hxtr Posted July 11, 2013 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.14 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Share Posted July 11, 2013 Buying a server for a client. I have chosen the T420... imagine that. They tried to push me the T320 and I said NOPE the 420. hahahha even though I quite. I have it set with 8gb of ram. 5 Solid Sate Drives, 2 in a mirror for os giving me 500gb and 3 in a RAID 5 giving me 1T of solid disk pace.. Get it solid? It will have the what I called them in the compaq days RIM.. remote insight boards that would allow me to shut the server off from remote to do patches or whatever. Like power it down then back on. Pretty cool technoloty. You can even install the server from remote. Cant wait to play with that. I went ahead and priced out a Sonicwall not my favorite but Wifi VPN 10 up-gradable user router so I have support 24/7 from Dell but know I can figure it out but you never know. Prefer a Juniper but would have to pay more is I needed support. Screw Cisco... they are overrated. Then well I am being a hypocrite now.. getting a Cisco Managed switch but would rather get a HP Procure instead but they are pricey. 2008 Server 5 cals then another 10 2012 licences that I have to downgrade to 2008.. WTF? Not going to no 2012. Would rather just have 2003. It is a solid server OS. Then 8 upgrades to windows 8 pro so they can attach to the domain. Sure hope SP1 comes out soon. Norton 360.. hate it but it is a server and needs a server class anitivirus. No way in hell will I choose McAfee.. i would go to a MAC before I did that. Total bill around $8000+- Any suggestions. I have not purchased a server class machine in a long time... back in the Compaq DL380 Gen 3 days or Dell 2550 and 35?? cant remember when the Prec RAID controllers sucked ass. Lost a couple servers OS because of them. Bastards!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hxtr Posted July 12, 2013 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.14 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Author Share Posted July 12, 2013 Well I am thinking of making some changes. I am thinking the solid state drives are over rated when I can outfit this server with TERABYTES rather 2.5T in my original config. Talking to Paperman.. who cares less just made me think. Tried to get him to visit me but he is afraid I will touch him inappropriately. Who ME? I have have 16 2.5 sata the small drives still 10,000 rpm drives rather the 8 500gb solid state drives. I think I will be needing way more space and I can do 2 drives as stand bye and hot swapable so who cares if one fails. Plus with my backup system who cares if I lose the server. Plus I want to drop one of the processors.. thinking of now going with the T320 but was not wanting to limit the upgradability.. but if they need more power.. I put this sever in the remote office and put a better in its place. No Exchange... FUCK exchange. No taxing software yet so not worried about that. Just file and print. Even a Mac could do the job. hahahaha FU pinglo. So.. rethinking so bring the initial cost down and bring it to what it needs today and make the disk-pace expandable to what it will need I think because of the videos and other rather get a beast when all I need is a good horse. So it helps even though no one has any input and I wont no word from Pinglow.. but it helps me rethink what I was thinking as I learn by talking even to myself. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecHnOBoY Posted July 12, 2013 Member ID: 755 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 21 Topic Count: 120 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2191 Content Per Day: 0.41 Reputation: 961 Achievement Points: 14309 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/17/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 18, 2019 Birthday: 01/14/1982 Share Posted July 12, 2013 (edited) Actually I'am on the way to become a Dell Certified Engineer. Just to have the ability to order spare parts without contacting the support or solve our issues with Dell servers on my own He'll the basic course for the Power Edge series takes 4 hours. And two for the test *argh* I will re-read your post when I am at home. Too much text for an iPhone lol. Edited July 12, 2013 by TecHnOBoY BigPapaDean and hxtr 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
hxtr Posted July 12, 2013 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.14 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Author Share Posted July 12, 2013 Here is my newest quote. I made the change to the 2.5" drives since I can have 16 of them. So going with 1t drives should not be a problem as I can have another 9T in 1T drives. That is great on the cert. I almost did that back in the day but I was doing it already anyway. hahaha I never let them touch our hardware and we could order the parts direct but that was a bit ago.. last time was in 2006 then again in 2008 to 9. What I love about dell is the asset tag. Gets you everything you need. And they make great hardware. The best thing is they are buying their company back so no more damn stock holders to please. The deal is in the works. One of the companies wanting to partner with Mike dropped out so the other one is taking the deal. They are very excited about and and rightfully show. FUCK the stock market. It kills companies and can make companies into company killers. Way to go Dell. Quote Number: 65************ Item Number Quantity Item Description 225-3264 1 PowerEdge T420 951-2015 1 Dell ProSupport Plus. For tech support, visit www.dell.com/prosupport/regionalcontacts 951-6259 1 ProSupport Plus: Next Business Day Onsite Service After Problem Diagnosis, 2 Year Extended 951-6266 1 ProSupport Plus: Next Business Day Onsite Service After Problem Diagnosis, Initial Year 951-6273 1 ProSupport Plus: 7x24 HW/SW Tech Support and Assistance, 3 Year 996-5317 1 Dell Hardware Limited Warranty Plus On Site Service Initial Year 996-5407 1 Dell Hardware Limited Warranty Plus On Site Service Extended Year 900-9997 1 On-Site Installation Declined 926-2979 1 Proactive Maintenance Service Declined 332-0514 1 Thank you, No AppAssure Trial at this time 331-7656 1 PowerEdge T420 Shipping 430-4715 1 On-Board Broadcom 5720 Dual Port 1GBE 331-3482 1 Basic Management 331-7930 1 LCD display for T420 342-4610 1 Chassis with up to 16, 2.5 inch Hard Drives 318-1544 1 Security Bezel 330-5116 1 Power Saving Dell Active Power Controller 342-4668 1 RAID 1/RAID 5 for H710p/H710/H310 (2 + 3-14 HDDs) 342-4048 1 PERC H710 Adapter RAID Controller, 512MB NV Cache, Full Height 319-0193 1 Heat Sink, Dell PowerEdge T320/T420 319-0335 1 Intel Xeon E5-2430 2.20GHz, 15M Cache, 7.2GT/s QPI, Turbo, 6C, 95W 331-4611 1 No Additional Processor 317-9644 2 8GB RDIMM, 1333 MT/s, Low Volt, Dual Rank, x4 Data Width 331-4422 1 1333 MHz RDIMMs 331-4428 1 Performance Optimized 342-1998 7 1TB 7.2K RPM SATA 3Gbps 2.5in Hot-plug Hard Drive 331-7978 1 Electronic System Documentation and OpenManage DVD Kit, Dell PowerEdge T420 313-6765 1 DVD-ROM, SATA, Internal 330-4120 1 No Rails 331-4603 1 Dual, Hot-plug, Redundant Power Supply (1+1), 495W 331-7658 1 Power Distribution Board for Hot Plug Power Supplies 310-8509 2 Power Cord, NEMA 5-15P to C13, 15 amp, wall plug, 10 feet / 3 meter 421-5433 1 Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1, Standard Edition, Includes 5 CALS 421-5440 1 Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1, Standard Edition, Media Kit 421-9219 2 5-pack of Windows Server 2012 User CALs (Standard or Datacenter) Subtotal: $6,036.42 Shipping & Handling: $0.00 Tax: $498.00 Environmental Disposal Fee: $0.00 Total Price w/Discounts: $6,534.42 Quote Number: 657602710 Item Number Quantity Item Description A5860111 1 SonicWall TZ 215 Wireless-N Network Security Appliance with 1-Year Total Secure $958.30 * -DISCOUNT/COUPON APPL Subtotal: $958.30 Shipping & Handling: $0.00 Tax: $79.06 Environmental Disposal Fee: $0.00 Total Price w/Discounts: $1,037.36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogleg Posted July 12, 2013 Member ID: 907 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 96 Topic Count: 126 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2731 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 3928 Achievement Points: 26177 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 13 Joined: 12/20/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 19 Birthday: 02/10/1969 Device: Windows Share Posted July 12, 2013 I haven't grurued in a long time. Sorry I can't help you. If you need some Solaris stuff let me know. I am totally grurued on that. hxtr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
hxtr Posted July 12, 2013 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.14 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Author Share Posted July 12, 2013 I haven't grurued in a long time. Sorry I can't help you. If you need some Solaris stuff let me know. I am totally grurued on that. Have not heard that word in a long time... Solaris. I never been a DBA kind of guy. Could of but was not my nitch. Supproted MS SQL a few times but did the support not the actual database. I setup the sever and crap... but that is all I wanted to do. You get to much drawn into one thing. I loved system/networks. Always wanted to get into Linux as it is the future and knew that back in 1996. My first job with Paranet was Chevron.. the ExonUtec. Met a guy that loved Linux. In its infant stages. But you had to be a programmer. I always thought if funny.... programmers had very little knowledge about system and I thought that was hand in hand. How can you program and not know about the 1ss and 0rossss. No clue on hardware.. my love. But a language kind of thing. Kind of like Hickonics. Remember Cobol? They were dinosaurs in the early 90's until Y2K. Then they were needed to convert the 97 98 to 1997 1998 in prep for 2000. Boy do I have stories. Then they died again. C C+ C++ will all be replaced. Just the way computer evolution works. Java is shit.. pure shit. Was intended to make every program work on any system. SUN had it right but MS fucked that up got sued then complied them shit as Oracle bought them out. What a crap company. Now when you Install java it wants to install ASK. FU you sacked of pure shit. Sorry... just reminiscing and a bit of vent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hxtr Posted July 12, 2013 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.14 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Author Share Posted July 12, 2013 Or is Solaris Unix? I remember SCO.. and other. Primus Mainfraim and other. Just cant remember. Been way to long and way too much weed. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogleg Posted July 12, 2013 Member ID: 907 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 96 Topic Count: 126 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2731 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 3928 Achievement Points: 26177 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 13 Joined: 12/20/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 19 Birthday: 02/10/1969 Device: Windows Share Posted July 12, 2013 Solaris is a flavor of Unix. hxtr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Bogleg Posted July 12, 2013 Member ID: 907 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 96 Topic Count: 126 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2731 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 3928 Achievement Points: 26177 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 13 Joined: 12/20/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 19 Birthday: 02/10/1969 Device: Windows Share Posted July 12, 2013 That being said Oracle still makes some pretty good Solaris-based hardware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
hxtr Posted July 12, 2013 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.14 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Author Share Posted July 12, 2013 I just dont like the owner... they do make good shit but ASK in java. WTF. ASK??????? Spyware..... search engine steelier. Pisses me off... but I know the game. Money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecHnOBoY Posted July 13, 2013 Member ID: 755 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 21 Topic Count: 120 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2191 Content Per Day: 0.41 Reputation: 961 Achievement Points: 14309 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/17/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 18, 2019 Birthday: 01/14/1982 Share Posted July 13, 2013 @@hxtr Sorry i am a bit late. Nice machine! What are the servers for? Maybe you can save a bit more money. We used Hewlett Packard for years but a few years ago the started go give a shit on smaller companies. Bad service, too expensive etc. We have some problems with the IPMI 3 implementation on the PowerEdge R series. We can't monitor the servers the way we want to. So we can not monitor the hardware like HDD health and so on with Nagios. This sucks as we have customers which expect that. iDRAC 7 itself is great! I don't buy a new server without it! Though I need 2 minutes to get access to the hardware... I am toooo lazy. But I would prefer a Juniper FW instead of Sonicwall. hxtr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Tball Posted July 13, 2013 Member ID: 112 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 2 Topic Count: 104 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1132 Content Per Day: 0.21 Reputation: 228 Achievement Points: 6975 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 3, 2015 Birthday: 10/09/1960 Share Posted July 13, 2013 The T series are huge machines but can take allot of drives and allot of ram. I have a T710 and going to replace it with a T620 the 710 got struck by lightning on july 3rd. I would not use solid state drives. I would make that into a Virtual Machine box which offers growth and an easy Bare Bones recovery. Sonicwalls are great cheap easy to configure i have about 60 of them in the field. Astronomer and hxtr 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tball Posted July 13, 2013 Member ID: 112 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 2 Topic Count: 104 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1132 Content Per Day: 0.21 Reputation: 228 Achievement Points: 6975 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 3, 2015 Birthday: 10/09/1960 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Oh and i forgot you can buy scratch and dent stuff from dell also the site is dell.com/outlet hxtr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hxtr Posted July 13, 2013 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.14 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Author Share Posted July 13, 2013 @@hxtr Sorry i am a bit late. Nice machine! What are the servers for? Maybe you can save a bit more money. We used Hewlett Packard for years but a few years ago the started go give a shit on smaller companies. Bad service, too expensive etc. We have some problems with the IPMI 3 implementation on the PowerEdge R series. We can't monitor the servers the way we want to. So we can not monitor the hardware like HDD health and so on with Nagios. This sucks as we have customers which expect that. iDRAC 7 itself is great! I don't buy a new server without it! Though I need 2 minutes to get access to the hardware... I am toooo lazy. But I would prefer a Juniper FW instead of Sonicwall. Logan my rep asked me bout iDARC... I think I will add that to the list. I declined out as I was not sure I would get much use out of it but I will call Monday morning before the meeting to get that added. Thanks for that advice. I used to be a Compaq then HP fan. Never liked the original HP's before Compaq. Liked the IBM's as welll... solid hardware but have no idea now day. Compaq by fare had the best RAID controllers but like you said.... their supports sucks. Dell I have to say even if not the best love the fact they are buying their company back and I get and have always gotten great support from them. I agree on the Juniper but I really want to make sure if I have a problem I got someone in India I can call for help. hahhaha The T series are huge machines but can take allot of drives and allot of ram. I have a T710 and going to replace it with a T620 the 710 got struck by lightning on july 3rd. I would not use solid state drives. I would make that into a Virtual Machine box which offers growth and an easy Bare Bones recovery. Sonicwalls are great cheap easy to configure i have about 60 of them in the field. They are huge and love you can get a rackmout kit for it in the future. I so agree with the virtual servers. This one and to answer Tech above is only for now doing file and print plus one application. I want the server to be able to expand as she is growing and I see a medium size company out of the 10 employees she has not in the future. I will never recommend Exchange because you can do the same thing with yahoo or even hotmail.. hotmail even has OWA for front end. WOW did not know that till just resent. Had the need to use pop with outlook.. and they let you do it for free. Bad ass... Sonicwalls were not the best back in the 2005-2006 days but sure they have gotten better. Juniper is my favorite but I want the support just in case. Don't have to have problems when they have remote users. And any issue I can go back to get Dell to fix. To add not sure if I said above... doing carbonite for remote backups. They are HIPAA complaint which is a good standard for a financial company such as this one. Got to keep the data protected. If they burn down.. they have all their docs and other. They have it setup nor for a guest WiFi... I am leaving that on the Timewarraner wifi router/modem then putting the sonicwall behind that were it is private only. Two of them are telecommuting so they well use the VPN to access data and they will have carbonite as well to protect them. Then the owner and Judy will want to access the network so they will RDP back to their computers from home so they don't need to keep any data local to their home computers. Was going to do crap ass bloatware Norton but decided to do BitDefender instead. Great deal for 3 years.. just over $1000 for server and all workstations. Can't beat that. Carbonite is 599 for 1 year at 500GB storage.. so will purchase that one year at a time for now. Their bill thus far is just over $10,000 including the Windows 8 pro OEM's 1500 APC ups and a Cisco 24 port Managed Switch. Once big chunk of change but they need it very very bad. Then the cost is low.. just me and updated subscriptions. And I am doing this very very cheep... because it will be easy as shit to maintain once all setup and I want a cookie cutter payment from the start to the end. Cant wait to get started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hxtr Posted July 13, 2013 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.14 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Author Share Posted July 13, 2013 Oh and i forgot you can buy scratch and dent stuff from dell also the site is dell.com/outlet Just checked... they have a few to choose from but by the time I outfit it... it will be about the same cost. Maybe 500 or more less. But will keep that in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hxtr Posted July 13, 2013 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.14 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Author Share Posted July 13, 2013 One question... what is the main difference between the T320 and T420. Is the cost savings much between the two? I know it limits to on proc which if I ever did any visualization that would limit me big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecHnOBoY Posted July 13, 2013 Member ID: 755 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 21 Topic Count: 120 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2191 Content Per Day: 0.41 Reputation: 961 Achievement Points: 14309 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/17/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 18, 2019 Birthday: 01/14/1982 Share Posted July 13, 2013 (edited) One question... what is the main difference between the T320 and T420. Is the cost savings much between the two? I know it limits to on proc which if I ever did any visualization that would limit me big time. It's not only the proc. The T320 is limited to 96GB RAM (low volt, dual rank x8) against 192GB (low volt, dual rank x4) in the T420. I suspect you meant virtualization? About the iDRAC: There are different licenses. Think about what you need becaus an upgrade to Enterprise is more expensive than buying it together with your new server. There is limited remote console access. With the express version you will get disconnected after the OS is fully up and running. Just one example. Dont know if i hit all yor selections correctly it was a quick shot. The ammounts are missing in this overview. Why ever: . $5756,47 here HARDWAREOPTIONEN Basis PowerEdge T420, TPM ändern Gehäusekonfiguration 2.5" Chassis with up to 16 Hot Plug Hard Drives ändern Prozessor Intel® Xeon® E5-2407 2.20GHz, 10M Cache, 6.4GT/s QPI, No Turbo, 4C, 80W, Max Mem 1066MHz ändern Zusätzlicher Prozessor Intel® Xeon® E5-2407 2.20GHz, 10M Cache, 6.4GT/s QPI, No Turbo, 4C, 80W ändern Arbeitsspeicherkonfigurations-Typ Performance Optimized ändern DIMM-Typ und DIMM-Geschwindigkeit 1333 MHz RDIMMs ändern Arbeitsspeicherkapazität 8GB RDIMM, 1333 MHz, Low Volt, Dual Rank, x4 ändern Vorinstalliertes Betriebssystem Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1, Standard Edition, English, Incl. 5 CALs, No Media ändern Kits mit Betriebssystemmedien DVD Media for Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1, Standard Edition, English ändern Virtualisierung - Aktiviert Nicht inklusive ändern Virtualisierungslizenzen und -abonnements Nicht inklusive ändern Internes SD-Modul Nicht inklusive ändern Sekundäre OS Nicht inklusive ändern Virtualisierungssoftware Nicht inklusive ändern Betriebssystempartitionen Nicht inklusive ändern RAID-Konfiguration C22 - RAID 1/Unconfigured H310/H710/H710p, 2 + 1-14 SAS/SATA/SSD HDDs ändern RAID-Controller PERC H710 Adapter RAID Controller, 512MB NV Cache ändern Festplatten 146GB, SAS 6Gbps, 2.5-in, 15K RPM Hard Drive (Hot Plug) ändern Festplatten (Gruppe 2) 1TB, Near-Line SAS 6Gbps, 2.5-in, 7.2K RPM Hard Drive (Hot Plug) ändern Festplatten (Gruppe 3) Nicht inklusive ändern BIOS-Einstellungen für die Energieverwaltung Performance BIOS Setting ändern Erweiterte Systemkonfigurationen Nicht inklusive ändern Netzteil Dual, Hot-plug, Redundant Power Supply (1+1), 750W ändern Netzkabel European Power Cord 220V ändern ZUSÄTZLICHE HARDWAREOPTIONEN Integrierte Systemverwaltung iDRAC7 Express ändern Add-In-Netzwerkadapter On-Board Broadcom 5720 Dual Port 1GBE ändern Hostbusadapter/Converged Network-Adapter Nicht inklusive ändern Zusätzliche PCIe Karten Nicht inklusive ändern Blende Bezel ändern Rackschienen Tower Chassis, No Casters ändern Internes optisches Laufwerk DVD+/-RW, SATA, Internal ändern Serverzubehör Nicht inklusive ändern Rack-Monitor, Tastatur und Maus Nicht inklusive ändern Maus Nicht inklusive ändern Monitor Nicht inklusive ändern Unterbrechungsfreie Netzteile Nicht inklusive ändern Zusätzliche Versandetiketten Versandetikett mit Bestellkonfiguration (Auftragsnummer, Versanddatum, Modell, Prozessorgeschwindigkeit, Festplattenlaufwerksgröße, RAM) ändern BETRIEBSSYSTEM UND ZUSÄTZLICHE LIZENZOPTIONEN Microsoft SQL Server Nicht inklusive ändern Clientzugriffslizenzen Nicht inklusive ändern Lizenzen Nicht inklusive ändern SICHERUNGSLÖSUNGEN UND SOFTWAREOPTIONEN Systemverwaltungsupgrades Nicht inklusive ändern Wechseldatenträger Nicht inklusive ändern Speichermedien Nicht inklusive ändern Zusätzliche Software Nicht inklusive ändern System Dokumentation Electronic System Documentation and OpenManage DVD Kit for T420 ändern Optionale Dokumentation Nicht inklusive ändern ERWEITERTE SERVICES UND INSTALLATIONSOPTIONEN Support-Services 3Yr ProSupport and Next Business Day On-Site Service ändern Dell Service: Installation No Installation Service Selected (Contact Sales rep for more details) ändern Remote Advisory Service INFO Declined Remote Consulting ändern Datensicherung - Keep Your Hard Drive Nicht inklusive ändern Serviceupgrades – abweichend vom Standard/POS vor Ort Nicht inklusive ändern Proactive Maintenance Services (Proaktive Wartung) Declined Proactive Maintenance (info) ändern Edited July 13, 2013 by TecHnOBoY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
wildthing Posted July 13, 2013 Member ID: 36 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 124 Topic Count: 235 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3845 Content Per Day: 0.71 Reputation: 2247 Achievement Points: 34608 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 17 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 2 Birthday: 11/22/1968 Device: Windows Share Posted July 13, 2013 I would look at this site hxtr www.ibuypower.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
hxtr Posted July 13, 2013 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.14 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Author Share Posted July 13, 2013 I would look at this site hxtr www.ibuypower.com cant do it wildthing...... this is not a cost things as much the right product. Got to have the support when or if a problem happens. Have to stay with the big boys. But if trying to save money... sure things. Trying to make sure as I seen to many crap situations that you want someone accountable when shit hits the fan. I know the service I get with dell. No matter what I can get them to do what I know they are suppose to even with the OS... the Sonicwall and other. That is what they will be paying for. Now way in hell am I going third party. But great if for myself.... not for any customer of mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hxtr Posted July 13, 2013 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.14 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Author Share Posted July 13, 2013 Tech... t's not only the proc. The T320 is limited to 96GB RAM (low volt, dual rank x8) against 192GB (low volt, dual rank x4) in the T420.I suspect you meant virtualization?About the iDRAC:There are different licenses. Think about what you need becaus an upgrade to Enterprise is more expensive than buying it together with your new server.There is limited remote console access. With the express version you will get disconnected after the OS is fully up and running. Just one example. Agree on the T320.. vers T420. The limitations as this company is growing fast. I will have to post the videos I made for them. Part of the deal I made with them. Fun making videos and great advice she is making EVEN IF all a scam up to the FEDS.... 4 now. I think I will add the IDARK. Logan asked me about that. I am only 20 miles away but the monitoring is a very great option. Will price and present with and without so let them decide. As for the rest of you post. hahahhahaha I seen lots of No.. but confused as to what you are saying. hahahhaaaaaaaa TecHnOBoY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astronomer Posted July 13, 2013 Member ID: 2069 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 24 Topic Count: 214 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 2411 Content Per Day: 0.49 Reputation: 2409 Achievement Points: 18298 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 12/25/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2023 Birthday: 08/08/1966 Device: Windows Share Posted July 13, 2013 The T series are huge machines but can take allot of drives and allot of ram. I have a T710 and going to replace it with a T620 the 710 got struck by lightning on july 3rd. I would not use solid state drives. I would make that into a Virtual Machine box which offers growth and an easy Bare Bones recovery. Sonicwalls are great cheap easy to configure i have about 60 of them in the field. I was going to add this as well. Virtualize it! The benefits are huge: If another server is needed, just make sure you have enough RAM and spin up another virtual server. Use a proper backup and make regular images of the virtual machines. If the physical box dies, no problem: Get another box - and it can be completely dissimilar hardware from the original - install your VM layer, spin up some VM's, move your images over, and you're back in business damned fast vs a bare-iron install. My company does not install servers for our clients that aren't virtualized. Heck, I have a HP ML350 w/ 12Gb RAM in my basement running 3 Virtual production servers + 2 test environments and a couple of specialized Linux appliances (check out http://www.turnkeylinux.org/ for over 100 ready-to-go free server appliance images) that I'm tweaking. hxtr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Tball Posted July 14, 2013 Member ID: 112 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 2 Topic Count: 104 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1132 Content Per Day: 0.21 Reputation: 228 Achievement Points: 6975 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 3, 2015 Birthday: 10/09/1960 Share Posted July 14, 2013 @@hxtr Sorry i am a bit late. Nice machine! What are the servers for? Maybe you can save a bit more money. We used Hewlett Packard for years but a few years ago the started go give a shit on smaller companies. Bad service, too expensive etc. We have some problems with the IPMI 3 implementation on the PowerEdge R series. We can't monitor the servers the way we want to. So we can not monitor the hardware like HDD health and so on with Nagios. This sucks as we have customers which expect that. iDRAC 7 itself is great! I don't buy a new server without it! Though I need 2 minutes to get access to the hardware... I am toooo lazy. But I would prefer a Juniper FW instead of Sonicwall. Logan my rep asked me bout iDARC... I think I will add that to the list. I declined out as I was not sure I would get much use out of it but I will call Monday morning before the meeting to get that added. Thanks for that advice. I used to be a Compaq then HP fan. Never liked the original HP's before Compaq. Liked the IBM's as welll... solid hardware but have no idea now day. Compaq by fare had the best RAID controllers but like you said.... their supports sucks. Dell I have to say even if not the best love the fact they are buying their company back and I get and have always gotten great support from them. I agree on the Juniper but I really want to make sure if I have a problem I got someone in India I can call for help. hahhaha >The T series are huge machines but can take allot of drives and allot of ram. I have a T710 and going to replace it with a T620 the 710 got struck by lightning on july 3rd. I would not use solid state drives. I would make that into a Virtual Machine box which offers growth and an easy Bare Bones recovery. Sonicwalls are great cheap easy to configure i have about 60 of them in the field. They are huge and love you can get a rackmout kit for it in the future. I so agree with the virtual servers. This one and to answer Tech above is only for now doing file and print plus one application. I want the server to be able to expand as she is growing and I see a medium size company out of the 10 employees she has not in the future. I will never recommend Exchange because you can do the same thing with yahoo or even hotmail.. hotmail even has OWA for front end. WOW did not know that till just resent. Had the need to use pop with outlook.. and they let you do it for free. Bad ass... Sonicwalls were not the best back in the 2005-2006 days but sure they have gotten better. Juniper is my favorite but I want the support just in case. Don't have to have problems when they have remote users. And any issue I can go back to get Dell to fix. To add not sure if I said above... doing carbonite for remote backups. They are HIPAA complaint which is a good standard for a financial company such as this one. Got to keep the data protected. If they burn down.. they have all their docs and other. They have it setup nor for a guest WiFi... I am leaving that on the Timewarraner wifi router/modem then putting the sonicwall behind that were it is private only. Two of them are telecommuting so they well use the VPN to access data and they will have carbonite as well to protect them. Then the owner and Judy will want to access the network so they will RDP back to their computers from home so they don't need to keep any data local to their home computers. Was going to do crap ass bloatware Norton but decided to do BitDefender instead. Great deal for 3 years.. just over $1000 for server and all workstations. Can't beat that. Carbonite is 599 for 1 year at 500GB storage.. so will purchase that one year at a time for now. Their bill thus far is just over $10,000 including the Windows 8 pro OEM's 1500 APC ups and a Cisco 24 port Managed Switch. Once big chunk of change but they need it very very bad. Then the cost is low.. just me and updated subscriptions. And I am doing this very very cheep... because it will be easy as shit to maintain once all setup and I want a cookie cutter payment from the start to the end. Cant wait to get started. Yahoo and hotmail are so Ghetto when i see those address's the first thing that comes to mind is are that are you that cheap?? I love exchange if they dont want to spend the money on exchange then do hosted office 360 then at least they have there own domain. As far as backup i do a combo of cloud and on premise. I like asigra Google it. It does a great job with compression. As far as remote access if they will have a workstation at the office try logmein easier than running a terminal server Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hxtr Posted July 15, 2013 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.14 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Author Share Posted July 15, 2013 Got it approved today.... project is a go. Added the iDARC as suggested.... Sonicwall.... just spent $7800 dollars. Cant wait to play with this server. Im the cheapest part of the deal but a consistent amount for the entire time of our relationship. Still have to spend another $2000+ for OEM's Windows 8. Sure wish SP1 would hurry and come out.Then another $1200 for 3 years of BidDefender then another $599 for Carbonite 1 year. I love spending other peoples money. hahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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