Well this is interesting...

[Blaze]

I appreciate that for some this can be a delicate subject, so please be assured I am not meaning to offend anyone, but I think that the truth is far more important than not hurting someone's feelings... especially when the costs are so high.

 

So I have seen some videos on youtube about Sandy Hook being a hoax or a false flag event and I was just absolutely dismissive of it (although I firmly believe that 9/11 and London 7/7 bombings were the respective governments cunducting false flag events). However, I watched a video of a Freedom Of Information Act hearing regarding requests pertinent to Sandy Hook December 14th 2012.

 

What makes it interesting is the benality of the requests that are being obfuscated:

Documentation on maintenance of the school in the year prior to the shooting.

Documentation on who ordered the porta loos and when were they ordered.

Transcripts of the radio communications from Trooper 1 helicopter

Documentation on the "Everybody must check in" road sign, including who ordered it and when? A copy of the check in list?

 

These are just some of the requests, but they are basic information that should in no way be exempt from FOIA requests and yet they have not been released, hence the hearings. A strongly suggest you look up Wolfgang Halbig, he is a school safety consultant, an ex school inspector, an ex teacher, an ex state trooper, an ex serviceman. He was an expert consultant on the Columbine shootings, so this guy knows what he is talking about and wants to make sure this doesn't happen again.

 

Anyway... to the point. I did some digging myself and as far as I know, nobody has yet pointed this out, or noticed this evidence, but the only two death certificates released from the Sandy Hook shootings are that of Adam Lanza and Noah Samuel Pozner. I decided to look at these to see if everything checked out and I discovered that the Registrar's signature in each document (although positioned differently and slightly rescaled) is identical on each document. Not similar, identical. I don't know if I have ever signed my name the same way ever, maybe similar, but not so they would overlay exactly.

Anyway, here are the images i made for comparison so you can make your own mind up. Whether you think Sandy Hook happened or not, this is worth further investigation.

 

This one is the death certificates over each other with the form boxes alligned so you can see the sizing is correct. ( I had to resize one of them as the images were slightly different sizes, but once it was scaled down 75% it fit perfectly)

 

 

Next is the two certificates alligned at the Registrar's signature, you can see quite clearly that the signature is the same. A little bolder, but that happens when documents are scanned by different machines and uploaded at different qualities.

 

 

Lastly is just the signature overlayed for clarity.

 

 

So regardless of what you think about Sandy Hook, these documents are clearly forgeries as the Registrar has to sign the document to make it valid. This is not something that can be stamped or digitally signed, it has to be signed by the registrar with a pen. The only possible explanation is that the signature has been added digitally from a previous copy of the swignature, but as these two documents have the signature overlapping the printed text, it has to have been taken from a 3rd document and digitally added to both. If so, why add them at awkward positions other than to deliberatley make it look like the  signatures are done naturally.

 

You can also see that signatures change with each iteration by comparing them to the signature on the left side of the registrar (written vertically) because this signature is visibly different. Also, the Chief Medical Examiner's signature is different between the two documents as would be expected.

If this needs to be moved to the political section, please could you add me to that section so I can see it.

[hxtr]

Very interesting Topic Blaze. Great info!!!!!!

Show we go into lots of evidence outside your post?

I love how this Crisis Actor.. I mean father that just lost a child that day is laughing and corrects himself just before going on camera. 

This was a FEMA government false flag event. 

 

 

[hxtr]

[Blaze]

This is the guy to watch! He is Wolfgang Halbig and he is asking some very basic questions which are not being answered.

 

[Blaze]

Part II

 

[Crusher]

Well, by looking at the signature, you can tell it's a rubber stamp. Persons who fill out umpteen docs all day get them. This is no big deal as this person is just a witness at the registrars office. This person is doing nothing but verifying what the medical examiner signed.  It's all legal when the state seal is embossed on the document from the notary.

[Sammy]

Back in the day kings and popes would use a personal emblem with either ink or wax. Usually on a ring. Maybe they still do.

[hxtr]

Well, by looking at the signature, you can tell it's a rubber stamp. Persons who fill out umpteen docs all day get them. This is no big deal as this person is just a witness at the registrars office. This person is doing nothing but verifying what the medical examiner signed.  It's all legal when the state seal is embossed on the document from the notary.

Possibly but dig deeper. You will find some very strange things. I was fooled by this event. My eyes were stuck on CNN and Fox at the time. CNN did most of the coverage. Ill try to post some good examples. 

 

Here  is a start.. Badges.. for everyone on the set. This was a Hollywood Movie set in a way. Everyone involved had a badge. 

 

Part II

 

Very telling.. what are they hiding. Did they send them kids to the Super Bowel .. yes.. all kinds of crazy payoff shit. 

 

This is the guy to watch! He is Wolfgang Halbig and he is asking some very basic questions which are not being answered.

 

I have watch both a couple times... to make sure I seen what I see. 

 

For anyone that can't see.. Eyes wide shut. Time to see the Matrix for what it is. 

 

For much of my research in the start I focused on FEMA. How they showed up the day before 911 and a week before this event.. both times to do drill of the very thing that happened. 

 

This goes into that well... it is easy to see when you can take the goggles off and realized we have all been fooled. 

 

[Blaze]

Well, by looking at the signature, you can tell it's a rubber stamp. Persons who fill out umpteen docs all day get them. This is no big deal as this person is just a witness at the registrars office. This person is doing nothing but verifying what the medical examiner signed. It's all legal when the state seal is embossed on the document from the notary.

According to the SELECTED STATUTES & RULES: NC LOCAL HEALTH DIRECTOR’S RESPONSIBILITY FOR DECEDENTS : section 130A-115. Death registration. ©

 

When specifically approved by the registrar, an electronic signature or facsimile signature of the Physician, Physician Assistant or Nurse Practitioner is acceptable ONLY in cases where the death is due to natural causes.

 

The Registrar is the important signature and the one who's signature makes it a legal document, it has to be an actual signature.

[Blaze]

As a side note...in the UK, the registrar has to sign with special ink only available to them to prevent forgery.

[Blaze]

As an addition, if the signature was rubber stamped (which would not be allowed) why would the signature on the left be different? Why rubber stamp one and not the other if you have to sign two different areas of a document? You would just stamp both.

[FUNky]

The signature certainly looks like a rubber stamp to me. I'm curious as to why you believe that a stamp is not acceptable. I work in government and there are no requirement or regulation that requires Clerks to use a pen to sign documents for them to be "Official". That would be impossible, even in small jurisdictions because of the sheer volume of paper that flows through. If you can cite a regulation or policy that supports your assertion, I would love to see it. Believe me, just like the military, EVERYTHING  is listed somewhere in an SOP manual. 

 

hxtr why is it not possible that the people in the photos aren't employees of the school system or simply parents that rushed to the school when word got out. I wear photo identification all day everyday. I'm sure the last thing I would think about is removing my ID badges if I heard something like this were happening and my loved one was there. 

 

I'm not telling you what to believe but I just don't buy it. 

[Blaze]

I have emailed the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner in Newtown for clarification on whether signature stamps are allowed when it comes to Registrar's signatures on death certificates or if a proper signature must be obtained and whether a witness to the signature is necessary.

I'm sure any response will be interesting.

 

 

I haven't seen anywhere it be stated that a stamp is acceptable and it seems odd that acceptability of signature stamps would be outlined in the document I quoted without listing the Registrar as one of those allowed parties, if it were the case.

Edited January 20, 2017 by Blaze

[Tron]

There is no fucking way an event with that many people there could be a complete hoax and not eventually have someone come forward to confirm the hoax or have someone post a video made with their cell phone showing evidence of a hoax. There were also children there. Some kid at some point would have said something they shouldn't have to confirm the existence of a hoax. I suppose you guys also think the Apollo moon landing was a fake as well?

 

 

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[hxtr]

Are we talking about how Canadians fuck Animals? 

[Blaze]

I haven't said hoax, false flag or cover up!

I am asking why these documents have been made by dishonest methods?

I am asking why basic documentation, not exempt from FOIA requests are being withheld?

[HarryWeezer]

I haven't said hoax, false flag or cover up!

I am asking why these documents have been made by dishonest methods?

I am asking why basic documentation, not exempt from FOIA requests are being withheld?

 

Who cares?

 

Bottom line: On Dec. 14, 2012, Adam Lanza fatally shot 20 children between six and seven years old, as well as six adult staff members at Newtown, CN. If you don't believe that, you've got a screw loose.

[Blaze]

Why was Sandy Hook victim Noah Pozner also a victim of the Peshawa school shooting in Pakistan?

 

 

[Blaze]

If you "don't care" that public documents are being withheld from the public without good reason, then you have a screw loose! The Freedom Of Information Act is there for a reason!

[Blaze]

And just to clarify, at no point did I say that nobody died at Sandy Hook, or that a tragedy didn't take place.

[Tron]

Why was Sandy Hook victim Noah Pozner also a victim of the Peshawa school shooting in Pakistan?

 

 

Well the most likely explanation I would put forth, is that since his picture was widely circulated online after Sandy Hook, the people in Pakistan had access to it and used it ...perhaps to inflate the death toll in this shooting. Maybe they were too dumb to realize these images would be circulated worldwide online. Also, can you confirm those images showing his picture being used were not created using Photoshop?

 

 

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[Blaze]

@@Tron I agree, absolutely they could use a photo of a child and claim they died in that tragedy when in fact they did not! I think it's funny when people accept that for Pakistan, but blindly reject the possibility that it could happen in America!

[Tron]

@@Tron I agree, absolutely they could use a photo of a child and claim they died in that tragedy when in fact they did not! I think it's funny when people accept that for Pakistan, but blindly reject the possibility that it could happen in America!

I don't"blindly reject" the possibility that something like that could happen here. There is no doubt our FedGov has definitely been involved in false flags and other criminal activity. Just read the book "Legacy of Ashes" and you will realize how corrupt the CIA is. My points were simply based on the circumstances and highly dubious probability that Sandy Hook was some kind of grand "false flag" hoax where no children actually died. The evidence does not support such a hypothesis. Are there screwy details surrounding the post-shooting investigation and evidence...ok sure maybe there are. But given the sheer number of people that were there that day...I say pulling off such a hoax is literally impossible to do without evidence it was a hoax eventually surfacing.

 

 

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[Damage_inc-]

this is crazy

[Blaze]

It's actually surprising how few people would have go be in on it. Just look at the accounts of police and EMTs who turned up and we're left stood around doing nothing because they weren't allowed anywhere near the school.

 

Not one EMT was allowed in the school!

 

No parents of school children other than victims are ever interviewed (except one or two) when 600 + children should be there. It should be a media frenzy for interviews with survivors and fame whores!

 

The families of the victims all moved in to sandy hook within the same time frame and all moved out after within the same time frame.

 

Look at how much money (from the government, not just charitable donations) has been pumped in to sandy hook since and ask yourself if Columbine got the same treatment? Also, would a corrupt school board with a ruined school go along with a lie where nobody had to die in exchange for a new $50 million school and further funds for town improvements? Any discussions go along the lines of "National Security", none disclosures signed. Some people would consider it patriotic to take part, in a twisted kind of way. People who believe guns should be taken away from citizens would be easily persuaded to take part. "Hey, why wait for another Columbine...we could fake one so nobody has to die and we end up with all the anti gun lobby benefits." Why would anyone who thinks like that admit to taking part in a lie when admitting it wasn't true would damage their core belief's cause and entire reason for doing it?

Edited January 22, 2017 by Blaze