Hats off to you Rugger, as finding that middle ground is very difficult. Everyone like different things about them. I started with this clan back in the CTF days and miss them a lot! I like the TDM server, where we can vote on the game type (TDM or CTF), but this server seems to only have traffic on the weekends - wish I knew why. As far as the DM, I don't mind it and it has gone through many changes. But I have to say (and said it previously), I can't stand the "gimmicks", as Ter/Pete called them. As soon as the sentry guns come out, I am gone. Can't stand them! Or "buying" these gimmicks at all. Beartraps? Really? If traffic is up due to these things, then okay - I'm out voted and people like them and majority wins. Fortunately, my new PC plays COD5 very well and doesn't have the gimmicks (and traffic has been very high)...only true WW2 weapons (okay, modified a bit, but no modern weapons - not even the gunship). I'd move to COD4 if I wanted sentrys or helicopters. Just my opinion, but I hear you Hoth!