RobMc Posted October 14, 2022 Member ID: 25355 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 31 Topic Count: 257 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 5785 Content Per Day: 2.16 Reputation: 9114 Achievement Points: 63248 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 132 Joined: 12/14/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 10 Birthday: 01/05/1954 Device: Windows Share Posted October 14, 2022 39 minutes ago, bds1961 said: It’s was easy to politicize it when living in CA. When at its worse CA because of there policies had ships waiting off shore for up to 5 months to unload there cargo. The SF bay was a huge parking lot so they mandated they stay off shore till room opened up. In the mean time they were working over the truckers every way they could slowing down the whole process of unloading. And even now with all that went in there passing laws that will remove thousands of trucks from operation in CA when they are needed the most to distribute the cargo. All part of them wanting to go green with out think8ng is f the affect it has on our supply chain You are correct, there is a desperation to 'Go Green' despite the majority of the manufacturing world ignoring it entirely. They are just sitting back watching our costs rise, exports dwindle and people suffer, never mind now Gretas 19 and growing up there might be a common sense approach, ha ha. major-mark63, TheLastColdBeer and bds1961 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ COD4 Moderator Totty Posted October 14, 2022 Member ID: 30308 Group: + COD4 Moderator Followers: 7 Topic Count: 32 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 541 Content Per Day: 0.82 Reputation: 587 Achievement Points: 5454 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 07/02/22 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Birthday: 08/28/1973 Device: Linux + COD4 Moderator Share Posted October 14, 2022 3 hours ago, RobMc said: You are correct, there is a desperation to 'Go Green' despite the majority of the manufacturing world ignoring it entirely. They are just sitting back watching our costs rise, exports dwindle and people suffer, never mind now Gretas 19 and growing up there might be a common sense approach, ha ha. People are resurrecting old wood burners and open fires to burn wood they find on the roadside. The environment is the last thing on a lot of people's minds this year, with energy costs getting ridiculous RobMc, TheLastColdBeer and BUDMAN 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sammy Posted October 14, 2022 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 31 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 2.08 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 30, 2023 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Share Posted October 14, 2022 A raging epidemic that nobody could stop might have had a little something to do with how things went. But I suppose we could have done nothing and let the chips fall where they may. And if things go bad? Guess who gets blamed. Can’t win either way so might as well go for what you think is right even if others think you are wrong. For a long time we have been pretty fortunate with reasonable energy costs. And we the people got complacent with how much we used. That’s just how humans are. Take everything we want, not what we need. Some kind of sport I guess. Who can get the most shit for the least money, if any, wins the game. PimpedOutPete, BUDMAN and RobMc 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
RobMc Posted October 15, 2022 Member ID: 25355 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 31 Topic Count: 257 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 5785 Content Per Day: 2.16 Reputation: 9114 Achievement Points: 63248 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 132 Joined: 12/14/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 10 Birthday: 01/05/1954 Device: Windows Share Posted October 15, 2022 10 hours ago, Totty said: People are resurrecting old wood burners and open fires to burn wood they find on the roadside. The environment is the last thing on a lot of people's minds this year, with energy costs getting ridiculous Don't know whether it's true or not (I don't believe all I read) but apparently people are being fined in Europe for gathering wood. The argument is that all trees are owned by private citizens or the state, therefore you are stealing? If it gets real bad you'll have to guard your garden fences, interesting admission last week that the so called 'green' bio mass fuels, now used in power stations, are more polluting than coal, don't we just love 'experts'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastColdBeer Posted October 15, 2022 Member ID: 489 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 51 Topic Count: 547 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 4668 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 5849 Achievement Points: 41024 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 14 Joined: 09/22/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Sunday at 08:23 AM Birthday: 01/09/1963 Device: Kindle Fire Share Posted October 15, 2022 14 hours ago, RobMc said: Don't know whether it's true or not (I don't believe all I read) but apparently people are being fined in Europe for gathering wood. The argument is that all trees are owned by private citizens or the state, therefore you are stealing? If it gets real bad you'll have to guard your garden fences, interesting admission last week that the so called 'green' bio mass fuels, now used in power stations, are more polluting than coal, don't we just love 'experts'? Doesn't make sense to clear cut American forests to make wood pellets, then ship them to Europe to burn as biomass. Unless, you're in on the carbon credits & "renewables" game that the western governments play. They tried to get Africa to join in, but they told the greenies to piss off. None of the numbers add up to anything useful, especially with China, India, & Russia ignoring the new religion. RobMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
MISERY Posted October 18, 2022 Member ID: 27283 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 9 Topic Count: 31 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 50 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 167 Achievement Points: 858 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 09/27/18 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 23 Device: iPhone Share Posted October 18, 2022 Thats insane, no bueno!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sammy Posted October 19, 2022 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 31 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 2.08 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 30, 2023 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Share Posted October 19, 2022 Does that mean the various nations are wrong to try and do the green thing? Or are china and the other usual suspects wrong for not trying at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
RobMc Posted October 19, 2022 Member ID: 25355 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 31 Topic Count: 257 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 5785 Content Per Day: 2.16 Reputation: 9114 Achievement Points: 63248 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 132 Joined: 12/14/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 10 Birthday: 01/05/1954 Device: Windows Share Posted October 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, Sammy said: Does that mean the various nations are wrong to try and do the green thing? Or are china and the other usual suspects wrong for not trying at all? No, it means either they all do it or all ignore it, the current situation is that the largest polluters are doing nothing, while the others are trying at great cost. To put it in Rob terminology 'They are pissing against the wind, and paying heavily for it'. By the way Sammy the USA are one of the worst, but do try in certain sectors, China, Russia and India make no attempt at all, so they will always be cheaper, the only way to change this will be punishment. TBB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Posted October 19, 2022 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 31 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 2.08 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 30, 2023 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Share Posted October 19, 2022 I guess that means those countries, since they will do nothing, means everyone else should just fold. Pretty much says that they can say ‘no’, the rest of us follow what they say, and they rule. Some would say catch-22. Others would say it should be just like how you live your own life and do what you think is right. As opposed to giving in and not complaining about it. RobMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
RobMc Posted October 19, 2022 Member ID: 25355 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 31 Topic Count: 257 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 5785 Content Per Day: 2.16 Reputation: 9114 Achievement Points: 63248 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 132 Joined: 12/14/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 10 Birthday: 01/05/1954 Device: Windows Share Posted October 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Sammy said: I guess that means those countries, since they will do nothing, means everyone else should just fold. Pretty much says that they can say ‘no’, the rest of us follow what they say, and they rule. Some would say catch-22. Others would say it should be just like how you live your own life and do what you think is right. As opposed to giving in and not complaining about it. Pretty much, in a world wide problem if they don't all 'buy in' it's a waste of effort isn't it?, and that's the situation which is likely to remain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Posted October 19, 2022 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 31 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 2.08 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 30, 2023 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Share Posted October 19, 2022 I guess an issue, if you only do something when everyone agrees, those that say ‘no’ control everyone else. I guess it can be compared to having a house in a run down neighborhood. Do you fix up your own house even though others don’t? Knowing that it won’t make your neighborhood any better? Or do you throw your hands up? Or maybe try and sell at a discount. Maybe we should ask the martians if they want to pick up earth for cheap. As-is of course. RobMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
TBB Posted October 20, 2022 Member ID: 989 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 25 Topic Count: 263 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 18106 Content Per Day: 3.47 Reputation: 20116 Achievement Points: 132690 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 263 Joined: 01/07/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Birthday: 01/27/1946 Device: Windows Share Posted October 20, 2022 Keep this in mind Sikon, Sammy and RobMc 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
TheLastColdBeer Posted October 20, 2022 Member ID: 489 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 51 Topic Count: 547 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 4668 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 5849 Achievement Points: 41024 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 14 Joined: 09/22/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Sunday at 08:23 AM Birthday: 01/09/1963 Device: Kindle Fire Share Posted October 20, 2022 I'm all for the euthanasia solution. If your multiple mansion, jet setting, vineyard owning governor has you convinced you have offended gaia, by all means remove yourself from the equation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sammy Posted October 20, 2022 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 31 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 2.08 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 30, 2023 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Share Posted October 20, 2022 Just so there is no misunderstanding. There is something wrong with a governor, or higher, owning multiple mansions, jets, or vast amounts or property. Funny how people complain about rich politicians... except the ones they like. PimpedOutPete and TBB 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
TBB Posted October 20, 2022 Member ID: 989 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 25 Topic Count: 263 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 18106 Content Per Day: 3.47 Reputation: 20116 Achievement Points: 132690 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 263 Joined: 01/07/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Birthday: 01/27/1946 Device: Windows Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Sammy said: Just so there is no misunderstanding. There is something wrong with a governor, or higher, owning multiple mansions, jets, or vast amounts or property. Funny how people complain about rich politicians... except the ones they like. Talk to Al Gore about that - yeah right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sammy Posted October 20, 2022 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 31 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 2.08 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 30, 2023 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Share Posted October 20, 2022 Who? Wasnt he the guy that invented the Internet in the 60's or 70's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
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