RealEstufa

Would it be better to have some kind of command (like !fu boomboom) each player could type on a map to say if they like or don't like a map (votes tied to users guid so they can't vote more than once, but can change their vote, also probably let them know when they join or a server hint)? That way over time, maps that are heavily voted down don't get added back to the rotation in the future?

doubly liked for the boomboom command!

I don't think alot of people will understand the change or go for change. You see how a new mod drives them away already. Why mess it up more? Maybe a different server for this but not freezetag.

If society listened to every grump opposed to change, we would still be plebing it up for our masters in the stone age. also, I have a hard time believing someone would have difficulty 'understanding' such a change.

 

Every new mod we have people bitchin' and moanin', but the server population remains steady; I don't see this as an exception to that rule. The entire point of this suggestion is based on the freeztag server, I and most who are reading this are much less concerned with another server.

I play on a few servers that allow everyone to vote for a map/style of play at the beginning of the round. It's a fantastic design that I feel would greatly improve the freeztag mod while possibly adding a little extra spice (shotty & knives only mode). I feel like the old school set map rotation method is a bit out of date. I'm not sure how much work this would require however, but I'd love to hear other people's thoughts.

Why are you trying to get my favorite weapon nerfed... what is wrong with you. FU FU FU

 

It also depends on well you can use the 308. Like Sammy said, it doesn't work well for all circumstances. I have often lost battles to p90 fuckers, excuse me, users. 

 

The M16 is more accurate than 308, and if I had a 10ms ping, doesn't matter what kind of map, that's the wep I would use.

 

M16 would never be worth it for my run and gun style. Too often I find myself needing to quickly off 3 or more players immediately, it's just not possible with the m16

Given up on knifing.

With the current hit detection issues, there is no point in knifing other than when you sneak up behind somebody. And the idea that different weapons produce different knife speeds is some wonky stuff.

Uh huh. Just because you cant use certain weapons doesnt mean others cant use them well and constantly shoot you with them. And yes the 308 is very good if you aim. It sucks if you dont. In an equal close battle the P90 and MP5 beat the 308 every time. Especially if you hip fire spray. OTOH it has the longest reload/raise/drop time of any AR. Only 2/3 of the magazine capacity compared to the ak/m16/hk416. Is a tiny bit slower for melee attacks. And so on. Meaning perks like hip fire, fast hands, and scavenger are more useful than they would be with other weapons in the class. Trade offs.

There is a reason Kilmaley, boom, mexican, tagger, *sometimes huskie now that I have shown her the light, alpha, bexx, and plenty more including myself use the 308 religiously. It drastically outshines every other weapon. 

 

It's simple really, the 308's positives far outweigh using anything else. In other words, the proof is in the pudding =P

I can start with the weapons:

308 - Use this for every map, in every situation

mp90 - meh

ak47 - never use this weapon, ever. Never ever, ever never ever.

Other m4 looking thing - meh

m16 - only use this if you are huskie, and even then it makes no sense when you have a 308. So never use this... oh unless you plan on hiding in a corner somewhere trying to snipe.

All other weapons - never use them, and all the other close/mid range weapons are worthless compared to the 308. With our custom maps, there are soooooo many huge open spaces that you need the precision of a 308 and you have to make due with it in close rage situations.

Sniper rifles - LOL

Shotties - What are you? A chileno?



NoobToobs - Use this, but then fall into a ditch while on fire, and continue to burn in hell for eternity. kthx

DONE, your welcome boomboom!!

In your video I see the center of your screen point behind him, then infront of him then he is positioned in the center when you finally get the kill. The gun did what it does best. 

 

I have bad aim, but I only blame hit registration when my aim is dead on. And no, I consider myself average skill. 

 

@@RealEstufa

Weird because I consider myself a very skilled fps player and you kill me plenty =P

 

If I am using not using the sights with that gun, I won't even try to keep my gun on who I am shooting at because I've seen the bullets fly everywhere but where the gun is aimed. I think I still have a video where I wasn't using my sights and headshot you from far away when you weren't even center on my screen.

 

 

The hip fire from Saritch 308 is like a beam. It doesn't spread like the other weapons.

Two skilled players saying two entirely different things. I have a feeling none of us really know what the hell is going on, but it's obviously wonky as fuck and varies greatly =P

I think that most of that video shows simply how bad the 308 is when not using the sights. I've played the clip several times in slow-mo, the shots start out behind the enemy, then they move immediately to in front of him. Then around 17-18 seconds you can see one bullet hit the ground to the left side and then another hit the right side of the player.

 

If I am using not using the sights with that gun, I won't even try to keep my gun on who I am shooting at because I've seen the bullets fly everywhere but where the gun is aimed. I think I still have a video where I wasn't using my sights and headshot you from far away when you weren't even center on my screen.

That might fly if I hadn't tested it with multiple other weapons including pistols. Also, I still have to shoot in front of people to kill them when they are moving.. Again, no other server even comes close to that sort of awful hit detection. It's exclusive to this mod, especially the most recent version.

Not sure what this was, both had similar pings, didn't seem laggy. I can't believe it's because I should have used iron sights at that range.

 

I'm sorry but this is a perfect example of just how absurdly screwed up the hit detection is at this point. The bullets are literally flying through the person and this happens to me every match. I actually end up aiming a solid foot in front of a moving target... This is not how it should be and every other mod I play is a shining example of just how ridiculous this has gotten. The mod is functionally broken by any normal/pro gamers standards.

 

The mechanics demonstrated in this video are a CLEAR indication of just how broken this mod is, in my humble opinion that isn't even debatable. I also think it's a bit much to tell people who point this out "then don't play here" and a bit unfair given that, most players would prefer an older version of the mod that isn't completely fucked up than have to play the current derped one.

 

This issue is compounded by players like myself who have mastered bunny hoping and quick zig zag movements making us hell on digital earth to consistently kill. This inevitably causes more drama and stresses people out; a cascading effect of ultimate frustration that in my opinion should be at the FAR FAR FAR forefront of drastic problems needed to be remedied asap. Who cares about perks and classes when you can't even hit somebody a few feet in front of you. It's literally worse than battlefield 4 net coding (which is atrocious). I don't know what else to say, people still play on the server because the community is awesome (love me some idiots yall!!! CACAW CACAW), but the mod is simply out of friggin wack.

 

I'm assuming a quick fix would be making hip fire like 300 million times more accurate to be in line with how the original cod4 is? And that is only half of the problem, when people start moving, even aiming down the sights is incredibly inaccurate. Nothing more frustrating then sneaking up behind a player, and being 3 feet away, unloading an entire clip without a single hitmarker only for them to turn around and blast you.

 

Again, this is only an issue with this particular mod/server. Every other server I have ever played on at any time ever in the known past/present in cod4 with latency ranging from 30-200, I have never experienced such awful hit detection. It's like egregiously wacked the frig out =P. 

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2408705,00.asp

 

I have this love it!

I've only ever used logitech g9 and g9x since they were released. It's a damn shame they discontinued them. For the first few months on the mw2 server mine would randomly turn off for a few seconds at a time. I had to take it apart, buy a new mouse/usb cord, and replace it. Pain in the frukkin ass.

@@RealEstufa I just finished reading through this entire thread after just returning from a week of vacationing with my family. I would first like to say that you seem to me to be a nice kid, and I have enjoyed playing with you. (yes I called you kid, and I am pretty sure you are not much older than my oldest child) After reading through some of your replies to fellow clan members, it is somewhat disappointing to see such a smug, snarky and superior tone come through that does not appear to be just in the way of needling people. It seems to me from some of your replies that you almost have a real 'disdain' for some of the other members of this clan involved in the discussion. I would suggest to you that the tone you use when debating people on the merits of your position can go a long way. Do with it what you will.

 

 

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I use the same yitch config derplord. And those things you mentioned are really the only changes it has. It already was personal when you accused me of something I didn't do.

Real now I'm not trying to start anything. For some unknown reason I like playing with you......buy I was one of the nights when you stated you did have a reload bind. Now I don't know if you were being a smart ass or what not. I'm just sayin.......own up to yo shit. I always tell my kid you won't get in as much trouble for the truth.

No worries queenie I enjoy playing with you as well! That was just yaccster and I messing around.

I tweak my config.

 

LOLOLOLOL. I've seen this type of logic before, "I do it but for some reason it's unfair when you do it. This is going to be good...

 

 

I ain't rocking any promod shit tho. Like PitbullPete said to you last week when you WERE using that reload cancel bind," leave and take that shit out, we are here for fun and there is no reason to be using Promod binds here"

 

I remember when Real first came into our servers, nowhere near where he is now... just saying. Virtually impossible to hit anymore.

 

and WTF does tweaking your config with Promod stuff have to do with the tubes being overpowered? Sounds like a bullshit excuse to me.

I never used, nor will I ever need to use a reload cancel bind you derptwat. Excuse the language but I'm done dealing with derpos telling me I'm doing something that I'm not. I know it's frustrating at times dealing with someone who is as skilled as I am, but what can one do eh? The funniest part about this comment is that you're insinuating that your tweaks are somehow different than mine. All that demonstrates is a complete lack of knowledge on the subject; a strong ignorance that reeks of derp.

 

 

I remember when Real first came into our servers, nowhere near where he is now... just saying. Virtually impossible to hit anymore.

 

It's almost like... like... I got better over time? What a fucking bizarre concept right? Something fishy there!

 

Sounds like a bullshit excuse to me.

That is exactly what I was thinking about your entire comment.

 

 

 

For the record, it's not like I was some derp who randomly and suddenly became a god over night. I've been at a professional level with fps games since I can remember. I came from the XI cod5 ffa server, never having lost a single match (excluding ones where I came in like half way through, and even then very rarely did I ever come in second.) That's after playing on the server for months. For the first half of my time there, I didn't even know about tweaking configs and I still never lost.

 

Yes, when I came to cod4 I wasn't immediately owning face, but it was simply a matter of time before I improved dramatically. As I get older, it obviously takes longer to adapt, but I always do, and I'm done explaining myself. If you want to chalk my skill up to some imaginary promod bind bullshit, by all means captain.

It does explode a little bit above the ground by 16 units. Basically 1-2 feet in real world terms. This helps with situations were uneven terrain might affect the blast. As for nothing happening, you mean a direct hit to the head? Are you sure it hit it? Or was it just close? Bullet traces, used for scripted hit detection, ignore players in this case (others like sentryguns do not). Unless there is some strange situation where it actually explodes inside the player body. Which would be weird to say the least. As for how it calculates whether or not a player is hit, it uses the same code as cluster bomb airstrikes. So it does check for things like whether or not the player has a ceiling or other obstacle over his head. In which case damage is reduced 4X. When things work it is best to not reinvent the wheel.

I have literally hit people directly in the head or damn near it, in an open area, with nothing. Just yesterday I hit two players standing next to each other in a field and it only killed 1. I'm not sure what is going on but it's definitely not working properly 100% of the time =(

Pretty sure those console players would get completely owned by us PC players...

Unequivocally this. It's already been proven many times. It's going to backfire even if a controller is required because at that point, it won't be very difficult to mod your way around it and just use a mouse and keyboard. Console gamers will be crying everywhere.

I'm having major issues with the pred missle. At times it explodes before reaching the ground, other times I'll hit someone dead on the head and nothing happens. The biggest problem seems to be its inability to effect lay kill people next to doors or windows what so ever. I've even angled it to get through a door and hit an enemy without so much as a hit marker.

Its weird but I was taught that playing with a player better than you was an opportunity to grab at. Imagine playing with Sydney Crosby at road hockey how about a game with Micheal Jordan or or golfing with Jack. You know your not going to win the game but maybe once you get a moment of beating them. Without better players at anything we would have nothing to look forward to getting better at. Beating Dean in a knife fight was better then winning a map well I thought so anyway. Still have to light Chile's butt on fire in war thunder.

If only everyone in the cod5 community felt this way . I'd never get bitched at or personally attacked/burned at the stake ever again

@@RealEstufa  @@BigPapaDean...Cod5= Revenge spawns!!!!..Nothing to brag about there Dean...

 

 

Maybe I should pay you a visit in Cod5 and make  your ass RAGE quit again.. ...  

Trust me when I say I'm exceptionally fantastic at cod5 and it has nothing to do with revenge spawns =P

several times! He was good nature'd about it tho!

I was more than good nature'd, I honestly thought it was pretty bad ass. Considering out of all the first person shooters I've played, I'm the best at cod 5. It's not easy to kill me let alone get close enough to even have a chance at knifin me!

I have kept my opinion to myself and will continue to do so. It just seems to me we are repeating ourselves from about 6 months ago on a totally different game. Some from the COD4 side thought we were just jealous. I ask you now what is your opinion now?

 

having better hardware and tweaking your config is not cheating.plus we dont play competitive so you can change your config...everyone is just bitter because he is kicking all our asses which doesnt make the game fun for us getting owned so badly  /suck it up

 

everyone has the choice to purchase better hardware and goggle how to change your config and Im sure most of you have

if ya like  copy his config and buy better hardware but you still wont kik his but because hes been gaming since hes been in  his crib-gl

Darn it, this negates the massive first mover advantage that my super efficient TCP/IP stack gives me!!

 

Don't forget the weapon swap binds I gave you!

Because comparing a video game to real life is such a valid argument =P