Timmah!

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Seemingly, the J&J & Astra Zeneca delivery vehicle (an Adenovirus) is the likely culprit & would explain why Pfizer's vaccine doesn't, as it doesn't (use a virus).

Oh, & I'm here to help. (50 years of grammar, diction & punctuation experience; I actually paid attention)

Ahh, you attribute to others your own behavior. Never answered a single, baseless assertion. And won't. Because you can't. Your 'hit a nerve' is, interestingly, your original motivation for interjecting your useless commentary. Still won't defend any of your baseless comments. Because you can't. I tell people to have people wash their hands & you come running in to claim I shit on you. And you really don't know the 5th-grade difference between pier & peer? Or your & you're? But you ostensibly practice medicine? Can't make this shit up. Except the parts you did.

So, no facts? More ad hominem? I mean, I'm having a conversation with someone who doesn't know the difference between peer & pier. If your ability to practice medicine is anywhere on par with your ability to practice basic grammar & spelling, I wouldn't want you coming anywhere near me. There. Take that! Dumbass. (please feel free to get back on-topic).

You: Facts = Drama Queen I bet your [sic] fun at parties! (two ad hominem in one response) *you're Me: Wash your hands. Take some remedial grammar.

Ok, so 'no' from you on all counts. Me: Wash your hands (have others do so before they touch you [it could save your life]). You: That's harsh. You're shitting on us! Me: People die. Wash your hands. You: That's flippant! You're discouraging people. It's the worse [sic] thing you can do. *worst Me: Blah blah, wash your hands. You: I'm all for it. They cut people's legs off in the Civil War. You're a Monday Morning Quarterback. Every opinion is of value and I appreciate yours. Sorry I helped hijack this. Me: You're avoiding the facts. Wash your hands You: You're being inflammatory. I'm here to help. P.m. me if you want to make a difference. Me: Nobody addressed you before you interjected your feelings. Wash your hands You: I've called you out multiple times. You're stuck on my Civil War comment. You wanna be part of the problem or solution? Stop throwing rocks. Me: You don't' know me. Wash your hands. You: I don't know you. Ok, wash your hands. You made a blanket statement. Me: Please explain. Wash your hands. You: I sense your ego involved. I know you are, but what am I? I'm willing to discuss making a difference on this issue. I'm here to help. Me: Wash your hands That was the point I was making before you jumped in with your hurt feelings. And helped the conversation's productivity with your ad hominems, assumptions, deflections, & bizarre, irrelevant Civil War anecdote. Wash your hands. Every time. I'm here to help.

Please, now that you've walked all that blathering back... except for the new 'blanket statement' assertion; since you felt it worthy to take the time to make the claim, explain in as granular of detail as possible what the statement was & in what ways it was a 'blanket' statement. My commentary was to the effect (that) I'm hesitant to go to a hospital unless absolutely necessary because 100,000 people get killed from something that happens to them there. Would you like to know, do you think the average joe would like to know that tidbit of information as it would relate to any activity? And that a very simple thing you learn when you're 5 years old could save your life?: Asking someone to wash their hands before they touch you or any of the shit in the room? Good idea? Yet you called it flippant? Why? Please explain how that threw anybody under the bus? Facts are facts. Those are some, as I see it, VERY IMPORTANT facts... and a VERY good, simple, actionable prophylactic measure to protect one's life. But, apparently, what we learn when we're 5 somehow now requires a Doctorate in Medicine to put into practice; otherwise, even the mere suggestion hazards one to be relegated to the status of an armchair quarterback. Unless, of course, one's ego is more-important than someone else's life. So don't even discuss it.

You know exactly nothing about my community contribution to situation. And I stand by my statement of not going to a hospital unless absolutely required. Don't forget to wash your hands. https://youtu.be/HKybDdGHZHE

As part of a conversation of which you originally were not, I was commenting on my hesitancy to visit a hospital unless I needed to. Didn't tell anyone to not go. You decided to chime in with your feelings & how you were thrown under the bus because I quoted statistics of 10's of thousands of people dying due to poor hygiene. That's a heads-up for anybody that does visit a hospital to be sure to ask anyone that's going to touch them to firstly wash their hands. That's called potentially life-saving, useful information. Your useless interlocution was to express how it hurt your feelings & was kinda harsh & that people got their legs cut off during the Civil War. Have a great day. Also: You're.

I was a registered nurse, not that it would be necessary to understand information readily available. I like how you avoid the facts & throw out deflections, straw men & ad hominems instead of giving the subject due acknowledgement. 'Flippant, monday morning quarterback, soldiers getting their legs cut-off in the Civil War, been happening for years.' Hey, some soldier contracted an infection in 1863 due to a gunshot wound & they had to cut-off their leg, so that's one of your apparent apologies for a NOSOCOMIAL (hospital-acquired) infection in 2021. You using your prefrontal cortex or amygdala for this conversation? (that's a rhetorical question).

Hey, I appreciate it. We're talking past-tense, as I exited the health care field some years ago. Just bringing my experiences & knowledge to bear on what I think is a criminally pervasive problem that has been needlessly occurring for years. Wonder how many family members know that their loved one didn't get to come back home because someone didn't feel like washing their hands.

That was a weak apology; this shit's been going on for years. I can't count the times a nurse or a doctor took offense when I diplomatically reminded them they needed to wash their hands before touching the next patient. You know as well as I that this intransigence has been occurring for decades. DECADES. This shit isn't new. When I began working in healthcare in the '90s.... almost a quarter century- 25 years ago I began- this was an issue. When I exited the healthcare field not so long ago, it was still a major issue. Since then, even up to today, it still is an issue. We're talking 10 people an hour that will die today because of this. So, where are these amazing strides? Some of this is because of a hectic pace & being overworked. A major portion however is because people don't like getting cracked hands or continuously taking the time to wash or sanitize their hands during a heavy caseload of rounds. But when the consequence is that you're likely going to kill someone, that's just not good enough. You do realize that at least 25% of ICU blood infections are caused by this lack of hygiene alone? It would seem to me, that if these deaths were so very worrisome to you, your initial response would have at least made mention of this. But it didn't. You just complained about how 'harsh' pointing-out this fact was. Ever heard that part about first do no harm? Unless you just can't be arsed to wash yer fucking hands.... then it's ok to kill someone. FOH.

Gonna have to pick some up today; never tried it.

@tsw 8.5 Ever us Weber Chicago Steak Seasoning or McCormick's Montreal Steak Seasoning?

It's a little harsh? 100,000 people lose their lives in a single year mainly because of poor hygiene practices by health care workers... & that's in hospitals alone, & your issue is not with that so much as that fact merely being mentioned? Splendid. The only people that should take offence are those who lose a family member because someone didn't properly clean their hands.

Good stuff! What seasoning, temp & how long?

Ahh, the realm of non-sequitur. Your free trial of 'pay attention to me' has expired.

On that subject, I'm not - perhaps to some, surprisingly- a fan of U.S. hospitals. Avoid them when at all possible. Why? Mainly nosocomial infections. 100,000 people die every year in U.S. health care facilities mainly because of poor hygiene practices of doctors, nurses & other health care workers. Deaths caused by the very people that are supposed to heal. Because people are too lazy to wash their hands between patients. Now there's some obscenely criminal irony.

Did they get it to you fast?

Well, this particular subject. I've had the honor of taking care of people while they were dying, sat in the room with them witnessing their last minutes, even as their family couldn't be bothered to visit them in their last days. After a year of people on manifold media platforms spouting uninformed opinions or outright lying for dissembling reasons, costing others their lives, my patience on this subject is about as thin as it could be on any.

Hey! Congrats on a lotta stupid in one paragraph. Asking me if I worked for Phizer was an invitation for sarcasm. Also: Fuck you. Have a great day.

Several of the McDonald's franchises around here are owned by a single family. They have a card they give to delivery people & punch once for each delivery... get 10 punches, get a free meal. I use one occasionally, but most I give away to first responders & people who look like they could use one. I could eat for 2 months off what I've accumulated. My favorite is usually the spicy chicken sammich/ buttermilk sammich combo with a sweet tea, usually:

@Sharpe Will get back to you. There are links in another comment I posted in another thread for informational purposes. The reason I posted none in this one was because it wasn't approaching a debate until you contended some points. And the Latin' wasn't fancy, it's a simple way of saying that you're gonna contend a point repeatedly because you disagree with the proper course of action; it's a common result; usually occurring later in the process.