikon you Idiot lol. Edited June 1, 2021 by J3st3r AlphaDog, Snow White, babyback and 3 others 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Ruggerxi Posted June 1, 2021 Member ID: 6 Group: ++++ Senior Admin Followers: 184 Topic Count: 2827 Topics Per Day: 0.53 Content Count: 11848 Content Per Day: 2.22 Reputation: 12906 Achievement Points: 106376 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 123 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 8 hours ago Birthday: 08/25/1976 Device: iPhone Author Share Posted June 1, 2021 Anyone have any other feelings about the amount of spawn protection time? If not I will go forward with it tomorrow morning Snow White, baldie and AlphaDog 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sikon Posted June 1, 2021 Member ID: 27340 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 8 Topic Count: 80 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 717 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 605 Achievement Points: 5463 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 11/03/18 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 13 Birthday: 07/11/1980 Device: Windows Share Posted June 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Ruggerxi said: This is only for kill streaks, not on death respawns Oh okay, I miss understood. I thought both was being reduced. J3st3r 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Dessy Posted June 2, 2021 Member ID: 22372 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 16 Topic Count: 63 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 634 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 721 Achievement Points: 6173 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 01/25/15 Status: Offline Last Seen: Wednesday at 08:19 PM Birthday: 06/12/1976 Device: Windows Share Posted June 2, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, Ruggerxi said: This is only for kill streaks, not on death respawns but thats the same thing last guy goes in to the car or any streak uses the spwnprotect to unfreeze the players many mtimes i lost and won a game like that 5-4 in the sudden death a game like that is priceless but hey you must have many many complaints by these not so skilled players for willing to change someting that is there for a long time. you should make some t-shirts XI Not so good players lives Matter Edited June 2, 2021 by Dessy ShadyBrady, ScRiPt3r and VHS2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
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Snow White Posted June 2, 2021 Member ID: 11018 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 13 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 291 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 191 Achievement Points: 2427 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/30/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 1, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2021 (edited) Come play with me on the XI-UT2K4 Server... Death Match, Freeze Tag, Etc. I usually play around 8:00 pm EST, Most nights... It's a lot of fun to get away from COD4 once in awhile... Thank you Loco.. https://www.gametracker.com/server_info/149.56.146.64:7777 Edited June 2, 2021 by Snow White Sikon and ScRiPt3r 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AusiGirl Posted June 2, 2021 Member ID: 20712 Group: ++ COD4 Admin Followers: 40 Topic Count: 115 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 853 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 1002 Achievement Points: 8440 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 12/22/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 12 Birthday: 06/08/1972 Device: Windows Share Posted June 2, 2021 Lets give it a go! baldie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sitting-Duc Posted June 2, 2021 Member ID: 561 Group: ++++ Senior Admin Followers: 84 Topic Count: 502 Topics Per Day: 0.09 Content Count: 5334 Content Per Day: 1.01 Reputation: 4610 Achievement Points: 41339 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 29 Joined: 10/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Thursday at 06:33 PM Birthday: 04/06/1992 Device: Windows Share Posted June 2, 2021 9 hours ago, Ruggerxi said: Anyone have any other feelings about the amount of spawn protection time? If not I will go forward with it tomorrow morning 2.26 seconds? RobMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Ruggerxi Posted June 2, 2021 Member ID: 6 Group: ++++ Senior Admin Followers: 184 Topic Count: 2827 Topics Per Day: 0.53 Content Count: 11848 Content Per Day: 2.22 Reputation: 12906 Achievement Points: 106376 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 123 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 8 hours ago Birthday: 08/25/1976 Device: iPhone Author Share Posted June 2, 2021 The change has been made, it should take effect on the next map change Only after a killstreak, you will have only 2 secs of invisible spawn protection and combat medics will have 3 secs. Sourtap, MikZzona, baldie and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Kitsune Posted June 2, 2021 Member ID: 28144 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 32 Topic Count: 26 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1146 Content Per Day: 0.74 Reputation: 1417 Achievement Points: 28306 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 6 Joined: 01/31/20 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Can't wait to see how many people cry over this I don't get killstreaks so this won't affect me lmao baldie, Trailrtrash and J3st3r 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadyBrady Posted June 2, 2021 Member ID: 28695 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 241 Content Per Day: 0.21 Reputation: 360 Achievement Points: 3527 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/07/21 Status: Offline Last Seen: Thursday at 10:06 PM Device: Windows Share Posted June 2, 2021 Whoa whoa whoa... I know I'm still kind of new, but is this how you do things around here?! You posted this topic...21 hours ago??? Is that all the time you give for everyone to see your post and respond to it? I'm just seeing this now. This is a big change and I'd think you'd give at LEAST a few days for people to see the post and respond to it. Before I start my rant, let me preface with a few notes: 1. I am fully aware that the change you implemented ONLY affects spawn protection from killstreaks, NOT direct out of spawn at the beginning of the round or after being defrosted. 2. I use Combat Medic and am 99% sure* they do NOT get extra time added to killstreak spawn protection, ONLY direct out of spawn. For killstreaks, it is 5-6 seconds for everyone, no matter what perks you use (*please correct me if I'm wrong here). Okay, on to the rant... This is in response to Sikon's thread about nobody playing late at night ("Hello, Hi, How you doin'?!"). RobMC chimes in, saying many have left because the server has been overrun with hackers. He believes they can add extra time to spawn protection to help them get kills? (never heard that one before). Then Jester mentions how spawn protection after using the RC Car is part of the problem (WHAT???). TL;DR: Sikon: Hi! I can only play late at night, but nobody is on anymore. RobMC: There are too many hackers now. On top of seeing through walls, they can add time to spawn protection. :( Jester: Yeah spawn protection from RC car is the problem. We should get rid of it. Rugger: Cool. Will do. So to fix the hacking problem, you want to reduce spawn protection from killstreaks?! Stating the obvious here: this is a team game with an emphasis on defrosting your teammates and good communication. The team that defrosts and communicates better tends to win. This is why I use Combat Medic 99% of the time and spend most of the game looking for frozen teammates on my minimap to defrost (and yelling at everyone to "GET THE HELL OUT OF SPAWN!" lol). On top of using the RC Car and UAV Defroster to help with that, I will use spawn protection to run to a spot that allows me to defrost anyone deep in enemy territory. This is literally the reason there is a Combat Medic perk - to have that extra time to get further from spawn/into enemy territory to defrost teammates. Another benefit of having that extra spawn protection from killstreaks is being able to infiltrate enemy spawn to take out the campers. I feel like many of the people complaining about getting shot in the back are the ones camping spawn surrounded by bettys or clays, waiting for people to appear in their scope. IMO, the two go hand in hand. 18 hours ago, Dessy said: all tho it is a good idea it also makes the spwn protect useless freezetag was the most fun when your down in a corner the other team putting presure on you but one or 2 smart players using the spawn protect to free their whole team a win like that is priceless. ^THIS I'd ask everyone: if you're sitting there frozen and there's only one player still alive, who would you rather it be? The guy sitting in spawn, not moving, surrounded by enemies, waiting to get one last kill to pad his stats? Or the guy running his ass out of spawn, stealthily trying to defrost teammates to give you a second chance at winning the round? If you think making this change is going to somehow impact or lessen the hacking problem and bring people BACK to the server, I am sorry, but I beg to differ. It's only going to make it more frustrating to the players who are trying to help their team by getting to a safe place undetected to defrost teammates and take out campers. I vote to keep it as is. Oh wait...the voting is now closed. Izumi , VHS2, RobMc and 7 others 5 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Kitsune Posted June 2, 2021 Member ID: 28144 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 32 Topic Count: 26 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1146 Content Per Day: 0.74 Reputation: 1417 Achievement Points: 28306 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 6 Joined: 01/31/20 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 28 minutes ago, ShadyBrady said: Whoa whoa whoa... I know I'm still kind of new, but is this how you do things around here?! You posted this topic...21 hours ago??? Is that all the time you give for everyone to see your post and respond to it? I'm just seeing this now. This is a big change and I'd think you'd give at LEAST a few days for people to see the post and respond to it. Before I start my rant, let me preface with a few notes: 1. I am fully aware that the change you implemented ONLY affects spawn protection from killstreaks, NOT direct out of spawn at the beginning of the round or after being defrosted. 2. I use Combat Medic and am 99% sure* they do NOT get extra time added to killstreak spawn protection, ONLY direct out of spawn. For killstreaks, it is 5-6 seconds for everyone, no matter what perks you use (*please correct me if I'm wrong here). Okay, on to the rant... This is in response to Sikon's thread about nobody playing late at night ("Hello, Hi, How you doin'?!"). RobMC chimes in, saying many have left because the server has been overrun with hackers. He believes they can add extra time to spawn protection to help them get kills? (never heard that one before). Then Jester mentions how spawn protection after using the RC Car is part of the problem (WHAT???). TL;DR: Sikon: Hi! I can only play late at night, but nobody is on anymore. RobMC: There are too many hackers now. On top of seeing through walls, they can add time to spawn protection. :( Jester: Yeah spawn protection from RC car is the problem. We should get rid of it. Rugger: Cool. Will do. So to fix the hacking problem, you want to reduce spawn protection from killstreaks?! Stating the obvious here: this is a team game with an emphasis on defrosting your teammates and good communication. The team that defrosts and communicates better tends to win. This is why I use Combat Medic 99% of the time and spend most of the game looking for frozen teammates on my minimap to defrost (and yelling at everyone to "GET THE HELL OUT OF SPAWN!" lol). On top of using the RC Car and UAV Defroster to help with that, I will use spawn protection to run to a spot that allows me to defrost anyone deep in enemy territory. This is literally the reason there is a Combat Medic perk - to have that extra time to get further from spawn/into enemy territory to defrost teammates. Another benefit of having that extra spawn protection from killstreaks is being able to infiltrate enemy spawn to take out the campers. I feel like many of the people complaining about getting shot in the back are the ones camping spawn surrounded by bettys or clays, waiting for people to appear in their scope. IMO, the two go hand in hand. ^THIS I'd ask everyone: if you're sitting there frozen and there's only one player still alive, who would you rather it be? The guy sitting in spawn, not moving, surrounded by enemies, waiting to get one last kill to pad his stats? Or the guy running his ass out of spawn, stealthily trying to defrost teammates to give you a second chance at winning the round? If you think making this change is going to somehow impact or lessen the hacking problem and bring people BACK to the server, I am sorry, but I beg to differ. It's only going to make it more frustrating to the players who are trying to help their team by getting to a safe place undetected to defrost teammates and take out campers. I vote to keep it as is. Oh wait...the voting is now closed. This. 1000000x this. J3st3r and ShadyBrady 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deckard Posted June 2, 2021 Member ID: 1417 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 67 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 147 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 147 Achievement Points: 2116 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/15/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: 9 hours ago Birthday: 09/20/1965 Device: Windows Share Posted June 2, 2021 I just want the fuse put back on the SemTex grenade... Wake Up , Time To Die Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Ruggerxi Posted June 2, 2021 Member ID: 6 Group: ++++ Senior Admin Followers: 184 Topic Count: 2827 Topics Per Day: 0.53 Content Count: 11848 Content Per Day: 2.22 Reputation: 12906 Achievement Points: 106376 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 123 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 8 hours ago Birthday: 08/25/1976 Device: iPhone Author Share Posted June 2, 2021 (edited) @ShadyBrady I had plenty of people like the comment and message me, so I went ahead with it, if it doesn't work it's always an easy change back According to @Sammy the mod creator, combat medics get extra spawn protection time from killstreaks, I don't use combat medic so I don't know this for sure, I just go by the guy who created the mod Just give it a try for a couple maps and see how big of a change it is, before saying its going to make gameplay worse. You might like it. Edited June 2, 2021 by Ruggerxi RobMc and baldie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
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