Finally got the Audio Visualizers to work. Had to do a complete uninstall and reinstall of the programs. Work fine. The "ClassicShell" program which install a "Start" feature in 8 works great. You can choose an XP, Vista or 7 version of the "Start" menu. And its completely customizable (add features or remove them). So now all is good and everything works, even my old programs form the Win98 days. To me if you are still running XP or Vista, its a no-brainer, go ahead and upgrade. Especially with the great upgrade price MS will be offering. Windows 7 users, I would wait. The lack of a "Start" menu is easily fixed and the "Metro" bullshit screen can be bypassed with the "Start" menu fixes that are available. Several companies offer or will offer programs to give you the "Start" menu. But the "regedit" fix of the beta versions is not available in the consumer release. Microsoft deleted the code all together. Of the 3 fixes (programs) I looked at, 2 you pay for, I liked the open source "ClassicShell" best, plus its free and there are different skins available. So for now if you have 7, hold off. If you have XP or Vista, go for it.