Flash Posted August 26, 2014 Member ID: 234 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 101 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1064 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 191 Achievement Points: 6692 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 20, 2016 Birthday: 04/16/1993 Posted August 26, 2014 Ok so I ran across this on the web and figured I would ask the people from Canada in our clan. Are Baby Walkers really banned in CA? They are banned from retail stores being sold at garage sales, flea markets or on street corners. it is also illegal to import, or advertise them for sale And if you have one in your house it is frowned upon and you should burn it so it cant be used again. The reason being is because the babies hurt themselves for example they fall down stairs or the burn themselves on ovens. They also said that it doesn't teach babies how to walk. So anyone here from CA that can help clarify this, it would be greatly appreciated! Awards
little_old_man Posted August 26, 2014 Member ID: 1194 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 436 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 6692 Content Per Day: 1.21 Reputation: 11691 Achievement Points: 53094 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 76 Joined: 02/27/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 16, 2023 Birthday: 04/15/1960 Posted August 26, 2014 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_walker In Canada, the sale of baby walkers was banned on April 7, 2004.Canada is the first country in the world to ban the sale, importation and advertisement of baby walkers. This ban extends to modified and second hand baby walkers, including those sold at a yard sales or flea markets. The Consumers Product Safety Improvement Act of 2008 (CPSIA) changed the items that were allowed to be sold at such sales. Owners of baby walkers may be fined up to $100,000 or sentenced to up to six months in jail. KingStinger! 1 Awards
PimpedOutPete Posted August 26, 2014 Member ID: 174 Group: +++ COD2 Head Admin Followers: 130 Topic Count: 387 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 15027 Content Per Day: 2.62 Reputation: 8043 Achievement Points: 92206 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 59 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 3 hours ago Birthday: 04/23/1970 Device: iPhone Posted August 26, 2014 Steve is correct, they have been banned for quite awhile. Awards
Flash Posted August 26, 2014 Member ID: 234 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 101 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1064 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 191 Achievement Points: 6692 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 20, 2016 Birthday: 04/16/1993 Author Posted August 26, 2014 WOW! that is crazy!! I didn't think it was true. thank you a lot gentlemen! Awards
deerejon Posted August 26, 2014 Member ID: 842 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 62 Topic Count: 278 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 3715 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 3153 Achievement Points: 28472 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/06/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 19 hours ago Birthday: 05/04/1965 Device: Windows Posted August 26, 2014 Wow...my kids lived...go figure...lol... P!nk 1 Awards
Flash Posted August 26, 2014 Member ID: 234 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 101 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1064 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 191 Achievement Points: 6692 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 20, 2016 Birthday: 04/16/1993 Author Posted August 26, 2014 @@deerejon its pretty crazy aint it? even if you have one you can risk being imprisoned because of it. Awards
Unchileno Posted August 26, 2014 Member ID: 101 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 110 Topic Count: 764 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 8139 Content Per Day: 1.42 Reputation: 6768 Achievement Points: 61591 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 13 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 21 Birthday: 01/23/1974 Device: iPhone Posted August 26, 2014 A few kids went head first down stairs, so it was introduced..The law is true,BUT, You still see some version of them, I had one for my kids (close to original) and I seen OLD versions of them around.. PimpedOutPete 1 Awards
Flash Posted August 26, 2014 Member ID: 234 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 101 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1064 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 191 Achievement Points: 6692 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 20, 2016 Birthday: 04/16/1993 Author Posted August 26, 2014 @@Unchileno I personally think if your kid goews head first down some stairs that it is the parents fault for not paying close enough attention. when they are babies youre supposed to be aware of what they are doing right? I just don't understand why is CA the only place to do such a thing? they aren't the only babies with walkers that get hurt lol. P!nk 1 Awards
KingStinger! Posted August 26, 2014 Member ID: 2465 Group: +++ Minecraft Head Admin Followers: 30 Topic Count: 170 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1818 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 1937 Achievement Points: 14560 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 05/06/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 20 Birthday: 04/17/1972 Device: Windows Posted August 26, 2014 (edited) @@Unchileno I personally think if your kid goews head first down some stairs that it is the parents fault for not paying close enough attention. when they are babies youre supposed to be aware of what they are doing right? I disagree. As a father I can attest to the fact that it is impossible to watch your child, pet or anything 100% of every minute of everyday whether they are awake or asleep. It's that moment you look away to flip your eggs, put a bowl in the dishwasher, etc that these mistakes can occur. The issue is the walker, not the parent. This country saw fit to ban it for its dangerous potentials and that I have to agree with (one mans opinion) Edited August 26, 2014 by KingStinger! Unchileno 1 Awards
Flash Posted August 26, 2014 Member ID: 234 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 101 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1064 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 191 Achievement Points: 6692 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 20, 2016 Birthday: 04/16/1993 Author Posted August 26, 2014 (edited) @KingStinger im not saying that you will be able 100% of the time, but shouldn't you be able to at least the majority of the time? Why do you think it was a good idea to ban em? Edited August 26, 2014 by Flash Awards
deerejon Posted August 26, 2014 Member ID: 842 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 62 Topic Count: 278 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 3715 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 3153 Achievement Points: 28472 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/06/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 19 hours ago Birthday: 05/04/1965 Device: Windows Posted August 26, 2014 I guess a kid can't crawl down the stairs? Awards
Flash Posted August 26, 2014 Member ID: 234 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 101 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1064 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 191 Achievement Points: 6692 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 20, 2016 Birthday: 04/16/1993 Author Posted August 26, 2014 im sure they can but with the baby walker they are stuck in it so if the start to go down they cant stop? idk Awards
little_old_man Posted August 26, 2014 Member ID: 1194 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 436 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 6692 Content Per Day: 1.21 Reputation: 11691 Achievement Points: 53094 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 76 Joined: 02/27/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 16, 2023 Birthday: 04/15/1960 Posted August 26, 2014 Stinger is absolutely correct, kids can't be watched 100% of the time and all it takes is a couple seconds for a child to put themselves in a dangerous situation. But kids put themselves in dangerous situations frequently until they become adults and we as parents can only do the best we can and teach them right from wrong. I do feel that banning walkers is overkill. Regardless of whether an infant is in a walker, crawling, or just learning to walk on their own, anyplace an infant can fall down steps should have a child-proof gate. Just like cabinets and toilet seats should have child-proof locks and swimming pools should have fences around them with locking gates. It's just common sense and I don't need the government to tell me how it should be done. Just out of curiosity, if a family lives in a 2 story house and fails to put up a barrier to prevent the child from falling down the stairs, are the parents guilty of child neglect in Canada? Unchileno, Scoarch, deerejon and 1 other 4 Awards
KingStinger! Posted August 26, 2014 Member ID: 2465 Group: +++ Minecraft Head Admin Followers: 30 Topic Count: 170 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1818 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 1937 Achievement Points: 14560 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 05/06/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 20 Birthday: 04/17/1972 Device: Windows Posted August 26, 2014 Just out of curiosity, if a family lives in a 2 story house and fails to put up a barrier to prevent the child from falling down the stairs, are the parents guilty of child neglect in Canada? i wouldn't think so but stranger things have happened in this country with laws.. Awards
KingStinger! Posted August 26, 2014 Member ID: 2465 Group: +++ Minecraft Head Admin Followers: 30 Topic Count: 170 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1818 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 1937 Achievement Points: 14560 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 05/06/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 20 Birthday: 04/17/1972 Device: Windows Posted August 26, 2014 @KingStinger im not saying that you will be able 100% of the time, but shouldn't you be able to at least the majority of the time? Why do you think it was a good idea to ban em?yes majority of the time is parenting. 100% is pure insanity and impossible. A parent should always be attentive to the whereabouts of there children at that age. But in a split second life can change. And Murphy's law says it will happen when you least expect it Awards
Unchileno Posted August 26, 2014 Member ID: 101 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 110 Topic Count: 764 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 8139 Content Per Day: 1.42 Reputation: 6768 Achievement Points: 61591 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 13 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 21 Birthday: 01/23/1974 Device: iPhone Posted August 26, 2014 Wouldn't be surprise..Children's AID is a Fucking Joke here, TRUST me.. Sounds like a " Fail to provide the necessities of life" charge to me..or "child abandonment".. Awards
Flash Posted August 27, 2014 Member ID: 234 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 101 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1064 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 191 Achievement Points: 6692 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 20, 2016 Birthday: 04/16/1993 Author Posted August 27, 2014 I still dont understand why they are banned it just doesnt nake sense. If they are up stairs put a baby gate in front of tge stairs. They make em for a reason. They arent decoration Awards
PimpedOutPete Posted August 27, 2014 Member ID: 174 Group: +++ COD2 Head Admin Followers: 130 Topic Count: 387 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 15027 Content Per Day: 2.62 Reputation: 8043 Achievement Points: 92206 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 59 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 3 hours ago Birthday: 04/23/1970 Device: iPhone Posted August 27, 2014 Stinger is absolutely correct, kids can't be watched 100% of the time and all it takes is a couple seconds for a child to put themselves in a dangerous situation. But kids put themselves in dangerous situations frequently until they become adults and we as parents can only do the best we can and teach them right from wrong. I do feel that banning walkers is overkill. Regardless of whether an infant is in a walker, crawling, or just learning to walk on their own, anyplace an infant can fall down steps should have a child-proof gate. Just like cabinets and toilet seats should have child-proof locks and swimming pools should have fences around them with locking gates. It's just common sense and I don't need the government to tell me how it should be done. Just out of curiosity, if a family lives in a 2 story house and fails to put up a barrier to prevent the child from falling down the stairs, are the parents guilty of child neglect in Canada? Hey Steve, I had to consult my wife on the issue. Her response was "it's not child neglect but a question of lack of supervision". "Child services would end up paying them a visit but only to shake their finger at them".. She said this is no different if the child fell out a two story window".. I hope this helps. Awards
PimpedOutPete Posted August 27, 2014 Member ID: 174 Group: +++ COD2 Head Admin Followers: 130 Topic Count: 387 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 15027 Content Per Day: 2.62 Reputation: 8043 Achievement Points: 92206 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 59 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 3 hours ago Birthday: 04/23/1970 Device: iPhone Posted August 27, 2014 I still dont understand why they are banned it just doesnt nake sense. If they are up stairs put a baby gate in front of tge stairs. They make em for a reason. They arent decoration I think they were an issue years ago. They had very mobile wheels and that with a flight of stairs meant to many fatalities for young children. Deaths that could have been prevented. As a parent Flash, no one in Canada thought anything about them being taken off the market. Unchileno 1 Awards
Yop Posted August 27, 2014 Member ID: 1719 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 18 Topic Count: 71 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1982 Content Per Day: 0.37 Reputation: 518 Achievement Points: 12060 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/21/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 29 Birthday: 04/03/1981 Device: Windows Posted August 27, 2014 Used this kind or stuff is not à good idea. It's not physical for your baby. Let him trying walk when hé want not when you want. Unchileno 1 Awards
deerejon Posted August 27, 2014 Member ID: 842 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 62 Topic Count: 278 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 3715 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 3153 Achievement Points: 28472 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/06/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 19 hours ago Birthday: 05/04/1965 Device: Windows Posted August 27, 2014 Rumor is they want to put all children in hamster bubbles because parents really shouldn't have any responsibility. Awards
Flash Posted August 27, 2014 Member ID: 234 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 101 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1064 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 191 Achievement Points: 6692 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 20, 2016 Birthday: 04/16/1993 Author Posted August 27, 2014 @@PimpedOutPete but they banned em only 10 years ago. For a law, that is not that long ago. I would understand it if there was an issue with em when the first came out. but not now. we have better technology to keep kids safer. BUt still why wouldn't you put a gate up in front of the stairs if that is were your child is? Awards
PimpedOutPete Posted August 27, 2014 Member ID: 174 Group: +++ COD2 Head Admin Followers: 130 Topic Count: 387 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 15027 Content Per Day: 2.62 Reputation: 8043 Achievement Points: 92206 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 59 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 3 hours ago Birthday: 04/23/1970 Device: iPhone Posted August 27, 2014 I totally agree Flash, it seems odd that it took them so long to ban the product when it deemed to be one of the most dangerous baby product on the market as far back as 1994. My girls used them when we lived in the states and by the time we relocated, they grew out of them and my wife and I didn't give the ban a thought. Awards
little_old_man Posted August 27, 2014 Member ID: 1194 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 436 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 6692 Content Per Day: 1.21 Reputation: 11691 Achievement Points: 53094 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 76 Joined: 02/27/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 16, 2023 Birthday: 04/15/1960 Posted August 27, 2014 I can see the safety issues for kids, but I think they should reintroduce them for adults that get too drunk to stand up. They could save hundreds of lives each year in Canada preventing drunks from falling down and hitting their heads. Awards
Flash Posted August 27, 2014 Member ID: 234 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 101 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1064 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 191 Achievement Points: 6692 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 20, 2016 Birthday: 04/16/1993 Author Posted August 27, 2014 according to Wikipedia ( which cant really be trusted) they were invented as far back as 1440s. with that being said I still don't understand why they hadn't banned them back in like the 60s. it took CA all the way until 2004 for to ban em? kinda odd. the technology in '04 was a lot better than the 60s and 70s. even today I would think that they are made to be a lot safer then that of the ones made in '04. Awards
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