Sammy

Maybe they had a 'shift change' so to speak and whoever took control, after all those earlier flights, was itching to shoot something down so he could say he blew up the big bad Ukrainians. However the recorders could be useful in helping recreate exactly what happened. Maybe up until last week the Russians were in control as the ones training the rebels how to use the equipment. Then they left. You can be sure these 'advisers' were professionals and knew to be sure of their targets before firing. Maybe they used the commercial traffic as test targets for training. Wouldnt surprise me if some of the rebel crews that took over had never even seen a SAM before last month.

The Russians have already said if it got the recorders they would be turned over to the lead investigators. Considering it was the rebels that did it turning them over would be in the Russians best interests to remove any doubts that they were involved.

imo, just as a 3rd party, its not enough to say hacking for the events mentioned above. I see a good amount of corner checking when going through doors and such. A common practice. Except for a few times nobody was there. Could be checking for campers roasting weenies... and there are many here... or simply keeping in mind that corners are common spots for defrosters to be if you know a frozen enemy is near. There were a few times where I said to myself 'hmmm' why do that? Also, its so noisy with all the explosions I cant imagine that footsteps would have been a factor. However maybe eavesdrop? If I had that in my loadout I wouldnt tell my enemies.

FF is on for nukes. That is how it kills everybody. But penalties are not applied.

Yea it got posted as I was writing. All I can think is that the Russians took a huge gamble in training the rebels how to use them but without providing centralized air control. Hoping that they knew what they were shooting it. I suppose they thought they were shooting at another transport and since the world didnt really care about it the first time, do it again.

Certainly looks like a huge engine fire but the plane was still in control. More than likely one of the fuel tanks were ignited after that and it exploded considering the wreckage is that widespread.

Conspiracy theorists unite. This is actually the missing plane, they will say. But then the question will be what happened to the one that took off from Amsterdam. Another mystery.

Interesting points. I dont know how FF should be made to work in ftag in terms of freezing or spawning. My guess is that it would have to be reflective, meaning only the shooter gets the damage. But since FF has not been extensively tested in anything but standard games it could do with some discussions how it should work elsewhere.

As often happens people dont change unless something bad takes place. But yea I guess they put too much trust in those in possession of those launchers. "They" being all the airlines since MAL wasnt the only one that flew over that country on a routine basis.

Months?

Maybe it just means their hacks are better than your hacks.

Ah ok I didnt know that. Yea that leaves xfire, obs or something like that. I guess for quick 3-4 minute vids to upload xfire is best.

Well now they confirm it was a missile and have some kind of tracking data for it. They wont say where it came from but likely know that also. Or at least a very good idea.

console then enter /record filename. Then /stoprecord to stop it. At least its that way in cod4 and I assume in cod5. Later you can play it back and record with fraps or one of the other screen capture programs.

Hmm, well if this is so and the rebels do have such weapons then its likely they did it. Itchy trigger fingers and not making sure of their targets. Kind of hard to do when you dont have centralized air trafffic systems to know what is what.

Yup. Saw this yesterday and while legally it probably wont go very far it does show that the industry might need to be a bit more proactive in how it handles using real people for purely fictional stories that are not based on historical events. Unless it is an obvious parody, such as a pothead Bush in Harold and Kumar, or something like JFK fighting zombies. The more money you make the more careful you have to be.

Yup for it to be a shootdown it would have to have been a big missile and controlled. Not some shoulder fired heat seeking missile. Meaning a professional military that possesses such weapons and more importantly knows how to use them. I highly doubt this would have been deliberate while knowing what kind of plane it was. Keep in mind the US Navy, with its advanced weapons and tracking systems, once shot down an Airbus. Its not much condolence to the families but at least this time they can get the data recorders and find out, hopefully, what happened.

silence of the goats?

When I first saw the title of the thread I thought it said 'dicks'.

Just lacks all the puns of MXC.

That is interesting. For that to not happen the ice would have to be considered solid. Like the solid ice bubble. Meaning players hiding under the water could shoot out but be protected. Unless there is something else weird going on.

Another one rides the bus....

Most of the time they were also simply smart enough to fire from behind a long wall and wait for the redcoats to walk forward in a straight line out in the open.

Japanese do love their anime with huge tits.

Yes it would work but I would need to take something out to make room. And more importantly someone to make and rig the bunny. Or at least a head with the ears. However in the future there will be a bonus if you shoot someone that is flying in the air. Nobody is going to stop you hoppers from making a jump but it will make you a more attractive target. Or simply a good incentive for people to learn how to tag your candy asses.