an educational post jaka2face.....we here, dont engage in the actual usage of such things, BUT, they do exist and there is a way......here however, fair game play is the rule of the day....but, thanks for sharing the additional knowledge of how it could be done....i thought you might know......i just hate to see a mass exodus of virtually....and i think it was pretty much everyone on a server i play with on nightly, either enter spectate or leave, cussing you, complaining, lookin for an admin... this is a good group of solid players who know when somthing is up.... these are people on good servers, who play and pay to have fun and keep it going.......dont mess it up....of course there is a chance im/we are all wrong, and your the best player any of us have ever seen........in that case your way too advanced for any of us here, and i sincerely apolgize.......Love Venery