Timmah!

Please, now that you've walked all that blathering back... except for the new 'blanket statement' assertion; since you felt it worthy to take the time to make the claim, explain in as granular of detail as possible what the statement was & in what ways it was a 'blanket' statement. My commentary was to the effect (that) I'm hesitant to go to a hospital unless absolutely necessary because 100,000 people get killed from something that happens to them there. Would you like to know, do you think the average joe would like to know that tidbit of information as it would relate to any activity? And that a very simple thing you learn when you're 5 years old could save your life?: Asking someone to wash their hands before they touch you or any of the shit in the room? Good idea? Yet you called it flippant? Why? Please explain how that threw anybody under the bus? Facts are facts. Those are some, as I see it, VERY IMPORTANT facts... and a VERY good, simple, actionable prophylactic measure to protect one's life. But, apparently, what we learn when we're 5 somehow now requires a Doctorate in Medicine to put into practice; otherwise, even the mere suggestion hazards one to be relegated to the status of an armchair quarterback. Unless, of course, one's ego is more-important than someone else's life. So don't even discuss it.

You know exactly nothing about my community contribution to situation. And I stand by my statement of not going to a hospital unless absolutely required. Don't forget to wash your hands. https://youtu.be/HKybDdGHZHE

As part of a conversation of which you originally were not, I was commenting on my hesitancy to visit a hospital unless I needed to. Didn't tell anyone to not go. You decided to chime in with your feelings & how you were thrown under the bus because I quoted statistics of 10's of thousands of people dying due to poor hygiene. That's a heads-up for anybody that does visit a hospital to be sure to ask anyone that's going to touch them to firstly wash their hands. That's called potentially life-saving, useful information. Your useless interlocution was to express how it hurt your feelings & was kinda harsh & that people got their legs cut off during the Civil War. Have a great day. Also: You're.

I was a registered nurse, not that it would be necessary to understand information readily available. I like how you avoid the facts & throw out deflections, straw men & ad hominems instead of giving the subject due acknowledgement. 'Flippant, monday morning quarterback, soldiers getting their legs cut-off in the Civil War, been happening for years.' Hey, some soldier contracted an infection in 1863 due to a gunshot wound & they had to cut-off their leg, so that's one of your apparent apologies for a NOSOCOMIAL (hospital-acquired) infection in 2021. You using your prefrontal cortex or amygdala for this conversation? (that's a rhetorical question).

Hey, I appreciate it. We're talking past-tense, as I exited the health care field some years ago. Just bringing my experiences & knowledge to bear on what I think is a criminally pervasive problem that has been needlessly occurring for years. Wonder how many family members know that their loved one didn't get to come back home because someone didn't feel like washing their hands.

That was a weak apology; this shit's been going on for years. I can't count the times a nurse or a doctor took offense when I diplomatically reminded them they needed to wash their hands before touching the next patient. You know as well as I that this intransigence has been occurring for decades. DECADES. This shit isn't new. When I began working in healthcare in the '90s.... almost a quarter century- 25 years ago I began- this was an issue. When I exited the healthcare field not so long ago, it was still a major issue. Since then, even up to today, it still is an issue. We're talking 10 people an hour that will die today because of this. So, where are these amazing strides? Some of this is because of a hectic pace & being overworked. A major portion however is because people don't like getting cracked hands or continuously taking the time to wash or sanitize their hands during a heavy caseload of rounds. But when the consequence is that you're likely going to kill someone, that's just not good enough. You do realize that at least 25% of ICU blood infections are caused by this lack of hygiene alone? It would seem to me, that if these deaths were so very worrisome to you, your initial response would have at least made mention of this. But it didn't. You just complained about how 'harsh' pointing-out this fact was. Ever heard that part about first do no harm? Unless you just can't be arsed to wash yer fucking hands.... then it's ok to kill someone. FOH.

Gonna have to pick some up today; never tried it.

@tsw 8.5 Ever us Weber Chicago Steak Seasoning or McCormick's Montreal Steak Seasoning?

It's a little harsh? 100,000 people lose their lives in a single year mainly because of poor hygiene practices by health care workers... & that's in hospitals alone, & your issue is not with that so much as that fact merely being mentioned? Splendid. The only people that should take offence are those who lose a family member because someone didn't properly clean their hands.

Good stuff! What seasoning, temp & how long?

Ahh, the realm of non-sequitur. Your free trial of 'pay attention to me' has expired.

On that subject, I'm not - perhaps to some, surprisingly- a fan of U.S. hospitals. Avoid them when at all possible. Why? Mainly nosocomial infections. 100,000 people die every year in U.S. health care facilities mainly because of poor hygiene practices of doctors, nurses & other health care workers. Deaths caused by the very people that are supposed to heal. Because people are too lazy to wash their hands between patients. Now there's some obscenely criminal irony.

Did they get it to you fast?

Well, this particular subject. I've had the honor of taking care of people while they were dying, sat in the room with them witnessing their last minutes, even as their family couldn't be bothered to visit them in their last days. After a year of people on manifold media platforms spouting uninformed opinions or outright lying for dissembling reasons, costing others their lives, my patience on this subject is about as thin as it could be on any.

Hey! Congrats on a lotta stupid in one paragraph. Asking me if I worked for Phizer was an invitation for sarcasm. Also: Fuck you. Have a great day.

Several of the McDonald's franchises around here are owned by a single family. They have a card they give to delivery people & punch once for each delivery... get 10 punches, get a free meal. I use one occasionally, but most I give away to first responders & people who look like they could use one. I could eat for 2 months off what I've accumulated. My favorite is usually the spicy chicken sammich/ buttermilk sammich combo with a sweet tea, usually:

@Sharpe Will get back to you. There are links in another comment I posted in another thread for informational purposes. The reason I posted none in this one was because it wasn't approaching a debate until you contended some points. And the Latin' wasn't fancy, it's a simple way of saying that you're gonna contend a point repeatedly because you disagree with the proper course of action; it's a common result; usually occurring later in the process.

@KaptCrunch @TBB When you guys gonna show something you prepare? Doesn't have to be fancy. Would be nice to see different people show a few pics now & then of what they like to make.

Because I have a particular viewpoint that doesn't jibe with someone else's sentiment means I'm a dick. The majority of the people in this group are over 30 & would do well to have the vaccine. So, if I disagree with you thinking I'm a dick because other people disagree with me, by that logic, you also are being a dick, since I disagree with you. And @YACCster, you should be the last person to 'heart' anyone for dickish criticality. But I like the general statement of 'I understand what Sharpe is trying to say' without any specificity. Much easier than coming with supporting facts & references explaining one's position. You do realize there's thousands of people that died because people needlessly spread the virus. I believe that people that don't want to get vaccinated should be barred from public venues, so they don't kill others with their inconsideration. Their attitude is 'fuck them.' So, fuck them. Many have blood on their hands just as surely as if they walked-up & shot someone in the head. Worse actually, because at least that'd be a quick death compared to protracted, cascading multiple organ failure or a nice, slow suffocation due to pulmonary interstitial fluid accumulation. But let's go with the 'I'm being a dick' premise, since it's more convenient.

Well, there you go, well on your way to make a counter argument. Now the next step is to research the very questions you posited, make a statement of what you believe to be fact & post what you believe are supporting results with links & citations. And then, of course, what one considers 'surprising' could be open to personal interpretation, for starters. This path, as you've determined it thus far is the one heading down argumentum ad infinitum/Ad nauseum. You're not taking a definite position arguing points much less presenting a counterargument. Here, if you really wanna have a debate: https://bit.ly/32PI2qF

No counterclaim, supporting evidence, citations. 1 ad hominem. Good stuff.

Surprisingly strong production & casting & acting: GET OVER HERE!!!

You should still get at least one shot of the vaccine, even if you've already had COVID: Here's why: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/19/health/covid-vaccine-single-dose.html .Dr. Krammer led another of the new studies, which showed that people who have had Covid-19 and received one dose of a vaccine experienced more severe side effects from the inoculation and had more antibodies compared with those who had not been infected before. But one shot of either the Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna vaccine significantly changed the picture: It amplified the amount of antibodies in their blood by a thousandfold — “a massive, massive boost,” said Andrew T. McGuire, an immunologist at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle, who led the study. Flush with antibodies, samples from all of the participants could neutralize not only B.1.351, but also the coronavirus that caused the SARS epidemic in 2003. In fact, the antibodies seemed to perform better than those in people who had not had Covid and had received two doses of a vaccine. Multiple studies have suggested that the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines are about five times less effective against the variant.