Hawk

The listings have to stay within the occupancy code of the area, so they post max occupancy according to code.

Ok, the math is off on this one.........23 beds, sleeps 28.
3 king beds, 12 queen beds, 2 doubles and 5 singles 3+12+2+5=22.....not 23.
And if you figure
2 per king = 6
2 per queen = 24
2 per doubles = 4
5 singles = 5
That gives you 39 spots, not 28.  
 
That being said.....I am always one that says I am going to the next XI Fest, but I honestly don't know if I can make these dates work.  We already have a family vacation planned the second week of October (Columbus Day weekend), to the Dells.  That's where the kiddos wanted to go.  Plus, the kids are already back in school in October, so I may have to bow out of this one... 
Branson was an 8hour drive.  I could have made that one work.  This is an extra 4-5 hours and 300+/- miles.  
 
 

I'm in!
Good with either date.
Just need a place for Hogwash to hide out in.

Count us in! (Probably bringing a spare)
(The 20-23rd works best but either is fine)
~Hefe

Lets see who was at our last fest and hasn't commented here yet? @LtLaszlo @ICEMANXI @Raisin @bobbarker
@Syckle @MtDeW
 
and those who expressed interest @Hoth @Hawk @Bogleg @MordBlack @SGTSmeg @CrazyGirl @Bosun @B-Murda @PnBear @Demonio @Ov3rKi11 @BUDMAN @Chris @crimson and of course @Icequeen

Bourbonnaise isn't a bad place to be, you'll like it come spring & summer. For those of us born here, Illinois will forever be home, but can't for the life of me wonder why anyone would move TO Illinois. Taxes suck, gov sux, and all the things that made Illinois wonderful have left.

LIES!!!  I wanted to be at the last one and wasn't there.....  At least I "contributed to the delinquency" by sending alcohol  hahaha

LIES!!!  I wanted to be at the last one and wasn't there.....  At least I "contributed to the delinquency" by sending alcohol  hahaha

LIES!!!  I wanted to be at the last one and wasn't there.....  At least I "contributed to the delinquency" by sending alcohol  hahaha

If you want to be there.. You will.. And they make roads all the time... 😎

Depends on location.....want to make this one.  Someone has to keep Angus in check.....  🙂 

XIFests are the Bests! I’m in!!!! 
 

I don't have a problem being transparent about it......I voted old.  The new mod combined with the release of Modern Warfare is the reason I stopped playing on the server.  There is just something about the newer mod that I don't like. Actually a few things about it.  I've been one that has been vocal about it to some of the admins, not here on the forums, but on other platforms (WhattsApp).  I was and still am willing to give it a try, I just think the older mod runs more smoothly and isn't congested with all the "extra crap" in this mod.  One of the things that made the older games nice (in my opinion), is the fact that there weren't a buttload of options, perks, settings, whatever.  you just played.  Didn't need to bind extra keys to steal killstreaks, drop trophy systems, etc...  The movement on the newer mod is just clunky.  The old mod ran smoothly, and definitely felt quicker and more responsive.
 
Sammy, You do great work.  I just am not a fan of the newer mod.  BUT, that is only my opinion.  Being a past server admin of my old clan's server and helping tweak and run mods, I fully understand that you just can't please everyone.  Thank you for all your hard work trying to do just that.  

The point I was trying to make has nothing to do with the ACR, my point was the constant changes and people (members) not liking it, speaking up and getting ignored . I would say be happy with people that stand up and tell u in your face that we do not like something, instead of just leaving as well, like so many before us did. Anyways I feel your bitterness, and like i said nothing personal. I have made my good share (+5100 hours)of time in that server in your mods, all out of respect of the good work u delivered over years. And with this mod I can not get myself to like it or get used to it.

Why can't you just say your prefer the guns a certain away instead of being a condescending asshole? I had a conversation with another member on this recently. We agreed we could fully accept if there was a majority that wanted less accurate guns and there was a minority that didn't. Nothing I have seen suggests to me this is the case. 

People clearly liked the acr/saritch/smr. In my opinion as I've said countless times before we could have tried to improve some of the other guns to give people more of a choice and bring balance that way. That doesn't mean I want "zero-skill noob guns". ESC recently did this, good group of players. Your own bias has so badly clouded your vision on this you can't seem to see it any other way. Why are you right and the large percentage of us who like these so called "noob guns" wrong. Just because you say so? What makes a gun a "noob gun" or "unbalanced". Who gets to decide?

 

Here's the thing that I don't think you understand......some people play this game for it's simplicity.  If people wanted all the "extra stuff", people would start playing the newer games that actually have that stuff in it, because those games are better at it to begin with....  Did you ever think of it that way?

I don't have a problem being transparent about it......I voted old.  The new mod combined with the release of Modern Warfare is the reason I stopped playing on the server.  There is just something about the newer mod that I don't like. Actually a few things about it.  I've been one that has been vocal about it to some of the admins, not here on the forums, but on other platforms (WhattsApp).  I was and still am willing to give it a try, I just think the older mod runs more smoothly and isn't congested with all the "extra crap" in this mod.  One of the things that made the older games nice (in my opinion), is the fact that there weren't a buttload of options, perks, settings, whatever.  you just played.  Didn't need to bind extra keys to steal killstreaks, drop trophy systems, etc...  The movement on the newer mod is just clunky.  The old mod ran smoothly, and definitely felt quicker and more responsive.
 
Sammy, You do great work.  I just am not a fan of the newer mod.  BUT, that is only my opinion.  Being a past server admin of my old clan's server and helping tweak and run mods, I fully understand that you just can't please everyone.  Thank you for all your hard work trying to do just that.  

So, @Sammy, I for one know what it takes to create a mod, to tweak a mod, to run a server, etc...  I've been doing it from the Return to Castle Wolfenstein days, up to and including Call of Duty 5: World at War.  This is prior to me joining XI.  I get it.  It's a ton of work.  It's a SHIT TON of time.  It will always come with criticism.  The best way to avoid that criticism is to ask in advance what people want in the mod, before putting a ton of time developing it.  You will NEVER make everyone happy.  That's just a fact of life.

Here's the thing...I don't recall ever being "asked" for suggestions on what to add to the server.  Was there ever a post by you or anyone for that matter, stating that you were going to start working on a new mod and you needed input?  Did you ever ask people what they wanted to see in the mod, if they wanted the "extra shit" (as you put it), what gun changes they want, what game play changes they suggest, etc...?  Did you?  Because I know, I was on the server almost every day for hours on end prior to the new mod, and I was never asked.  Maybe you did.  I don't remember seeing it, being told about it, but I also did not check the site as often as I should have either.  I was asked to help "test" the new mod on a couple occasions.  Even during the testing phase, I did not like it.  Mostly because all of the "extra shit" messed with the game play.  It felt clunky.  It still does for me.  That's why I don't like playing on the server.  I do enjoy the old mod immensely.  However, two jobs, coaching my daughter's softball and playing newer games that are designed with all the extra stuff in mind, have taken me away from CoD4.
Speaking about that "extra shit", this game was not designed with all that "extra shit" in mind.  It was never an option on the game.  People started implementing them in mods when those items started appearing in newer games.  Problem with implementing those into this mod is that THIS GAME IS NOT DESIGNED FOR ALL THE EXTRA SHIT!  It affects the game play adversely.  It is extremely noticeable when you jump from the newer mod into the older mod.  The older mod is super smooth.  It has SOME of the extra stuff, but not all of it.  There is just too much extra stuff, and I fear it bogs down the game.  That may be why people don't like it.  If they want all the extra stuff, they'll most likely go to a game that has it, was designed to have it and runs smoothly because it was designed to have it.

Why?  Was there an advertisement on the server when the newer mod was running on the other server?  I don't recall ever seeing one....

Hey, all!  Lots of exciting things are happening in the COD4 realm right now  
Make sure you check out the poll located in the COD4 Club discussion regarding which version of the MW2 mod you'd like to see on the main server.  Please vote if you want your opinion to count 🙂 
If you are looking for something different, there's something for everyone!
We have a knife only server up, for those of you who like close combat knife fighting.  There is a server running a team deathmatch (no freezetag) mod,  and we have the DM mod that is free-for-all with a faster speed and higher jump height which makes for a fun style of game play.  There are also servers running with the old mod, MW2 146b9, and an anti-bunny hopping one.  And the main attractions, our very popular MW2 and g13 freezetag servers, are always there as well.
So if you need something new, we highly recommend that you come see what's new - looking forward to seeing you all in game! 

Shocking.....Of course you did.  Wouldn't expect anything less. Haha

So, @Sammy, I for one know what it takes to create a mod, to tweak a mod, to run a server, etc...  I've been doing it from the Return to Castle Wolfenstein days, up to and including Call of Duty 5: World at War.  This is prior to me joining XI.  I get it.  It's a ton of work.  It's a SHIT TON of time.  It will always come with criticism.  The best way to avoid that criticism is to ask in advance what people want in the mod, before putting a ton of time developing it.  You will NEVER make everyone happy.  That's just a fact of life.

Here's the thing...I don't recall ever being "asked" for suggestions on what to add to the server.  Was there ever a post by you or anyone for that matter, stating that you were going to start working on a new mod and you needed input?  Did you ever ask people what they wanted to see in the mod, if they wanted the "extra shit" (as you put it), what gun changes they want, what game play changes they suggest, etc...?  Did you?  Because I know, I was on the server almost every day for hours on end prior to the new mod, and I was never asked.  Maybe you did.  I don't remember seeing it, being told about it, but I also did not check the site as often as I should have either.  I was asked to help "test" the new mod on a couple occasions.  Even during the testing phase, I did not like it.  Mostly because all of the "extra shit" messed with the game play.  It felt clunky.  It still does for me.  That's why I don't like playing on the server.  I do enjoy the old mod immensely.  However, two jobs, coaching my daughter's softball and playing newer games that are designed with all the extra stuff in mind, have taken me away from CoD4.
Speaking about that "extra shit", this game was not designed with all that "extra shit" in mind.  It was never an option on the game.  People started implementing them in mods when those items started appearing in newer games.  Problem with implementing those into this mod is that THIS GAME IS NOT DESIGNED FOR ALL THE EXTRA SHIT!  It affects the game play adversely.  It is extremely noticeable when you jump from the newer mod into the older mod.  The older mod is super smooth.  It has SOME of the extra stuff, but not all of it.  There is just too much extra stuff, and I fear it bogs down the game.  That may be why people don't like it.  If they want all the extra stuff, they'll most likely go to a game that has it, was designed to have it and runs smoothly because it was designed to have it.

I love freezetag, always have and always will, but sorry @Sammythis mod is the worst of them all. I know we always had an opinion about new mods over the years. The worst grief you got was about the ACR that you took away. But in the end we coped with it, dealt with, lost some players with each newer version, but the true players stayed gave it a chance and accepted it. Is it such a bad thing to for once agree and face it that this mod lost the most true ft players (XI members) then all previous mods and that it is not in the liking????? You can say that they moved on to newer games, and maybe they have. But why now???? Why not 2…3…4 years ago?It seems only a few of us (caring about cod4ft and trying to keep it alive) are not wearing blindfolds. About transparancy yes i voted for the old mod, i like that mod! Whatever is going to be decided. If the new mod stays, i won’ t show up any more till another/better version comes in place. Thanks for ur time and effort Sammy, nothing personal. It is just this mod.

Of course. Which is also what is happening. Happens to every game and this is not a difficult concept. Players are leaving CoD4 in general. As you said, not because they may not like a particular thing but because newer games often do it better. For one they can work on the basic source code. Modders can only work with what we've got and improvise.
So as for 'better at it', well, there is of course much truth to that. Except that in modding everything can be changed to suit our own tastes. And in this case, up to Rugger (and nobody else) to change things to suit the server. You might like a change. You might not like a change. But the fact of the matter is, it CAN be changed and people can argue about it and change it again.
Oh, and yes I always asked for and welcomed input. But in the end the final decision as the developer was me and nobody else. Sometimes a choice, after a good deal of gameplay, did not work out as well as I would have liked. You are correct nobody asked for a new version. As I posted earlier, my mistake... which I wont ever again... was making this a clan mod (post 145). Instead I should have just made it up, added as many server config options as workable, and provided the server packages to anybody that wanted it. Download it and adjust things to your liking.
When its done, almost is, the next 147 server package will be made available to anybody that wants it. Sans freezetag. If interested and you want it, let me know.

Here's the thing that I don't think you understand......some people play this game for it's simplicity.  If people wanted all the "extra stuff", people would start playing the newer games that actually have that stuff in it, because those games are better at it to begin with....  Did you ever think of it that way?