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When I was in Canada I asked to get a bend and cough check up. Took no more than 5 minuets to be seen. Oh Hxtr, brothels don't count as doctor's offices. Lmao, and for the record brothels ARE NOT covered by healthcare Knowing Hx, he most likely claimed it to his HMO... putz!

This only happens when a certain procedure in Canada is considered "cosmedic" or the procedure isnt offered in Canada at all. Cosmedic surgery is paid for out of pocket here in Canada. Then usually if that cosmedic procedure is cheaper in the USA, then yes travelling we will go. But if it wasnt a cosmedic procedure and covered by our health system i see no reason why a Canadian would travel to the USA for healthcare. Then I guess heart surgery is considered "costmetic" and Newfoundland premier Danny Williams wanted it done by the best in the US. It's funny Steve, this story is used over and over by individuals on both sides of the border to argue against universal care when in reality it has nothing to do with it. Do you know the true circumstances behind why he sought care in the US? I don't know all the facts but I recall that Premier Williams is a very independently wealthy individual who wanted the best care from a specific cardiac physician who just happened to practice in the US. Now Premier Williams could have had this care and procedures done in Toronto with no waiting period but he chose care from this particular Doctor.This is just like you and I, you may drive across a city to see your doctor rather than the one down the street. So this is no a question of care but rather certain media outlets misinforming the public to justify their own political desires. Yep I know the story Terry. He needed a valve replacement and he couldn't have it done in Canada without them cracking his ribs and chest open with a long recovery period. He found a cardiac doctor in Florida that could do it with a 2 inch incision under his arm. I'm not blaming the guy for doing it, but to say that Canadians "only" cross the border for medical procedures for cosmetic reasons is just plain wrong. Yes we pay through the nose down here but I can be in practically any US city and get immediate state of the art medical care. There is something to be said for that. That's correct, some Canadians do cross the border for more than just cosmetic procedures and I also agree that there is something to be said about a country that can offer procedures such as these. As I said before, Williams could have had the exact procedure done in Toronto with little to no wait but he chose to go to the US. Yes, the norm for cardiac care on both sides of the border is more evasive which he chose not to take. Like yourself Steve, I'm not critical of either system on this subject but when pundits use this case as ammo when in reality they are only lying to you to make their point. Being in Healthcare giving me a prospective that most don't get to see and I'm just as critical of the holes in this system as I was of my years in the US. I only do this so we could both improve our care, nothing more. Good post Guys.

This only happens when a certain procedure in Canada is considered "cosmedic" or the procedure isnt offered in Canada at all. Cosmedic surgery is paid for out of pocket here in Canada. Then usually if that cosmedic procedure is cheaper in the USA, then yes travelling we will go. But if it wasnt a cosmedic procedure and covered by our health system i see no reason why a Canadian would travel to the USA for healthcare. Then I guess heart surgery is considered "costmetic" and Newfoundland premier Danny Williams wanted it done by the best in the US. It's funny Steve, this story is used over and over by individuals on both sides of the border to argue against universal care when in reality it has nothing to do with it. Do you know the true circumstances behind why he sought care in the US? I don't know all the facts but I recall that Premier Williams is a very independently wealthy individual who wanted the best care from a specific cardiac physician who just happened to practice in the US. Now Premier Williams could have had this care and procedures done in Toronto with no waiting period but he chose care from this particular Doctor.This is just like you and I, you may drive across a city to see your doctor rather than the one down the street. So this is no a question of care but rather certain media outlets misinforming the public to justify their own political desires.

No we pay, through taxes which is way better then up front costs! Yup, you pay for your neighbors healthcare through taxes & they will pay for yours.... Right? Why not just pay for yourself? All American needs is healthy competition in all insurance & healthcare providers and the price will come down. No need to have a third party (Gov. Officials) to decide who pays, is there? Oh well... It all sounds good until you can't get permission for care.... Government permission? I'm curious who says anyone needs that...

I'm always perplexed by these types of conversations. We spend more time defending our healthcare when in reality we should be learning from each other. Most Canadians feel a sense of national pride when it comes to universal care but its bot perfect. There is room for improvement, and If we can learn a new trick or two from the UK or the French, then so be it.

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Welcome to the group

Happy birthday

You mean "Bull Fucking Shit".... don't you Kamikaze?...lol

Dam Steve, that means I have to wait another 22 years before I get my surgery...Hahahaha Good one buddy!

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Whore it up u slut! Lol congrats

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Good grief... A French Canadian Whore! You alone will make me a lot of money!! Great job!

That's good news Tom.. Treat that girl like the queen which I know u can...

Typical of us Canadians, polite to a fault...lol http://video.ca.msn.com/watch/video/road-rage-in-canada/2gv66yw6c?from=en-ca-quad

Have a great day Greg! Happy birthday buddy!

Happy Birthday!

Happy Birthday Buddy! Cheers

Happy Birthday Buddy! Cheers

lol.. Hey Dean.. Look at one of my aliases...

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I have no issues with anyone owning a gun or having to use them for personal protection. You do what is needed to keep you and your loved ones safe. Maybe someday Frag I may have to change my mind and own a personal weapon. I have to say I am lucky and grateful to live in an area where that type of security is not the norm, but things always do change. Good post guys..

I Totally agree, but networks are driven by rating and sponsorship money. They rather tailer the news to a percentage of the audience than to be honest and impartial...