Have you ever been playing in a game and been shot by the same player at the same spot and yet had no clue where they shot you from? I have and this happened on Waw DM server this morning. I immediately went to spectate to see what was up. I find this guy roaming outside the normal map tho it was, according to our accepted rules of engagement, okay for him to be there. When I saw what he was upto I turned on xfire and began videotaping him. At first he was just messing around and climbing and standing on tall high places I could in no way climb up on. Okay so thats no big deal as lots of people can do that tho I can't. Then he proceeded to get out of the normal playing field and climbing up on tall buildings and killing players inside the normal map. To be sure the only reason he could get to where he was at was because of the ace mod in the DM server. I noticed for all his hard time consuming work to get there he probably only had about 5 actual kills. I have a list of players who play this way every time they come into a map. Rarely have I ever seen anyone of them win, so begs the question: WHY DO THEY DO THIS? I am serious why do they do this? Is this their gaming style or what other possible reason do they play in such a manner as to risk getting kicked or banned say some admin that may consider these locations on the maps out of the map or glitching? It really doesn't matter what you call it they always seem to push the envelop when they play. Do any of you remember a player who use to play on our servers named bENT? Well he was just that kind of player. I never ever saw a map we played together that he wasn't way up high on top of things the normal player could never get to. Yet somehow undetected he would end up there. I just don't understand why you would go into a busy fun server only to try and ruin it for others with this mindset. First of all is it fair to everyone else you can get there when they can't? Or is it what the map maker really intended when he made the map? I believe in most cases the answer for both questions are NO! So again the question. WHY?