I feel that there are some great servers out there that have some very nice strategic mods. The problem is they are beginning to disappear what with all the new games. The truth be told the ace is designed by and large as a high speed run and gun mod. I knew @@SABRE that someone would throw my name out there and as I said before this is NOT about me. This was not even my idea, but as @@TecHnOBoY said it was ALL about server traffic and that is all. I mean all in all it's simply a business decision. As for the vote we had before it ended up not being even something the person that set it up had any intention of ever following through with the threat. I personally talked to the person in charge at that time. AND besides my guess is that about 75% of the voters then haven't even played on the ace mod since. I for one was beginning to find other ways to get my recreation and avoiding the ace mod as it was getting so bad. I was one of the ones that Redbull was really getting animated with but he did keep it under control with me. His attitude was such he was basically demanding that everything go back to the way it was and he called that normal. If the current implementations are removed I for one will for the most part continue what I was doing so I simply leave it up to the powers that be and see how things work out. Beers you saying that was not even funny but I won't go there at this time. I love this mod and I see it wasted on strategic players who I believe would be much happier if they had a server to play that style of play in. I have said before I do not have anything against campers as long as they contribute to the overall gaming experience for everybody playing at the time! If not, which is the way its been, then well I know what most other players feel about me and my shaft with two sharp edges on it!