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First video the theme music is from shinra mansion in Final Fantasy VII!!! That is fucking great! Funny part is I play FF VII on my android with a Wii controller with a Playstation adapter..... XD LAWLS!!!! Second Video is the Seproth / Jenova theme music. Funny because I grew up on that game and the series and now cannot play it because it has become an MMO that you have to pay monthly to play. This is interesting to say the least.

Not sure about my old board the Crosshair Formula III I will have to check but I am sure the board did not support the 6 core till I updated the bios. I was a DDR3 board though. My system ran fine with the old 790FX chipset but with the new 890 I got an extra 200MHz stable in my Overall stable OC. EDIT: Just checked it was a AM3 but on the old chipset. HERE IS THE MOBO Sry could not be better help.

Ok so the only Overclocking you do on that platform is the cpu which reaches very good clocks on air for fucking sure. Well you got a great platform there and seems like it should be easy to setup and overclock. Wonder if they will find a way to overclock the IMC on the CPU to make faster ram speeds possible. The sticks default to what they can get with there mult of course because you cannot change the base clock. I think I get the just of it now and actually think there are quite a few that might want to go with one of these when they get a chance.

So how does it work? Are you saying that overclocking your ram and chipsets or memory controller gives no preformance gains on sandy bridge? With any I7 I ever met you get better overclocking with the bus evan with everything ending up at the same clock speeds because the base clock is faster. You have multipliers for the other components in your system but to overclock with these it is done in big steps. If you use the base clock it raises everything else. I am just trying to understand now. So with sandy bridge you only overclock the CPU and nothing else because they have set it already and everything is perfect. Like if your ram is at 1200MHz and your ram can run 1333 you cannot use the base clock or bus to overclock the ram a little bit and use your dividers like every other computer? If you can there is no bennifit from it? Only CPU overclocking with the multiplier? No OC on the bus at all? This is something I really want to understand now because I overclock everything I can get my hands on. Thanks for the info

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Was about to say just that Gump and also dean my Xfire is dread696969 I just logged into it for a min on here if ya still need help. Taking a break from fixing my computer beacause I cannot stay out the forums.... lolz!

Welcome Home Yop!

LilAcorn i dont condone drinking of anything, smoking of anything and illegal drugs and pot is illegal IMO... I dont even allow anyone to smoke in my house and if someone is to drive me and my kids they cannot be on the cell while driving or not even smoke in the car with me and the kids.... My brother is an ex druggie, he has done all kinds of crap and he even says pot fucks you up, you cannot think stright, you want to do stuff yet all you do is sit on your ass and say all the wrong stuff... and if you happen to get off your ass, you end up getting hurt or into major trouble with other people cause you cannot think stright. When my brother is around me and my kids he is all clean and he has seen his life improved 100x better, able to hold a job, get his own place and have a better relationship with girls n etc... And my family thanks me for it. I have tried to drink wine/beer/etc but i just get sick after one sip, i start throwing up constantly... So I am thankful for not being able to drink cause it will cause major issues with family stuff since my dad was a heavy drinker and so is my father in law which is divorced. And i won't let my father in law around my kids when he is drunk since he doesnt know what the hell he is saying, and when he said he hasnt had anything to drink he picked up my oldest son when he was a baby when visiting his sister(my husband's aunt) he nearly fell over a chair and almost dropped my oldest son. I was majorly pissed off at him and even went off on my husband about his dad. My brother has done a lot of stupid shit so yes my mom called the cops on her own son, I would do the same to my kids.... IMO if you fucked up, i ain't taking cover for your ass for something you have done. I even called the cops on my ex-step cousin for being a pot head and a run away from foster home and came to my house to seek shelter... I don't need stupid shit on my records cause I enjoy working at a daycare. So I don't want to waste my college certificate for teachers aide down the drain.... i give a shit about life.... IMO there are other ways to solve issues without drugs/drinking/smoking cigs/illegal crap..... Seek couseling, listen to music, find a hobby, go outdoors to explore something that you enjoy to look at/whatever, find a job that wont cause you to stress out or whatever.... There are other ways but i think those who look into bad stuff are too fucken lazy and rather "drown" their problems into the crap.... there is a pot head at my hubby's work and he is suppose to pack stuff for shipping when buyers put in their orders, well.... he doesnt do shit, he is too fucken slow, gotten orders wrong, packs stuff wrong, doesnt make sense when he talks or when told to do something he just stands there and says "oooooooh", a hoodie kind of guy and he stinks of pot... and the guy wanted to take 4/20 off as well but his boss declinded. My husband is going to talk to his boss to see about getting that guy fired. and my hubby is the "manager." Since his boss fired his ex wife who was the 2nd person in charge. sorry for this being long and for the way i see it n etc but its fact that it does mess you up.. Sounds like Weed is not the root of your brother problem. That is a personality trait in some people with certen or all substances. Well people should look inside and realise like I have many times that they say stuff and have a cause sometimes because they are mad or just do not understand. Hell there are things that bother me but I am trying really hard to not let them. (By Smoking WEED) Life is too short. Hell I have been sitting in TS3 before and next thing I am getting high and noticing I am babysitting someone else's kid. Me and the guys getting high at 2 A.M. and had to watch our mouths and then just leave the voice server so we were not mean. I am not going to judge that person and guess what druggs or what have you that was on to do that. People are diffrent and the people that were excited about this thread are in gen mellow people that if did not smoke would prob be mean to others... SO LONG LIVE FUCKING WEED AND MAY 4-20 BE GREAT EVERY YEAR!!! (And TWICE A DAY!)

ROCKAPE Good thing we are talking about plants right? XD

LilAcorn wont like me one bit, i voted to BAN this..... i dont care if anyone says oh it has no affect..... heck i hate seeing pot heads driving n whatever around their home and working they dont do jack shit and cause nothing but trouble.... I still keep putting my vote to BAN pot all together medicated or not.... even medicated people get an addiction and go on street to buy more cause their doctor gives them so little for it.... Nothing but trouble.... if my kids ever started this pot stuff i call the cops on em.... tough love.... Well sounds like the potheads you talk to or see you think are loosers. Well I don't know about your life or medication but my nervs are fine with weed and every time you have seen me having a bad day it can be stopped with a bud joint. Sounds like you need a bud joint. That tree in your sig looks like some nice purple kush! XD Love ya still!

Someone hop on Team Viewer or Crossloop and help this man. If you don't have it in a bit I will remote desktop for you if you want. Seeing is more helpful for some. Good luck and I will check back soon as I am done with this computer here I am beating.

X-RayXI The only issue I see is that: Build in one server and in the other. Spoke with Dread about that and requires alot of work to merge them. No one likes to lose a build in a world. So if you are building in a world in one server do not build in that same world in another server. If you enter my multiworld server and want to build because of whatever just do not build in a world that you are already building in in another server. Like say if the server is messed up and I do not have a current version of an XI world from other server. Build in another world in the multiworld server other than the one that is not up to date because it will be replaced with an update version. If you are needing to go into the server because the other is having problems till all is sorted and we have all together Just build in different worlds and know that we can connect the worlds when the server is finished and updated. There is also already a mod that can import chuncks so it is possible to import things and there is also map editors so we can bring good projects to where we need them later. As long as we have the worlds it can be done. Just might be more simple later if we wait. When it is sorted if it was up to me multiworld not only means multi sets of rules per worlds but multiple projects with diffrentt themes and possibilitys. EDIT:I will shut scranton for now when the server is back up so we cannot have this happen. Just know that later your world can connect to other worlds if that is what the guys want to do.

Shit also Bama you are running 1070MHz on thoes sticks right now you can turn them to 1600 in your bios. It might say 533, 667 or 800 in bios or CPUz but that is a dual data rate so you are running 1066, 1333 or 1600 at those settings. The extra voltage was considering you were running 1600MHz on the ram. You can leave the ram at about 1.55 or 1.6 for testing at 1333 and the 8-8-8-24 2T timings. But up to you. Bump...... You said you needed info right? LOLz!

CplMOFO No issue DREAD...I understand your point better now. I layed "suppressive fire" onto the target a little quick maybe. The issue at hand here is that the more technical it gets, the less interesting it gets for the computer "users", which is the main base here... There is only a handfull of us that like the "nitty gritty" part. I never had much performance boost from tweaking RAM much, I cannot comment on that. The only thing is....with Sandy bridge, because the overclocking doesn't require the RAM speed (in megahertz) to change, for the CPU speed to increase, the incidence of high quality RAM is not as critical... That being said, tighter timings are always nice to have, and higher speed RAM (DDR3-1600 or better) has an incidence.. but it's a benchmark thing...it doesn't translate into better FPS (more than one to 3 FPS max)... Well it was just an issue of not being stable for what I was trying to do. For some reason Crossfire Preformance went out the window with my faster timings. Lowered and all was good. I have personally noticed that a tighter timing does not matter as much in any system as much as a higher MHz when it comes to feeding your vid cards. If your CPU is only at 40% to 60% usage and the GPU's are maxed at 99% each I have noticed my min frame and max frame raise from running the faster MHz. But mind you I have to tune my system like crazy because I am trying to max every game I have in Eyefinity or on 3 monitors. It takes a lot more stress onthe system and a bigger chance for error. Games that run fine on one of my monitors and on a old setup give me micro stutter or all kinds of issues when I run 3 times the resolution and everything has to sync up betwine displays. Then you add Crosfire and more issues to overcome. Good to see there are more nerds here to share with! Edit:Hell come to think of it I gained over 1000 points in 3D Mark 06 just using the buss more for the same overclock. Then gained around another 1200 Points from OC on my NB and slowing down my CPU OC. Computers are crazy and we are idiots! XD

Once you get stable you can convert your overclock over for more preformance. Like say you are running a 4.2GHz OC with 200 Bus times your 21 CPU Mult. (200x21=4200MHz/4.2GHz) Then you run same test or benches with say a 300 Bus and a CPU Mult of 14 for 4.2 GHz. (14x300=4200MHz/4.2GHz)The faster Buss is going to preform better. That is why people are buying the 1055T and claiming they are out preforming 1090T and up. They are forced to Overclock with the bus and with the data starting at a higher rate if both are stable overclocks the one that is using the bus faster is going to be faster. The Black Edition CPU's are known for the Mult being unlocked and it is easyer but that is just to find the sweet spot faster. Here is my OC for ref. CLICK ME !

Oh and you should be able to put your CPU on it's max safe voltage for air at 1.55 and test 4GHz with all other settings stock. Just watch your temps. If you can run Prime 95 for an hour on blend with no errors and not burning up then we have a good start. The CPU can be stable at less volts but 1.55 is safe if you stay under 62c. Then we can have some good fun. So start with 8-8-8-24 2T 1.65v on ram. Leave everything else stock NB HT and all. Pump your CPU mult up to 20 with a base clock of 200 for 4GHz with 1.55v. Boot back into windows and run Prime95 (Watch your TEMPS right from boot and do not go over 62c. Although if you do it will just shut off. Try to get an hour into Prime 95 with thoes settings. If you crash or cannot boot or are not handeling the heat post. Need to try to start at 1.55 because Prime95 will stress your CPU to the max and you do not want to go over 1.55v on air anyway.

A yo!!! YOu got the same computer as mine almost! Check my CPUz in my Sig that is what I am running. I am down because of a pump but soon as I get her cracked off again I will help ya out a bit if ya want to OC that rig. You need to get ya NB up it will give you all the preformance you are going to get out of the system. Have to remember that NB voltage and CPU-NB voltage are two seprate things in AMD systems. So for now you can raise your NB multiplyer to give you around 2.6GHz and give it 1.3V to the CPU-NB Vlotage not the NB voltage NB is just your chipset. Your IMC (Intagrated Memory Controller) is in the CPU so it is going to raise your CPU temp a bit so just watch for that. Also drop all your ram timings to 8-8-8-24 but change the command rate to 2T. I believe your ram is 1.6V but you can be safe if it is giving you problems to overvolt it to 1.65 or 1.67 easy and bring it back down later. Raising it can help eleminate a simple problem because after you are stable you can lower and test till it crashes and then back up one notch for good stability and less heat.

I am putting my server back up in just a bit it has been down because I have been on it with my computer out right now. I also tried some ram that was given to me for the server but they were dead.... Whatever lol!

Not once did I compair the diffrent CPUs. The comment about ram timings and cenebench can happen with any system. CPU is so fast that other things are not running stable as they were so time to find the problem or have a 5GHz OC that is slower than a 4GHz OC on the same system. It's like having 500 Horsepower and not getting it from the motor to the road. I was talking in gen and using another brand for reference I guess was the cause for confusion because people feel so strongly for there company. Or maybe you just do not want my advice but I just read all I can about computers because I work on them. Sorry again. PEACE

CplMOFO Dread, Let's not turn my topic into a shit-show...if you want to argue benchmarks, testing methodology, go to Xtremesystems.... Sandy bridge is new and nice, giving better performance than AMD Phenom IIs X4 and X6 nobody's gonna argue with that. and we're talking at a CHEAP CPU that kicks some ass... IMHO a X6 Phenom II is a good platform. Good stuff if you like it...It pumps impressive CINEBENCH scores...but CINEBENCH has nothing to do with anything close to gaming...this is why I never bother... People choosing X6 CPUs are doing it for it's number crunching capability, where the extra 2 cores make a difference. Why not making a AMD thread? You could be really helpful to the >XI< clan members taht own AMD CPUs...I don't know much about them anymore (R.I.P Athlon 64 3400+ Clawhammer circa 2004) Sory the why evan sandy was because I expected I did not realise what kind of work you did that I do not. My system is not built for video encoding and editing and such so I know a system built for that would have a intell CPU with a binary calculator built in. Just was wondering seriously. Ummmm I was trying to help. Also not compairing systems as I did not ask to have a bench off. I was saying that about cenebench because it might help. I tighten my timings and go for the highest MHz and I get better work benches. Like video encode and all that jazz anything that is work related. Then I lost all preformance in Crossfire. Dropped my timings slowing down my benchmarks like cene and BAM my FPS came back up and everything started working right. Was saying just because hereing diffrent computer setups and problems/fixes help me make my system runn better for what I want to do. I also like the cpus and see no way how I was bashing them. Sorry if your wheaties have been pissed in this morning but I am not the guy that has been trying to do that. My computer is down right now and I am leaning over a server PC I threw together to play on the fourms because I am bored. Was saying I like the CPUs and typing info because it might help. I have a friend here with a I7 980X and I still help tune up that system..... Sorry was trying to be nice and bored man I apologize and guess I will not post like that in your forum again but I am not going to Xtremesystems when we have such a badass forum right here with the Idiots.

CplMOFO @ LARSIN: Well, it's perfectly stable, but who know how warm it's gonna be this summer. If I get a air conditioning unit for my computer room this summer, this setting could still be pretty good. but as warmer summer air is used to cool off components, efficiency of air cooling drops a little...gotta keep a good balance...and room temps at 25 celsius or below... I shot for 4.5-4.6 anyway. To be honest, the difference between 4.6 and 4.7 is pretty slim (400 points in 3dmarks VANTAGE)...I'll probably back it down to 4.6...just to save a few milivolts and degrees Everything below 80 degrees is safe( for sandy bridge...other CPUs are different, careful there!!!), but I like to keep things under 70 degrees...my 4.6 setting gives me that...(above temps were during stress test, max reached 73 celsius) gaming temps are a good 5 degrees celsius below stress test temps... @ BAMA: I hear you...this stuff is like drugs to me...now, I have to stop looking at computer parts sales and concentrate in helping others...my spending spree is over... BTW The H70 is pretty nice looking and effective...fan noise can be heard, but it's no biggie...lower temps is the best! anyway, in my case I have so many fans, it's like a wind tunnel... Keep in touch, let me know which CPU/mobo you got and we can look at "safe" settings... The reason why you are not seeing gains is you have to tune other parts of the system too. Something is causeing a bottleneck. I can get higher scores at 4GHz than 4.2. If the 4.2 is with everything else stock and the 4GHz I tuned mem and northbridge (Memory Controller). When you hit a wall like that something else is playing diffrent with your new CPU speeds. So when you get stable with your CPU where you want it then starting tuning ram timings (Tighter timings can be helped with Overvolting but make sure you keep the ram cool) and tuning your Memory controller. I have seen many people that hit a preformance wall and dropping ram speed has evan caused preformance gains. Because the ram or memory controller was not so stable once the CPU reached higher speeds. Well crap I'm draining my cooling and seeing if I can get my pump broke loose. I want to do some benchmarking now reading all this and seeing screenshots and all..... Got to get off this server PC today! Great setup man!

Mr-Turkey @Mofo - Looks fine to me mate , its a tricky old game cable management. Cards look sweet @Nightmare - I had a look at your pc under "my PC" in your post , it looks very nice! You having fun with your new set up? I pushed my cpu last night to see how far it could go just for benchmarks and stuff , managed a stable 5ghz at 1.46vcore. Hit a max temp of 82 degrees after 30 mins at 100% load. Back to my 24/7 clock now , but amazing how well these new chips clock! Screenshot of CPUz and core temp with Prime running for a few hours? Just currious. and what cooling are you running? Sounds Great. Wonder how it will scale on what chipset in multi GPU configurations or if it is just a work horse like the I7 was soposed to be.

CplMOFO For Nightmare question: I picked the somewhat cheap 1333 kit, because I seen several benchmarks that are showing that different RAM kits on SB are not display a lot of "real life" difference...anyway, there is about 1 fps difference in most benches between high-end(1600 and up) and plain jane 1333.. Blackbart: I picked the 2500K after thinking about it quite a bit. My reasoning: I paid $249 for BOTH the CPU and the cooler... I bought from NCIX canada, but you can also buy as an american citizen...there is an american version of the site. www.ncixus.com Pretty reliable I'm buying parts from them since 2004...NEVER had issues... So awesome deal really hard to pass...also, apparently, it's a little easier to reach higher overclocks with a CPU without HT (hyperthreading)...temperatures while OCed are also a little lower. Also, in GAMES benchmarks, the difference between 2600K and 2500K are non-existent in most cases...the 2600K is better in video encoding benches and some professional applications and BENCHMARKS...so the extra $$$ are hard to justify for a gamer... Money-wize, you'd rather put a little extra money on graphics cards than CPUs ( a good balance is needed, but it this case it's a non-issue), because in games, at same clock speed, both chips will perform pretty much the same. On the HD5870 topic, this is the card I actually own right now...pretty good. The Crossfire scaling is known to be even better with the new Hd69**-series...the 2GB of RAM on the HD69**s also helps future-proofing a little bit...it's also better in high anti-aliasing scenarios... but yes, I'm pretty sure, I go back to old faithful nVIDIA in SLI... I'm eyeing the EVGA GTX570s that I can pricematch down to $340 each...this what I want...the wife thinks different LOLZ.. I'll try to keep my card's price to $600 all included (sale's tax+ shipping)...i might have to wait a little more for price drops...or I might settle for 560Tis...but I NEED 570's...this time, I got some slack from the ol lady, it is my intent to use that "window of opportunity" to the MAX. UKILDME, that DELUXE will give you extra LAST STAND/SECOND CHANCE options...lol Just wondering why evan go with sandy if all you are doing is gaming. An old intell quad will not bottle neck on 2 or 3 Graphics processors with the right chipset and configured correctly. When it comes to playing PC games if that is all you are doing you need to pick your graphics cards and make sure you can feed em. I run a 6 core Phenom for $250 at 4.2 GHz and in games I never go ever 60% CPU usage maxing both of my 5870 Eye 6 editions. Oh and with any ram you can tighten timings and lower MHz and still out preform another platform with faster MHz ram. (Can meaning possible) Depends on the system and what you are tuning it for. I can get better video incoding times but with thoes ram settings my FPS in games are lower. So I am configured to get the most out of my GFX. Hell just timings gave me a 40 FPS diffrence in Crysis Warhead and Crysis 2. Funny part I loosened my timings and got better FPS, Dropped my Cenebench score though. Everything just needs tuned for what you are doing. Just wondering what else you want out of it other than gaming because it is a great chip I did not think Sandy was built with gaming in mind. Oh and about GFX I personally go with AMD because I run 5 monitors and can do so with just one card. My second card is just for extra muscle in Crossfire. With Nvidia I would have had to pay for both cards at once to have Triplescreen and still have to add another card or USB to VGA adapters to my other 2 monitors. I got a 5870 Eyefinity 6 edition for 300 and some change and it maxes any game you want on 3 monitors with no AA. Mind I have had it on water and overclocked right to a 1GHz core the whole time I have had it. But now with the cards dropping in price I grabbed another one on sale on egg for $200 and a water Block for $100. So now with the new 11.3 Drivers I am getting 70 to 130 FPS in Crysis 2 Maxed Everything at 4320x900 Res. Crysis Wars runs at 60 to 120 or so. I can evan max AA at that res in Crysis Wars and never go under 55 FPS. So I am stuck with AMD evan if I wanted to go Green untill they can give me 5 monitors at least on one card and then the option to do SLI for more power. Nice setup too man. Plenty of muscle for whatever you want to do I'm sure.

Tball DREAD69 Love you guys too XD! LOL! Back soon. My pump died on my comp so I'm on my peace of crap blackberry till I can get this one going or a new one in. Blackberry wtf where is your droid man Dude I broke the internal antenna....... My driod does everything from Wii Fi, MP3, MPEG, Playstation Games..... (PORN) Except connect to verizon. Got a Blackberry storm for now because it was free. I hate it but there is one thing I like. They actually lisenced Xfire moble for blackberrys. So I do not have to run a push server like I had to on my android. lolz!

Bring it on!!! Hells yea! My system is running perfect when my pump is running. Replacement on the way.... But this is awesome to say the least! Thanks as usual X-Ray