Sniff sniff thanks Brotrinde that always brings a tear to my eyes, especially as two of Englands greats are not with us anymore, Bobby Moore and man of the match Alan Ball. RIP lads, England will never forget. It definately was one of the better world cup finals and not to forget two great up and coming German players in that match like the great Beckenbaur and Overath, both fantastic players and others like Haller, Weber, Tilkowski, Schnellinger, and oops nearly forgot another German great Uwe Seeler. As to your other point Brotrinde we have at last the manager in Capello who may just get the best out of these players you mention, this country will explode if we win it, it's been so long, and of course we could meet you in the second round.