eidolonFIRE Posted May 20, 2014 Member ID: 2759 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 17 Topic Count: 199 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3496 Content Per Day: 0.70 Reputation: 3021 Achievement Points: 26464 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 08/22/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 16, 2017 Birthday: 07/27/1990 Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) So I'm making another tobacco pipe but hit a snag and need advise. Scrap or Repair? ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// I'm making this: With this: -Briar block -White Cedar from my property I got this far: My goal to do aluminum inlay by simply layering: The plan: The sad reality... I couldn't see the rot from the outside. The question is... The rot doesn't go very far in and the wood is VERY hard. Can I fill this with epoxy mixed with fine saw dust and continue or should I scrap it and restart the stem? I don't have a whole lot more wood. The reason I'm worried about having the cracks is because when you're smoking the pipe, a lot of warm moisture makes it's way into the stem which causes the wood to swell. Or do you have another idea I should consider? Thanks much! Edited May 20, 2014 by eidolonFIRE
little_old_man Posted May 20, 2014 Member ID: 1194 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 436 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 6692 Content Per Day: 1.21 Reputation: 11691 Achievement Points: 53094 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 76 Joined: 02/27/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 16, 2023 Birthday: 04/15/1960 Posted May 20, 2014 What's the diameter of that round section the hole is in? Is there enough there to work with if you cut away the rotten part and just use that round section? Maybe just re-drill the hole in the center of the grain where it terminates then carve away the part where the current hole is. It may look bigger in the pictures than it really is. Awards
eidolonFIRE Posted May 20, 2014 Member ID: 2759 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 17 Topic Count: 199 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3496 Content Per Day: 0.70 Reputation: 3021 Achievement Points: 26464 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 08/22/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 16, 2017 Birthday: 07/27/1990 Author Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) What's the diameter of that round section the hole is in? Is there enough there to work with if you cut away the rotten part and just use that round section? Maybe just re-drill the hole in the center of the grain where it terminates then carve away the part where the current hole is. It may look bigger in the pictures than it really is. The drilled hole is 1/8" This is almost exactly how much I need... so if I carved it down I would be filling it too. Oh, and I already drilled the hole all the way through... :| (aprox a 10" deep hole... takes a while to drill) The difficult part about moving the 1/8" hole is that I don't have a drill press. I drill it as straight as I can but it can tend to drift since it's parallel to the grain. The knots are VERY rock hard so it deflects a bit as it passes through the heart. All that said, my usual approach is to drill the hole and carve down to match it's route Edited May 20, 2014 by eidolonFIRE
little_old_man Posted May 21, 2014 Member ID: 1194 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 436 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 6692 Content Per Day: 1.21 Reputation: 11691 Achievement Points: 53094 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 76 Joined: 02/27/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 16, 2023 Birthday: 04/15/1960 Posted May 21, 2014 Well, I guess to answer your original question you can fill it with something resin based, but like you said it's hot and moist air passing through the stem and the resin won't handle all of the expansion and contraction as well as the wood will. Eventually it will probably break. eidolonFIRE 1 Awards
eidolonFIRE Posted May 21, 2014 Member ID: 2759 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 17 Topic Count: 199 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3496 Content Per Day: 0.70 Reputation: 3021 Achievement Points: 26464 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 08/22/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 16, 2017 Birthday: 07/27/1990 Author Posted May 21, 2014 Welll... I discovered that the rot was deeper than I thought so I cut it off. New Plan! -from other pieces of the same branch
little_old_man Posted May 21, 2014 Member ID: 1194 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 436 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 6692 Content Per Day: 1.21 Reputation: 11691 Achievement Points: 53094 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 76 Joined: 02/27/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 16, 2023 Birthday: 04/15/1960 Posted May 21, 2014 Seems like a new piece is the best way to go. Awards
eidolonFIRE Posted May 21, 2014 Member ID: 2759 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 17 Topic Count: 199 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3496 Content Per Day: 0.70 Reputation: 3021 Achievement Points: 26464 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 08/22/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 16, 2017 Birthday: 07/27/1990 Author Posted May 21, 2014 Seems like a new piece is the best way to go. sigh... 4 hours in the wrong direction... I wish I had some proper tools. I'm using a belt sander (hand held) as a lathe
little_old_man Posted May 21, 2014 Member ID: 1194 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 436 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 6692 Content Per Day: 1.21 Reputation: 11691 Achievement Points: 53094 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 76 Joined: 02/27/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 16, 2023 Birthday: 04/15/1960 Posted May 21, 2014 You should be able to pick up a used lathe pretty cheap on Craigslist or maybe even eBay. I sold a 1960's era Sears Robuck lathe for my dad a few years ago for $50 on Craigslist. eidolonFIRE 1 Awards
eidolonFIRE Posted May 21, 2014 Member ID: 2759 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 17 Topic Count: 199 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3496 Content Per Day: 0.70 Reputation: 3021 Achievement Points: 26464 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 08/22/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 16, 2017 Birthday: 07/27/1990 Author Posted May 21, 2014 When I have a garage I'll start buying tools. Depending where I end of moving (for a job) I'll find a hackerspace in the area. It's a small membership fee and the usually have a full woodshop. http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/
MtDeW Posted May 21, 2014 Member ID: 49 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 6 Topic Count: 113 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 839 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 993 Achievement Points: 11437 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 13 hours ago Birthday: 02/09/1966 Device: Windows Posted May 21, 2014 I'll sell you a lathe 5 speed with a set of chisels. you can chuck up a 38"long x 12" $125.00 + shipping?
eidolonFIRE Posted May 21, 2014 Member ID: 2759 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 17 Topic Count: 199 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3496 Content Per Day: 0.70 Reputation: 3021 Achievement Points: 26464 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 08/22/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 16, 2017 Birthday: 07/27/1990 Author Posted May 21, 2014 I'll sell you a lathe 5 speed with a set of chisels. you can chuck up a 38"long x 12" $125.00 + shipping? sure! How much student loan do you want for it? I'm willing to give half for the lathe.
Leadfinger Posted May 21, 2014 Member ID: 4888 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 56 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2020 Content Per Day: 0.45 Reputation: 3795 Achievement Points: 26312 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 01/12/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 29, 2023 Birthday: 08/29/1962 Posted May 21, 2014 @@eidolonFIRE Hmmmm maybe something could be worked out here Perhaps some idiots could donate to your cause and in turn you could make pipes for them. Say if Leadfinger donated $25.00 or more and LOM (he's a generous guy ) donated $25.00 or more and a couple more idiots and you would have the $125.00 needed to buy MtDew's lathe I would be willing to wait till you had the lathe before you made my pipe . . . Kinda like investing in an idiot pipemaker's dream. People need to find ways of helping others get ahead and this clan is full of helpers Just a thought. . . kick it around a bit Anyway that white cedar is some really cool wood. . . . .does it have a strong cedar smell? Does it affect the taste of the . . . . ummmm material being smoked? Here in Montana I go up to the Bighorn Lake and pick up driftwood (cedar) and some of it is a rich purple color and smells amazing when I cut it and when I burn it. (in the wood-stove) . . Labob and billyblade 2 Awards
eidolonFIRE Posted May 21, 2014 Member ID: 2759 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 17 Topic Count: 199 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3496 Content Per Day: 0.70 Reputation: 3021 Achievement Points: 26464 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 08/22/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 16, 2017 Birthday: 07/27/1990 Author Posted May 21, 2014 (edited) @@eidolonFIRE Hmmmm maybe something could be worked out here Perhaps some idiots could donate to your cause and in turn you could make pipes for them. Say if Leadfinger donated $25.00 or more and LOM (he's a generous guy ) donated $25.00 or more and a couple more idiots and you would have the $125.00 needed to buy MtDew's lathe I would be willing to wait till you had the lathe before you made my pipe . . . Kinda like investing in an idiot pipemaker's dream. People need to find ways of helping others get ahead and this clan is full of helpers Just a thought. . . kick it around a bit Anyway that white cedar is some really cool wood. . . . .does it have a strong cedar smell? Does it affect the taste of the . . . . ummmm material being smoked? Here in Montana I go up to the Bighorn Lake and pick up driftwood (cedar) and some of it is a rich purple color and smells amazing when I cut it and when I burn it. (in the wood-stove) . . Thats a cool idea but i dont know how practical that would be... Lathe + appartment = long talk with land lord. I actually was strongly thinking about making a pipe with an XI logon carved into the side. I was thinking since I get so much out of this clan but have no money to donate it would make a fun auction item to raise money for XI. I'm sure lots of guys here would pay top dollar for it (considering where the money would be going) The hold up is finding the time. It takes me about 50 hours to make a pipe. Mostly because its 90% done by hand. I have a hand drill, a hand held belt sander, a dremmel, two hands, and a stack of sand paper. The cedar smells amazing! Its also nostalgic for me since my late grandpa loved cedar and would make us model airplanes and trinkets out of it. His woodshop would make you high on cedar. The last pipe I made had a cedar stem and the draw was heavily cented/flavored but it mellowed out as the wood continued to dry. I've come to love wooden stems over the traditional delrin. The wood never tastes sour and it tends to pull the moisture out of the smoke better. The result is a draw as smooth as a milkshake with a hint of nostalgia. I love it Edited May 21, 2014 by eidolonFIRE baldie, billyblade and Leadfinger 3
billyblade Posted May 21, 2014 Member ID: 34 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 47 Topic Count: 182 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2097 Content Per Day: 0.37 Reputation: 1003 Achievement Points: 14880 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 12, 2018 Birthday: 04/29/1966 Posted May 21, 2014 im late to see this but in the future i would suggest elmers carpenter glue. I repaired a broken bass neck with it and have used it before. After it sets up proper...it will never break at the glued points. Im no scientist, but my assumption is that the heat and moisture would have no effect on the hardened glue. You got a killer hobby and i would love one of those just to display..maybe occasionally puff. Keep up the good work dude!!! Leadfinger, eidolonFIRE and baldie 3 Awards
eidolonFIRE Posted May 22, 2014 Member ID: 2759 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 17 Topic Count: 199 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3496 Content Per Day: 0.70 Reputation: 3021 Achievement Points: 26464 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 08/22/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 16, 2017 Birthday: 07/27/1990 Author Posted May 22, 2014 well, it all turned out pretty well in the end. I'm going to put the finishing touches on it and I'll show it off soon
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