I did'nt say i left because i thought it was unfair Shanman, the game is never gonna be fair in that respect what with different ping rates better pc's etc, non of that stuff bothers me, but i can remember a time in cod5 when no one had or no one used grenade launchers, maybe because they had'nt earned them at the time and it did seem a long time before anyone started using them but now they seem to be used by quite a lot of people and as i said before you don't actually have to get hit by one to get killed they only have to explode near you but a bullet has to hit you to cause damage, look as i said it was brought to the forum by Chile who uses one a lot, he asked the question, if we don't get rid of them thats ok i mainly go on the server for the chat anyway, it' all about opinions.