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    UK out of the EU

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    That is wrong as they promised after the last referendum to never raise the issue of independence again and as soon as they voted to remain part of the UK they started again.......... Besides Europe WILL NOT have them and they couldn't afford the membership fee, Other coutries has been trying to gain entry to the EU for years, what makes Scotland any different or special?. The Scottish National Party are a joke and need to be reminded of the pledge they made before the last vote took place. Before anyone starts to have a dig, I am SCOTTISH and also BRITISH and proud to be part of the UK. I certainly didn't spend almost 30 years of my life serving Queen and Country to have this discussion yet again............... SCOTS voted once they need to have their decision respected and not forced upon them once again because the SNP (clue is in their name) didn't get the result they wanted the last time!!!!!

    Promises? If we're talking promises then we could discuss the promise that "the only way to guarantee Scotland's continued membership in Europe is to vote No" in said referendum - a point that was laboured heavily here, and in no small way contributed to a vote for the status quo.

     

    Yet lo and behold, here we are, 18 months later - being dragged out of Europe despite a huge majority of Scots voting against the move. Broken promises cut both ways.

     

    Do the Scots hate the rest of the UK? Fuck no. Do we hate being pulled around on wild jingoistic adventures like this because there happen to be too few of us to influence the collective regardless of how we vote? Hell yes.

    UK out of the EU

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    You're making an assumption that Scotland would be applying to join the EU as a new country. There's every likelihood that an independent Scotland would now be able to inherit some part of the UK's existing (and otherwise soon to be abandoned) membership.

    Don't forget, Scot's are EU citizens right up until the UK concludes Section 50 of the treaty of Lisbon - meaning there is now time for serious negotiation in the clear knowledge that England/Wales (with a few regional exceptions) have decided they want to leave - though not as strongly (per head of capita) as Scots said they wanted to stay.

    I can imagine the EU being quite keen to cut such a deal in order to retain strong links with the part of the UK with all the valuable natural resources.

    The 2014 Independence referendum was lost in large part by the threat of that Scotland would have an uncertain future in Europe in the event of independence. At this stage, and with no lack of irony, the exact opposite is the case - it is now 100% CERTAIN that Scotland's future lies separate from Europe unless they actively pursue a deal with the EU to take effect following a 2nd, this time successful vote for independence.

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