A Few Reasons Spawn Kills Happen.

[BigPapaDean]

This isn't about camping but spawn camping. It isn't about gaming style but location of gaming style. It is not about preferences of gaming style but abuse of gaming styles. I do give every one the right to play the way they choose too regardless how I feel about their style, but I draw the line when that style whether it be run and gun or camping or anything in between when it turns into spawn killing which turns into spawn raping. We all are guilty of an occasional spawn kill mostly do to the fact when we see someone standing there we hadn't seen before and kill them when their spawn protection runs out. Some spawn and take the whole 4 seconds to look around and then begin to move only to get killed and think they were spawn killed. That may be true but not necessarily. If the player killed you is sitting there near your spawn point and kills every one that spawns there then yes you have been spawned killed. Before I go on lets stop and say something so all is aware that 4 seconds means 4 seconds from the moment you spawn til the 4 seconds is up or you draw your weapon. Once either of those 2 things happen you are no longer under spawn protection and are subject to be killed. I run from the moment I spawn til I either get shot and killed or I get naded or sliced by another dicer. All well and good. Most spawn campers do the following when they spawn. They move just beyond the spawn and set up camp where anyone who spawns in the spawn point must run thru their area and sit there and kill everyone that comes out of the spawn until one of them finally kills them. Then they do the same thing on the next spawn. Last night there was a map that has hallways down some of the outside walls and there are as many as 5 spawn points down the length of this hall way on two different walls and there was one player in particular who when he spawned there went to the end of the hall and sit there and spawn camped the halls for well over 10 minutes and I was killed by him at least 10 times and when he was called out on it he argued that we were spawning every where. I told him that does not give him a license to spawn camp that hall way and to get out of there and it is just not right to do so. This player is typical of the mindset of spawn campers. They justify it so they get easy kills. Well he was getting upset and left the game. I applaud him doing that but was I right to stop this B/S or not? I will not mention his name here as he knows who he is and I am hoping he realizes he is not allowed to do that. Peace out!!!

[HarryWeezer]

Not much to add Dean except that spawn campers will be booted and banned when an admin catches them at it. We don't do that based on someone's accusation because it may not have been intentional. But if they are persistent spawn campers, in time we'll get them. No reflection on you because you don't do this, but what irks me most in game are the whiners who are constantly complaining about spawn kills. I make it a practice to look for the light bulb so I can blow your head off when it goes out. But I don't spawn camp. Nor do I expect someone who turns a corner and finds me spawning, to wait patiently until I move or turn and fire. When I come across someone spawning. I start shooting - such is the game. Had a player bitch the other day about getting killed when he spawned; I told him "then don't spawn there you idiot." 

Edited February 12, 2013 by SgtHarryWeezer

[PingLo]

I love spawn campers, if we didn't have spawn campers in FT we'd still be playing the original map!