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Move in with me and you can use my spare PC. ? lol $500? Can't get much for that anymore. Maybe a 1/2 decent USED High end Dell? The Dell XPS is a decent computer. Some XPSs are better than there Alienware cousins. Can't overclock the CPU in a XPS but you can upgrade everything but the proprietary motherboard. I loved my old XPS 420. It had a Bluray burner and built in Wifi and Bluetooth and all sorts of cool shit. But it was old and hard to find 2gb sticks of DDR2 memory that would work in it. Worked fine with 4gb but it was kinda slow. This is a little beat up on the outside but it has a 3.9ghz i7 4770 (which is a decent 4 core 8 thread CPU) and 16gb of memory and a 1tb hdd and dedicated VisionTek Radeon HD 5450 2 GB graphics card. You can always throw a better video card in it but it will play COD4 just fine with that card in it. 1st thing I would do is, do a fresh install of windows 10 on it to get rid of all the Dell software that they come with.Or if you want to keep the Dell crap you can go on there web site and Download the recovery software and burn it to disk or put it on a USB thumb drive. It's a damn good PC For the money. $239.95 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-XPS-8700-i7-4770-3-40GHz-16GB-1TB-Windows-10-Desktop-Computer-AB625/264715555175?hash=item3da246d167:g:Bb0AAOSwjqxeo0Nj The Dell XPS power supplys are OK but I would upgrade it to at-least a 500w unit. They have something like a 380w power supply in them which isn't enough if you put a bigger video card in it. For the price I'm almost thinking about borrowing some money and buying it for myself lol. That CPU is almost twice as fast as mine is in most gaming benchmarks. If it doesn't work as advertised Ebay will pay to have it shipped back and give you a full refund, no questions asked.

Ryzen chips and x570 motherboards use DDR4 memory as well. So you would have to pretty much start from scratch. I'm going to have to do the same when it comes time to upgrade.

I sorta understand why they did this, but they should of went with a slightly larger die size instead of trying to stuff 8 cores and 8 threads on a 32nm die just to out do Intel in core count. It bit them rite in the ass.

For the lols. AMDs CMT (Clustered Multithreading) more like cluster fucked multithreading in the AMD Piledriver chips are quite different from any other chip. The Piledriver CPUs do indeed have 8 integer threads but only 4 usable FPU threads since they are clustered and share many resources such as L1 and L2 Cache. Which means a Piledriver has 1 usable thread per cluster on a 4 core chip and will show up as 8 logical processors in windows. lol SMT (Simultaneous Multithreading) is as you said a whole different ball game. The newer AMD chips use conventional SMT, but the Piledriver chips are unique and use CMT.

Logical cores for these chips are a little different. That's why there was so much confusion and also why this went to court. Logical cores are the number of Physical cores plus the number of threads times the hyperthread cores. Since these chips do not have any sort of "hyperthreading" Windows just adds the # of cores + the number of threads. 4 + 4 = 8. That is why it shows a total of 8 cores in when I benchmark in Cinebench and in Windows Resource Monitor.

@Ricko lmao

Ban that fucker lol

LMAO that's hilarious.

I got check for $60.84 for the 2 "8 core" CPUs that I have 2 days ago. Just cashed it this morning. Sucks that so many people filed for it. AMD had to pay out over 15 million smackers + court fees and we only got $30 per CPU by the time they divided up what was left after the lawyers and the plaintiff got there share. We were supposed to get like $300 per CPU. The greedy bastards. 8 core 8 thread my ass. Oh the last small update from Windows update did this. lol That's more like it eh? It now shows 4 cores with 4 threads. Or 8 Logical Processors.

My Fat furry bastard would destroy that. She's a 13lb Manx with the cutest little stubby fuzzball of a tail lol

Sweet guns. @HotRod55 I want a Colt single action army in 45LC really bad as a companion to my old Marlin 45LC leaver gun but damn are they expensive. You can buy 2 leaver guns for the price of a decent Colt single action army in 45LC. And here I always thought @HotRod55 was a ?? Hi-Point type of fella. But your OK in my book. lol

See why he needs wireless @BUDMAN ? It's bad enough when he trips over his own dick lol

He might need something wireless or he'll trip over the cord when he goes for a beverage lol. Lots of options available that will work with that laptop. It has a Headphone and Microphone jack, Bluetooth 4.2, USB 2.0, USB 3.0, and USB type C.

Glad you didn't get the Asus Full-Sized notebook. Asus designed the ASUS TUF Gaming A17 off of the smaller Asus ROG Zephyrus G15 GA502I which is a notebook with a decent 144hz ISP FHD 15" panel. The motherboard even has the same part # as the smaller G15 notebook. They actually put the G15 board in a larger chassis with a cheap 60hz display and overdrived or overclocked the display to get the 120hz rating and added a larger battery to take up the extra space. 1/2 the people that bought them returned them because of how horribly washed out and overly bright the display is at anything over 60hz and it's 30+ ms response time @ it's listed 120hz is absolutely horrible. And the overall build quality of the chassis and upgrade-ability is horrible. IPS-Type display lol. Another word for Generic,Made in some sweat shop in China from recycled parts? No wonder that laptop is now priced at $1099 with that awesome CPU in it. A similarly spec'ed laptop is $1700-$2000+. Asus fucked the A17 up by trying to build a sub $1200 "gaming laptop" out of a 15" Notebook. It has 1 of those damn worthless 2 in 1 Mic/Headphone jacks and only a single USB 2.0 port on the right side for a mouse. They should of atleast put a separate headphone and mic jack and a USB 3.0 port or 2 on the right side. Don't get me wrong, the Asus A17 is still a decent gaming rig but not nearly as good as it looks. @Mule needs help picking out a good wireless mouse and headset. Anyone?

Oh Well. They are still going to have the 32bit drivers available for download in there library just like they always have. I can still download drivers for my old GeForce4 MX440 or RIVA 128 directly off of there site. Just click Legacy in the drop down box. My 2 year old netbook and spare PC both have Win 10 pro 32 bit on them. I run Kodi and a couple game emulators that I can only get to work on a 32bit OS. Kodi does have a 64bit client in beta but I tried it and it's buggy as hell. Constant crashing,disconnects and alot of the features are just non functional. Don't plan on upgrading either 1 to 64bit. Does that mean that Windows will no longer update Win 10 32bit as well?

Yea I know @BUDMAN. That's how mine is and that is how I set up every PC that I've ever built in the last 20+ years. That's how his would be If he flips his CPU fan over. It's hard to explain since one else sees what I see. Doesn't matter if he has the fan on the back side of the CPU cooler as long as the CPU fan is blowing in the correct direction. His cpu fan is blowing in the incorrect direction and can't get the air it needs because of the exhaust fan and the CPU fan are blowing in Opposite directions. Bet you his CPU Temps are 20c + higher than they should be at idle. Guessing no one else seen that the fan on his CPU is facing the front of the case? "Facing" as in the back side (bearing side) of the fan is facing the CPU Cooler. <====[] []====> This person named Assassin7 did the same thing and while gaming his CPU temps went over 100c. Scroll down downto just over 1/2 way in this thread to GotchMasters post. he explains it better than I can. https://forum.wotlabs.net/index.php?/topic/25790-pc-temps/ He flipped the CPU fan over so that it was blowing in the rite direction and CPU temps went down to under 70c while gaming on an overclocked i5 3570K. Maybe this will help? explain what I'm talking about. Edited your pic in msPaint @BUDMAN lol.

Reviews on Amazon are 50/50 for the 2017-2019 Asus TUF series. Lots of problems with overheating,black screen and dead power bricks. The Asus TUF series with the Ryzen 7 3750h had problems with overheating and thermal throttling due to having only 2 small intake ports on the bottom that are nowhere near the fans. They quickly get up between 80c-100c+ while gaming. Asus under full benchmark load 85.5c average 101c max and throttling. HP under full benchmark load 70c average 88c max at full turbo. Heat is what kills most laptops. This is the 1 that @CW4 is talking about. It does look really really good. https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-IPS-Type-GeForce-Battery-TUF706IU-AS76/dp/B0863DFMV7/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&fst=as%3Aoff&qid=1587707462&refinements=p_n_intended_use_browse-bin%3A9647497011%2Cp_89%3AASUS%2Cp_n_size_browse-bin%3A7817234011%2Cp_n_feature_seven_browse-bin%3A18107821011%2Cp_n_feature_four_browse-bin%3A18107802011&rnid=676578011&s=pc&sr=1-1&swrs=D03F9F06E1FF0BA6655F9DEC4D763720&th=1 You can order it now but it's not available until June 4, 2020 which is a little over a month from now. Asus did a complete redesign of that laptop for the AMD Ryzen 7 4800H CPU. It cools much much better than last years ASUS TUF gaming laptops. And they put a 90WHr Battery which is almost twice the size that they had in last years model. Very tough choice because the HP has a better display and much better video card but I would have to pick the Asus. The asus has a kick ass 8 core CPU,a Huge battery,larger 1tb nvme pcie ssd,a really nice low profile RGB backlit keyboard and 1 more usb port than the HP has. Really both should come with at-least 2 type C ports which neither one has.

MOTHER FUCKER!!!!! lol

This one is about the best you can get for the money. It's last years model that's why it's on sale for $1,264 from it's original price of $1,799. There are only 2 in stock so if you want it you better hurry. HP Omen 17t Gaming Laptop 2019 Flagship, 17.3'' Full HD 144Hz G-Sync IPS Display, Intel Six-Core i7-8750H, 16GB DDR4, 16GB Optane PCIe SSD + 1TB HDD, 8GB GTX 1070 Thunderbolt Backlit KB BT 4.2 Win 10 https://www.amazon.com/HP-17t-Flagship-Six-Core-Thunderbolt/dp/B07XYXQSLR/ref=sr_1_27?dchild=1&keywords=gaming+laptop&qid=1587631482&refinements=p_n_size_browse-bin%3A7817234011&rnid=2242797011&s=electronics&sr=1-27 That thing would kick my desktop PCs ass. And it has a SWEET 17.3" Full HD 144Hz G-Sync ISP display panel. Asus has a few decent looking gaming laptops around that price point but the reviews are not the best. Lots of dead power brick problems and overheating issues. This fella did a bunch of real gaming benchmarks on 1. Very impressive for a laptop.

@ANGU5 he has 2 fans within inches of each other that are sucking against each other. The rear exhaust fan is blowing air out the back of the case and the CPU fan is blowing air towards the Front of the case. Neither fan will move much air like that. If he flips the CPU fan over, not the cpu cooler (Fans are directional) so that it blows toward the rear exhaust fan the CPU will run much much cooler. This is how his CPU fan and rear exhaust fan are currently configured.

Atleast they can remove the crap. Hope everything goes good and you recover quickly.