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Welcome back Morris...

Great research Dee.. Let's hear it for the media drumming up business on a slow news day... Everyone can now untie their panties lol...

It's it tradition for illionois governors to do time? Lol

NickTheGrip Shamu Disappointing to see the lack of response to a topic such as this. Give us chance Sham - not all of us have access to the internet all day - LOL I agree with Deejay's comments whole heartedly While FDR knew the right thing to do was to enter WW2, he simply could not get the American people to buy into a war 4000 miles away in either direction. The age of weapons that could reach around the world were, in most people's eyes, still in the realm of Science Fiction. Little did everyone know in the US that Hitler was on the verge of developing the first ICBM and the world's first Nuclear bomb was right behind it, which would have brought the war home to US soil in dramatic and horrific fashion. Fortunately for the free world, Japan, desperate to conquer the entire Pacific rim made one of the two costliest mistakes of WW2 (the other one being Hitler invading Russia before he completed the conquest of Western Europe.) I think it was Admiral Yamamoto who said it best. "I am afraid we have simply awakened the sleeping Giant" (or words to that effect) How right he was. This surely was the turning point in the war, and the beginning of the end of Japan and Germany To all the servicemen and women and civilians who lost their lives on that day, Thank you and God Bless. If not for you, I would most likely be typing this in German, as would most of the world. (no offense to our German cousins, it is simply historical projection. +1

I saw the same thing Logan... Amusing to say the least but good for a laugh... Would look great on your lawn specially with all that snow... Merry Xmas buddy..

Happy birthday again you guys.. I hope u had a great day u bunch of idiots.. Cheers

Welcome to the group guys..

You know what stinks Gorilla.. I work for the Calgary Flames at the Saddledome and I can't enjoy that cold beer.. Bastards!

Great project guys.. Sounds exciting.. Can't wait to see it..

dawgy How about the Seahawks game? Do they football up there in the Pacific Northwest?.. lol

Hey Dawgy! have a great birthday buddy... Miss u on the servers! And Hoth! have a great birthday buddy.. Go Steelers! on thursday..

Nice one...

Hey Laz & Joe.. I need an address to send off your winnings.. Pm me with that info please.

Lol great one

Have a great day guys.. Cheers

Welcome to the forums.. Enjoy your gaming experience.

Welcome to the forums and servers. Cheers

Great introduction Sexy.. Good to see u on the forums. Yes, envite your friends and enjoy the servers buddy.. Cheers

I will be there later... Cheers to then.

lol..Great end to that post Dragon... Nice one...

I think he was saying.. Lets do that shit again boys!..hahahaha

Happy Birthday Google.. Have a great day buddy..Cheers

PrimalFear Gomer Pyle PrimalFear This is not a new subject, we have talked about it in the politics section where it belongs. First thing the gay community asked for was tolerance, once they achieved tolerance they expected acceptance, now they are seeking celebration and the changing of our laws for their own special interests. Baby steps vs Brass tacks: Marriage (Matrimony) is a sacrament, a holy sacred union between a man and a woman and god. Homosexuality is an abomination against god. There are tons of passages but one will do, weather people want to confront the issue or not, it is our culture and religion of the overwhelming majority of our country and therefore valid to mention. But inappropriate to debate. (Leviticus 20:13 If a man has sexual intercourse with a male as one has sexual intercourse with a woman, the two of them have committed an abomination. They must be put to death; their blood guilt is on themselves.) Gay marriage is asking holy people to condone an abomination against god. (not gonna happen, not realistic and certainly not reasonable) The only solution I see to this problem is to create a civil union process, a contract where any two adults can agree to share property from a strictly legal standpoint, it could be two siblings, a male and female or two people of the same sex. It does not ask people with biblical viewpoints to condone anything, while still offering a solution to include all people in their right to their own pursuit of happiness. I believe it is the only solution that has any chance of passing a bill to include everyone without attacking our culture our religion or our freedom. I'm not necessary speaking my own viewpoints but rather representing those of many many people in this country and we have to be real about it. They want a bill to include them, they will have to meet the majority in the middle with something that both sides can live with, plain and simple. This is how we have done it in my state, they get the rights while still protecting the sacrament of Matrimony: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_partnership_in_Washington PrimalFear, I agree that the civil union is the least painful process to end this strife and still give gays civil rights. However one thing I cannot understand about many Christians is the absolute certainty and conceit that their God is everyones God and should be judged accordingly. So how do you know that they are following the same God you are Primal? And if they are not then how can you deny them marriage by their God? Now if they are getting married by a Baptist minister of your sect then by all means feel free to admonish the minister by not following your particular flavor of religion but that has nothing to do with the gays themselves or their rights that you take for granted. I just want one question answered in all of this, what right, justification does anyone have to speak for everyone in this country with absolute conviction and conceit that they speak for God. By the way, your God came to me in person and told me that you were wrong, now go ahead and try to prove that I'm wrong. It is just as wrong to say because it is written in the Bible that God spoke to you and said it was wrong, That is your bible not everyones bible, go ask a Hindu what he thinks of Leviticus 20:13, I'm quite sure he would not find it in his bible. Tell me how you would feel if he started to quote passages from his bible and tell you how wrong you are in believing differently. How is it that Americans are so conceited and self righteous that they cannot entertain the thought there are other religions in the world that don't agree with their beliefs, I simply do not understand this. Most people here are disagreeing on what Christian sect they belong to in particular and what that sect is saying about the subject matter and their beliefs and completely ignor and evade the reality that other religions exist have the right exist in this world that may believe differently, and that my friends is the crux of many of the problems of this world, and unfortuantly with the possible exception of the Dahli Lama who does preach religious tollerance most other religions of this world are just as intorlerant and conceited as Christianity, if we are ever to have peace in this world and attain the one fundamental of Christianity, (do unto others etc.) that everyone seems to miss entirely, then we are going to have to come to understand the real basis of the message and take the high road. Nit picking on individual rights as to being able to marry or not according to THEIR God is missing the boat, perhaps we should really be more concerned as to the most heinous sin and most fundamental one, and that is the one of killing each other off by the millions. But do to state agendas that is the one thing no one seems to want to talk about or reverse. Your doing exactly what I feared would happen, your arguing whether people of faith should or should not have an opinion of life based on that faith. That is a useless direction to take and you will only frustrate yourself, it would be equally useless to try and tell a gay person to not be gay. Keep in mind that biblical point of view that I posted is not necessarily my own. The issue here is that the vast overwhelming majority of the USA are people of faith, believers in a just and loving god that use the bible as their compass in life. That book makes it very clear in several chapters how homosexuality should be looked at. We have to respect that people follow it and believe in it and leave it at that. But let's look at the other two great religions for a second... The Torah is the primary source for Jewish views on homosexuality. It states that: "[A man] shall not lie with another man as [he would] with a woman, it is a to'eva" (Leviticus 18:22). The Muslim Koran: Our'an (7:80-84)- "...For ye practice your lusts on men in preference to women: ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds.... And we rained down on them a shower (of brimstone)" - An account that is borrowed from the Biblical story of Sodom. Muslim scholars through the centuries have interpreted the "rain of stones" on the town as meaning that homosexuals should be stoned, since no other reason is given for the people's destruction. (The story is also repeated in suras 27 and 29). Those 3 great religions represent almost everyone in the USA, at least in terms of percentages. I don't think that either of us can expect that it is realistic for people to give up the afterlife that they believe in to accommodate people that their creator has identified as essentially "unholy" all in the name of equality when those respective books mean more to those people than the Constitution itself may/does. That is of course absurd and would not yield any kind of result. It is important for us to respect that each of those people from each of those religions have their beliefs, whether you or me or anyone else agrees with them or not, to do anything other than that is a useless waste of time and energy. As Americans we have a responsibility to "embrace" that those people have those beliefs and to try to work out a mutual cooperation to both respect those great religions while still upholding the Constitution. Our opinions of those religions are not valid, it doesn't matter what we think about them. All that matters is that we understand that they exist and are valid and important when it comes to creating law because those religions will not be checked at the door on election day and I have nothing bad to say about any of them, I have only mentioned them because this is an issue of morality for them, and what they think matters, especially when they represent "most" people in a democratic process. I want to post this to anyone reading it (not directed at you Pyle) Rugger has made it very clear that bashing of any religion is a violation and will not be tolerated, so let's be careful what we say about any of these these great religions please. I don't want to cause any problems with anybody for any reason. There is no need for that and we have members in this clan from all 3 religions and their views might differ from those I stated as well. Prime is correct, not personal attacks on someone faith or religion will be tollerated. One thing we can all agree is more harm has been to mankind in the name of faith... Im a born and raised catholic but i wont take the sole word of the Bible for God lives in my heart and in my faith..not on the pages they taught me in church or catholic school.. I praise those who use faith to guide their lives, but its wrong to use your own faith to prevent others in the persute of happiness and marriage.

Welcome to the forums and Servers.. I hope to see u more ingame..... Cheers