ty for your suggestions, I really appriciate them, but problem is I have already tried them. Here is what I've tried so far.. : Down loading PB setup/updating game, uninstalling Pbsetup and re-installing and updating game, running game as admin - which made me create new character and re-download maps, the only thing I haven't tried is un-installing / re-installing game. Wasn't there some file in the Activison - COD 4 files that we deleted to solve this issue ? Anyways, any other help would be appriciated.. ty again HAMMER.... ( guess I need to take my cheap ass down and buy BF 3 that I whined about being released for 5 years...