Shamu Posted February 18, 2011 Member ID: 715 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 8 Topic Count: 418 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 2178 Content Per Day: 0.38 Reputation: 1183 Achievement Points: 16606 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/09/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2023 Birthday: 11/04/1943 Posted February 18, 2011 I am a retiree from the Budd Company, Philadelphia Plant. This video is about the closing of the Budd Detroit plant and a promo for the book Punching Out which I have just ordered from Amazon. It covers the last year of the plant. For me the video is depressing, my time at Budd was wonderful and provided me with a good living. I lost my job at 52 years of age but thankfully had attained over 30 years service for retirement purposes. I was also able to find future employment because of the connections I had made while at Budd. I owe a lot to the Budd Company and the UAW and completely regret having been part of a plant closing. I wish I could still have been working there. The video is pretty much the same as what happened in Philly, the original Home of the Budd Company.
LittleTooT Posted February 18, 2011 Member ID: 113 Group: ++ COD2 Admin Followers: 19 Topic Count: 156 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1295 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 207 Achievement Points: 8353 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 17, 2018 Birthday: 07/11/1969 Posted February 18, 2011 Free Trade, same here in Canada. Gotta love George W. Unfortunately if it wasn't but for a few "Chads" in Florida the world could have been a different place. JMO. TooT Awards
Blackbart Posted February 18, 2011 Member ID: 51 Group: Fallen Members Followers: 51 Topic Count: 342 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5974 Content Per Day: 1.04 Reputation: 3766 Achievement Points: 45818 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2021 Birthday: 06/26/1949 Posted February 18, 2011 The loss of the manufacturing base in America is a direct link to the decline in the middle class...In manufacturing there was work for the high school dropout, the highly educated, the skilled and the unskilled...A good living could be had by all employed there...You won't find that in service jobs...Manufacturing was the soul of America... Awards
Bama Posted February 18, 2011 Member ID: 19 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 101 Topic Count: 318 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4446 Content Per Day: 0.77 Reputation: 2769 Achievement Points: 29420 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 3 hours ago Birthday: 02/29/1968 Device: Windows Posted February 18, 2011 LittleTooT Free Trade, same here in Canada. Gotta love George W. Unfortunately if it wasn't but for a few "Chads" in Florida the world could have been a different place. JMO. TooT For the record, it was George H.W. Bush.. not our darling 'Dubya', that signed the initial ceremonial document. It was Clinton who signed the affirmed legislation from congress for NAFTA. So chads had nuttin' to do with it. Awards
LittleTooT Posted February 18, 2011 Member ID: 113 Group: ++ COD2 Admin Followers: 19 Topic Count: 156 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1295 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 207 Achievement Points: 8353 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 17, 2018 Birthday: 07/11/1969 Posted February 18, 2011 Rgr, sry was just looking that up, we signed up to! But it is the same as up here, a company can receive a grant of $1,000,000 + to set up here for 4-5 years and get things running, after the $ runs out, they fuck off to Mexico. Awards
Bama Posted February 18, 2011 Member ID: 19 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 101 Topic Count: 318 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4446 Content Per Day: 0.77 Reputation: 2769 Achievement Points: 29420 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 3 hours ago Birthday: 02/29/1968 Device: Windows Posted February 18, 2011 LittleTooT Rgr, sry was just looking that up, we signed up to! But it is the same as up here, a company can receive a grant of $1,000,000 + to set up here for 4-5 years and get things running, after the $ runs out, they fuck off to Mexico. Yep.. regardless of what morons did it.. it SUX and doesn't help the little man in Canada OR the US. Helps them big companies.. and ultimately the nations government bankroll though!!! Bastards. We have too many politicians who believe the government is a business and not a service organization for the people of the nation. Awards
PimpedOutPete Posted February 18, 2011 Member ID: 174 Group: +++ COD2 Head Admin Followers: 130 Topic Count: 387 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 15027 Content Per Day: 2.62 Reputation: 8043 Achievement Points: 92206 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 59 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 9 hours ago Birthday: 04/23/1970 Device: Macintosh Posted February 18, 2011 I say hang a heavy tax on these imports so they bring back these plants where they belong in the first place... Come On democrats! YOu guys love high taxes!! tax the shit out of any vehicle manufactured outside america.. Awards
Shamu Posted February 18, 2011 Member ID: 715 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 8 Topic Count: 418 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 2178 Content Per Day: 0.38 Reputation: 1183 Achievement Points: 16606 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/09/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2023 Birthday: 11/04/1943 Author Posted February 18, 2011 As I have said before in another thread blame can be spread around rather easily. COMPANIES need to realize the employees deserve a fair wage and a safe and clean working environment. Unions need to realize the company deserves to expect a fair days productive effort from it's employees regardless of the assignment. Understand I support the companies right of assignment for work. I have worked in a restrictive job classification shop and know it kills the companies ability to compete. I will use myself as an example. I was a Journeyman Tool and Die Welder earning in excess of $23.00 per hour back in the early 1990's. I worked a whole lot of overtime. Yet most of my time at Budd I did very little work. I just had to be there in case something broke that required a person of my job classification to weld it. I have gone weeks at a time without striking an arc yet not allowed to help others with their work because of job class protection. No wonder we lose out to foreign competition. Government most definitely needs to take a more protective interest in our manufacturing sector. It provides good jobs for both skilled and unskilled labor. NAFTA is bogus and is a noose around our neck. Just look at all the industry that has gone to Mexico. Wages are low, work ethic is good.......yes the Mexicans are excellant workers..... and plant safety standards are nothing like what American plants are held to meet. Another point about NAFTA, a company I serviced, now out of business, lost all their forging and finishing work to India. Not part of the NAFTA agreement. So the parts are now forged in India, sent to Mexico for finishing and because the higher percentage of the per piece cost was applied to the part for finishing in Mexico the work falls under the NAFTA agreement. The fact that forging it went to India becomes irrelevant. Bogus IMHO. About 100 people in CT lost their jobs over this one. Hell, I could go on and on about government issues, and not just Federal but state and local. Be a local long established company and try to get government assistance to modernize and expand production ......... very hard to do. Come in from a foreign country and propose building a new plant and you get all kinds of aid and tax breaks. Even if that is exactly what the older plant could have done had they received some government help. So, there is lot's of blame to spread around.
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