well if you cant camp, i wont play.. i think its a very wierd way of targeting a part of the game! i dont camp, and i camp. Depending on how many is left on my team.. i think its pure bull to take camping out of the game.. and people knifing campers, sneaking up on them and what do i know... And to be fairly honest Sammy. Noone cares what your personal oppinion is.. you have created a lot of great Mods and what do i know! i deeply respect that! and you have always listened to what people had to say creativly (we are idiots, cant help talking shit sometimes ;-) ) but keep your personal likings/preferations out of the picture! My 2 cents. this is a family! and noone in a family has the "power" to react and say like that. You can put out your oppinion and make a debate, but doing something just because you want it, aint gonna last long in family/clan/society/ what do i know..