Joe Canadian

How much did you charge him to write his bio?

"My comment pertaining to the outlawing of outdoor activities was obviously an exaggeration of the situation, but apparently you seem to be unable to differentiate what was intended as my opinion and what the facts of the story were at that time, that were as provided in the link. So please allow me to dumb it down for you just a bit so you can grasp what I'm saying." No need to dumb things down for me, thanks for the offer. I gotta poop. Loader, ruuun I need to go!!!!!

Fascinating post but prime example of logical fallacy. We are all vigorously defending our points of view, but have we taken the time to check the structure of the argument and validity of the premises? Probably not, because if the premises were true we should all be arriving to robust, overall conclusions. I am not taking about personal opinions that might, or might not be necessarily related to the premises presented to us, but rather factual findings. The title of the post is "Florida Mom arrested for letting 7 year old son walk to park alone", followed by an introductory comment that I will just quote in part: "It looks like they're trying to outlaw outdoor activities by arresting parents of 7 year old kids playing alone outside. What the fuck is the world coming to? Is this change for the better?" We happen to know the person who posted this. He has a solid reputation and we trust him .He is probably speaking from authority, we might think, so we instantly assume that both, the title and his comments are accurate. Some people start sensing that there is in fact a campaign to outlaw outdoor activities and to arrest not just one, but many many parents of 7 year old kids playing alone outside. We get all defensive and start talking about our constitutional rights and freedoms... We start comparing countries, making inaccurate or weak analogies, telling stories about our childhoods, making hasty generalizations, begging the question… but are our premises correct, complete and unbiased? It turns out that the 7 year-old kid was in fact walking alone heading to the park. But he did not get to the park, he stopped and sat at a nearby pool. He was spotted by lifeguards who had seen him, the 7 year-old kid 5 previous times. And when they approach him, the kid fled running across a six-lane road toward the park. And the cops got called in. They apparently weren't chasing other parents at this particular time, so they had a chance to talk to the kid. The 7 year-old boy has a learning disability and was sitting all by himself in a park half a mile away from home. The cops learned that this is a common occurrence, charged his mother with child negligence, arrested and released her hours later. Starting a discussion with a desired set of conclusions and defending them ad hominen leads to confirmation and cognitive biases. Nothing else.

Would love to hear what you wife had to say about this. I am obviously taking about legal definitions by the Child and Family services of Alta.

Johnny has a more holistic approach to life hxtr. Cannabis, good Canadian, British Columbian weed cures everything except for hemorrhoids. 2manybeers might help you with those...;-)

Too funny TBB ;-) Joe's behavior has always been the same, I happen to have a bit more time than usual. Joe Jr >XI< loves reading some of these posts since becoming a Jr member. One disturbing thought though... he want's to meet hxtr and try that fu pinto bean chili recipe. He loved that video. And he thinks that the US correctional system is great because some inmates like you get internet for free cool stuff, eh? take care bud Joe

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No LOM. I don't want anybody locking up parents for not supervising their kids while they play. I agree with you for the most part except for one thing: keeping an eye on them, seeing what they are doing or having some adult around them while they play. I don't want my children sitting in front of the computer or the TV the whole day either. I actually encourage and even force them to go outside, ride their bikes, take the dog for a walk. My wife and I are fortunate enough to be able to afford signing up our kids for all sorts of activities: day camps, soccer, hockey, gymnastics etc. But most parents aren't, and sending their kids to play unsupervised might be their way to keep them active. If that's their parenting style, so be it. It's not mine. Joe

It is a matter of choice and affordability. My kids take a windows phone that does not have a data plan. They can make phone calls and send and receive text messages Nothing else. The phone has other features like GPS, maps, camera than can be pretty useful as well. Child abusers, rapists, murderers and such are a potential concern. But accidents, drownings, vicious dog attacks are also a concern. You can teach your kid to run from strangers and to be careful, but that's about it

He already needs a butt transplant

My kids (10 and 13) walk to school all the time. They go bike riding with friends their age and do all sorts of outdoor activities but they always bring a cell phone along and tell us exactly where they will be. They are mature enough, in our opinion, to look out for each other, exercise relatively good judgement and use their common sense. The question you should ask yourself is if a 7 year old is mature enough to perceive accurately whats going on around him, while he plays in a public area unsupervised. What would you base your assumptions on? Statistics, the notion that this particular place is "safe"? How about accidents, drownings and such? How long would it take you as a parent, living "only" a 1/2 mile from the park to learn if something went wrong and to react accordingly? I am not making any sort of comparisons between the USA and Canada because its irrelevant. And I don't even care what the law says either. Good parenting does not require a set of rules to be followed and enforced by the cops and social services. A 7 year old boy should always be supervised while he plays, even at home. Letting my 7 year old leave the house and go to play 1/2 mile away is a big no no, at least for me. Joe Ps: Check this out, some reading material bellow... Child neglect means not doing enough to keep your child safe and healthy. It can include one or more of the following: The failure to provide adequate food and shelter The failure to provide basic health care Inadequate supervision or child care Inadequate protection from physical risks or danger What Does "Supervised" Mean? Supervised means that the caregiver can see the child and is close enough to protect the child from harm. Children 0 to Four Years Old Children in this age group must be supervised at all times! Children Five to Seven Years Old Children in this age group may play unsupervised for up to 30 minutes when a parent (or age-appropriate caregiver) is at home and can check-in regularly with the child or is able to see the child. Many children in this age group can be taught to walk to school by themselves, however, it is preferred that children in Kindergarten and Grades one and two are accompanied by a caregiver when walking to school or waiting for the school bus. Kidnapping by strangers is very rare, accounting for less than 1% of missing children cases, according to the RCMP. Still, we should all take sensible precautions. Never leave a young child alone in a public place – not even for just a minute. Don’t put their name on their clothing. A stranger can use it to gain their trust. Go along when a young child uses a public washroom, even if they protest. Never assume there’s someone else watching out for your child. Always know where they are and who’s looking after them. And, in case the worst happens, keep an up-to-date photo (no more than six months old) with your child’s height, weight, eye and hair colour on the back, along with a description of any birth marks.

Allowing a 7 year old boy to play in a public park without adult supervision is considered a form of child neglect, at least in Canada. I am not saying they should throw this woman in jail, but she should at least get a warning, and possibly a visit from social services. It is all about protecting the child, LOM, that's why child abduction, and rape and murder cases are rare in Canada.

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This woman is neglecting her child. I don't know what type of neighborhood she lives in, but I much rather see her arrested, than watching the news and learning about another case of a missing child found dead in the woods

19 minutes to go...lol

Fireworks at midnight tonight, (9:00 Pacific), the world celebrates. You won't be missed Budman lol

Budman likes sheep, interesting...

Welcome back Bart, now we don't need Pete anymore, do we?

Lol, I will take this as a compliment

Midget porn eventually gets predictable and boring ;-)

Well at least we don't have people with shotguns lurking around our ATM's in Canda

I love it when LOM goes silent, are you guys presently conferring before making revelations? Common we are all adults here

It feels like the Berlin Wall fall, the Prague Spring, the D Day all over again