Happy Canada day or Native Indigenous peoples day

[KaptCrunch]

This right here is a start of good things for world is chaging it ways against  indifferances  of creed 

i hope this new trend follows through with actions not blowing smoke to feather own nest. 

the world leaders needs to  respect others opinions and not shun/silent them  

let honour those souls lost every day,  not just one day for 

life is precious so let the love of life flow not the lust of evil of the past.

 

[RobMc]

This makes me laugh, aren't the native indigenous people 'Canadian'  ???????????

What is wrong with the world now by insisting everyone with a label (usually invented by them) is not part of the society of that country? Are you going to have Scottish, French, Slavic, Polish, Greek, Indian, Irish days etc etc etc.

No you're not, so do you not realise that labelling anyone like this puts them officially outside of general society, barking fucking mad we are now. They are and should be treated as Canadians, no different from other Canadians and welcomed as such.

This is a disease now in western society

ps this is politics and needs moving

[KaptCrunch]

rob can tell that your loosing control over  what i don't know 

Ps hit the report button you are free to do so  like those children 

in graves 

[PimpedOutPete]

Well done Crunch, Happy Canada Day everyone.

We have a lot to be grateful for in this nation. Like many other nations we also have a dark past which sadly has come to light of late. Today is a day to celebrate the pride and love we feel for our nation without forgetting the sins of our past.

Great post my friend. 

[PimpedOutPete]

1 hour ago, RobMc said:

This makes me laugh, aren't the native indigenous people 'Canadian'  ???????????

What is wrong with the world now by insisting everyone with a label (usually invented by them) is not part of the society of that country? Are you going to have Scottish, French, Slavic, Polish, Greek, Indian, Irish days etc etc etc.

No you're not, so do you not realise that labelling anyone like this puts them officially outside of general society, barking fucking mad we are now. They are and should be treated as Canadians, no different from other Canadians and welcomed as such.

This is a disease now in western society

ps this is politics and needs moving

Hey Rob, I think your missing the context to Crunches post. This nation is hurting this Canada day under the recent discoveries of unmarked graves of indigenous children who lived and then parished in the residential school system here in Canada. 

Some sins can never be forgotten. 

[RobMc]

1 hour ago, PimpedOutPete said:

Hey Rob, I think your missing the context to Crunches post. This nation is hurting this Canada day under the recent discoveries of unmarked graves of indigenous children who lived and then parished in the residential school system here in Canada. 

Some sins can never be forgotten. 

Ah, then my apologies I never saw that, they had much the same in Ireland recently, I thought they were saying in effect they were not true Canadians, which of course they are, trust me to get the wrong end of the stick.

[RobMc]

1 hour ago, KaptCrunch said:

rob can tell that your loosing control over  what i don't know 

Ps hit the report button you are free to do so  like those children 

in graves 

Sorry Kapt, now I know what you meant, Rob's never had much control anyway

[KaptCrunch]

NP Rob  apologies acepted   still love you 

[Labob]

IDK I do not think they want  be Canadian. I do believe they want us the non status Canadians to get off there land. I also do not believe nobody knew about these Graves. People and a lot of then knew about the Graves from the very beginning. The problem was nobody did anything about it. It's very sad. I do know hiding history's ugly past is a huge mistake. It's the best way to allow people to make the same mistake. I do know politicizing this issue is also a huge mistake.  Take lowering our flag for 215 days for those 215 unmarked Graves. Now what will they do for the thousand  other unmarked Graves? Raise the flags seems like a disrespectful act. Are all the other people in those unmarked graves not just as important as the first 215 ?  It's a mess 

[Labob]

Forgot P.S.

Do not get me going on the churches.  They have the paperwork on this. 

[RobMc]

Oh yes, the Catholic church, seems they turn a blind eye to a lot of things, see they're getting burnt, down but hey this is strange?

Statues of Queen Victoria and Queen Elizabeth II torn down in Canada - BBC News

Don't think it was their fault, careful or we'll send a gunboat, strange that this is not getting hardly any UK press?

[KaptCrunch]

"Our thoughts," the spokesman added, "are with Canada's indigenous community following these tragic discoveries and we follow these issues closely and continue to engage with the government of Canada with indigenous matters."

one word Rob.... Epstien sex island  exposed  like father graball at local church. this pratice been exposed after eons  of pedo's guild abuse 

 these sex junkies are the bane of existence of the earth 

why people praise leaders for just a wolf in sheep cloathing 

$atan is aways smiling with a knife hiden to stab you at any moment

[lTplkey336]

A side of all the negative vibes, I would like to wish all my Canadian friends a Happy Canadian Day ,  and all my US  friends a very happy  Independence day on the $th of July. Stay safe and have fun.  Its been a long year in 2020 , lets never forget those who have died , but celebrate those who have survived.

[KaptCrunch]

removed for the story has change and  proof of what was said was removed  off CBC site a canadain gov media site.

and  members are calling BS on the story 

just strange that happped  for i guess was a 

tactic to flush out the  vandalizers to charge them

sorry to upset anyone, guess i need to take screen shot from now on 

may peace be with you 

Edited July 4, 2021 by KaptCrunch
not a liar just fell in to a media trap. forgive me Yoshi

[Axe]

There are 1000's if not millions of unmarked graves in Canada.  Most 'pioneer' graves are lost to history.  Those indigenous graves are not mass pit graves ... as in some mass murder, they are graves lost to history because nobody really cared for those children.  That is the tragedy.  But now that the problem is politicized, there is no way out and no way to have any honest discussion about what really happened.  I hate that those children died alone and uncared for ... but I won't participate in the mass handwringing and guilt that some want to perpetually perpetrate on Canadians.

Far worse is the fact that Canada is now ruled by unelected, unaccountable and almost unnamable bureaucrats who have taken away our basic human rights and who answer, not to Canadians, but to some shadowy European 'health' organization (WHO.)  Further the little dicktator Trudeau will not hold elections till HE says the pandemic is over.  Canada is has lost her sovereignty and democracy can't save her because democracy was the 1st thing taken from us when Covid started.  I wear my Canada Flag patch upside down in public now as a symbol of distress.   

[Axe]

8 hours ago, KaptCrunch said:

Respect Mr JT  along time coming this. glad you told troops to stand down on this. hope the repect continues  on both side of this issue 

for unity concurs,  my brothers and sisters.

What about those Canadians that honour our history and don't want violent anarchist mobs tearing down our statues?  No respect for them in your world ... eh?  Unity is not allowing mob rule.  That's BS.  When the war comes, your team, the 'respect us while we tear down your statues' people will get their asses handed to them by the rural folk, the vets and the hard working people who are currently keeping this country afloat.

I'm not sure if we are supposed to do politics here, and if not, I'll happily delete these posts.  But until then I'll call out BS when I see it.

[KaptCrunch]

your free to do so by the three dots on your name bar on the right

Yoshi  

no commit for this was salated to come down  just like Sir John A McDonald

i guess i hit a sour not on the person mentioned in post. I do agree on the Vets.

Edited July 4, 2021 by KaptCrunch
too political

[KaptCrunch]

10 hours ago, Yoshi said:

There are 1000's if not millions of unmarked graves in Canada.  Most 'pioneer' graves are lost to history.  Those indigenous graves are not mass pit graves ... as in some mass murder, they are graves lost to history because nobody really cared for those children.  That is the tragedy.  But now that the problem is politicized, there is no way out and no way to have any honest discussion about what really happened.  I hate that those children died alone and uncared for ... but I won't participate in the mass handwringing and guilt that some want to perpetually perpetrate on Canadians.

Far worse is the fact that Canada is now ruled by unelected, unaccountable and almost unnamable bureaucrats who have taken away our basic human rights and who answer, not to Canadians, but to some shadowy European 'health' organization (WHO.)  Further the little dicktator Trudeau will not hold elections till HE says the pandemic is over.  Canada is has lost her sovereignty and democracy can't save her because democracy was the 1st thing taken from us when Covid started.  I wear my Canada Flag patch upside down in public now as a symbol of distress.   

correct for gov not a accountable to anything  Sorry Yoshi

that i fell for dicktator feathing his own nest and your 100 % correct.

Ps keep those thoughts off internet for men in white car with all windows darken may zap you for I spoke out on covid is man made not from bats  and post was stripped also cache off browser an notepad. Greed is root of all evil. take care for i'm recovering from covid 

Edited July 4, 2021 by KaptCrunch
free speach is a hoax north of the 49th parallel

[KaptCrunch]

are we doomed for basic instinct  not to share

 

 

[RobMc]

12 hours ago, Yoshi said:

Most 'pioneer' graves are lost to history.  Those indigenous graves are not mass pit graves ... as in some mass murder, they are graves lost to history because nobody really cared for those children.  That is the tragedy.  But now that the problem is politicized, there is no way out and no way to have any honest discussion about what really happened

Absolutely spot on, I've read what little I can over here but this is not the site of a massacre, could I remind everyone what the death rates for children were in this era. However this does not stop extremists using it for their own ends. As Yoshi correctly states there must be thousands if not tens of thousands of unmarked graves in America and Canada, all marked probably with wooden crosses which have perished. More extremist bullshit used by the press as a story to entertain.

[KaptCrunch]

BTW  just for you entertainment, don't shoot the messenger

Quote

TB was  eradicated in the '50s 

Proof that TB was contagious led to organized efforts to isolate those infected in sanatoria -- special hospitals where patients could rest and get fresh air and a good diet.

The "rest cure" was the most common treatment for TB until antibiotic treatment was developed in the 1950s.

 

earlier years yes just a wooden cross for no medical support.

as to current Killer Clown graves was no record or marker for what to hide if were innocent ? and  no death ceremony held, just a  sick world of deniers with a problem...just bury it like John Wayne Gacy. 

note '50s had abundance of writting material to record

actions speak louder than words.

who is the exorcist in this fable story

the backyard says alot for the real demon still walking as Bill Cosby walked out of his pen

 

 

Edited July 4, 2021 by KaptCrunch
jab at law today

[PimpedOutPete]

Hey Guys

First of I am of indigenous heritage, my mother is a survivor of the residential school system. Though I lost her to cancer at a young age she was able to share with me a few of her experiences. Its difficult to share those stories for no one wants to think that their loved one having to endure such pain. I wont mention these stories here but if you wish to learn of a few, please PM me. 

This is a part of history and a part of our fabric as a nation, dark as it may seem. Thousands of children died in residential schools and their bodies rarely returned home. Many were buried in neglected graves. Canada's residential school system forcibly took children from their families and placed them in institutions rife with physical, mental and sexual abuse. These were children, trusting little spirits who believed in their hearts that it would all work out and in the end tragically it did not. 

What makes me proud is how our schools today are treating this subject. I grew up learning of pioneers and settlers who endured their own hardships and earned their rightful places in our history. For the first time, schools are teaching more than what you can learn in a simple vignette about Canada.

https://www.todaysparent.com/family/parenting/these-quotes-from-residential-school-survivors-can-help-kids-and-parents-understand-their-experiences/

This is not a political subject guys, the outpouring of grief and pain this nation is experiencing is overwhelming at times. We have to provide the hope and the vision that we can learn from the past and as a country, never go back there. 

[RobMc]

I have pondered at length about our forefathers, were they naturally cruel through upbringing, naturally uncaring, oblivious to others anguish and pain etc etc. This was not just Canada it was the attitudes generally I think. God knows there must have been little mercy, light or sympathy in their souls, as Pete says to do this to children beggars belief, but it was common everywhere, girls put in asylums for getting pregnant, their babies taken from them etc etc. We often fondly remember them as being hardy folk, but there was a darker side to them that was hidden in history on lots of things. Have we improved? I'd say partly, but only in certain countries, slavery is still rampant, abuse of children in all manners still there, corruption and crime rampant throughout the world etc etc

Has it ever occurred to you if you have worked for criminals?, I'll bet you have at some point albeit unknowingly, their huge sums of laundered money go somewhere, and mainly into purchasing legitimate companies. Eventually they will control governments, countries and every ones lives, no different to the old pirates and slave traders who invested in land and factories and became rich, hence respectable.

[Labob]

Ok my view of this They are a conqured people. Just like every other conqured people they are forced to asimulate into the new society. I'm sure this was done in those days for reasons they thought sound. Times were different time were harsh. The goverment of then was, was it was. The goverment of today is one whole lot different. Nobody should think holding anybody from this day and age resoponsible for what happenned 125 yrears ago. But the indiginous people of today are using the past as a weapon to get what they want. They want todays goverment to change what happenned in the past. They want there land back as well and self governace . In my first sentance I said they are a conquered people. So and many has said this they are at war with Canada. What bothers me is the goverment is handling this with kids gloves. And treating them as fools. If you or me were to close a highway or block a road. Sell tax free ciggerettes to no status indians of tax free drugs or gas. We would be handcuffed and locked up so fast . And we know that because that against the law. Our goverment has decided to not inforce the law with the 1 st nation people. Including those who wish to be native and protest with the first nations. This is just wrong. You cannot solve a problem this big with that attitude towards people. This leads to what I am calling terrorision from some people 1st nation or other wise burning churches. This day and age in Canada a canadian attacks 6 churches you know there going for the terrorisiom charge. Will not happen here they will get a hug and some pity saying wee understand your feelings. 

28 minutes ago, PimpedOutPete said:

What makes me proud is how our schools today are treating this subject. I grew up learning of pioneers and settlers who endured their own hardships and earned their rightful places in our history. For the first time, schools are teaching more than what you can learn in a simple vignette about Canada.

This is how you do it. Sure Sir John A was an asshole but he was also a visionary . The church and I do not care what brand of church keep anazing records of everything they do EVERYTHING ! They do know the names and location of every grave they dug. I like what pete said education and laws that help protect the people who the goverment should protect. And not just with the firast nations. How many times has child health care giving some poor kid over to a family member who is a monster. Inforce the laws do not muddle them with misguided intentions. Because at my age I've lived within mile of first nation lands my hole life and they do not respect our laws. They do as they please and they know they will get away with it. I would also like to say this. Ask for your due from the goverment but take care of yourself as best you can. Do not blame somebody else for something you could of done yourself. I know I know but they live in the middle of nowhere and they relie on the goverment for assitance. Help yourself we all have to do this. Trying not to be rasict in this tread is a chore but our forfahters and there forefathers dragged them selves out of a hole and did some damm great things along teh way. Hiding history is not the correct way to do this. 

[KaptCrunch]

yes labob shine the light on the darkness. 

simple.

people taken for ride on land and greed takes over.

givers and takers. sell your soul