alright, heres the deal. In case you folks forgot, the tube( at its current setting) came as a standard perk from the original game you bought at the store. If you were to play on another clan server, chances are they dont have the technical end like xi to modify damage, or get rid of it...some do, i know, but most dont. Thirdly, if you think, other than ping or lawless, that the tubers are outscoring the diehard run and gun folks, stay around long enough to check the scores at the end of the round. Most times the r &g guys are still dominating to the point you might wanna spec them, just in case. I like using a toob, i like spamming if i killed someone with it..and yes, for those who know me i have little skill, sometimes i do better than other times, but i suck pretty bad.. I'm there for the fun of talking smack to people i am familiar with, not to try and WIN,PLACE OR SHOW on every map. Believe me when i tell you my penis is large enough (and that aint saying much, and i know its a joke Zoe...from you its always funny) that i am not even the least bit concerned about my score, who toobed me over and over, who keeps snipin me, who keeps spammin the wall on my position with an rpd or other countless complaints. It's a video game. If i was good enough to become competitive, its promod all the way for money. As it is my favorite method of killing if i can is the stun/frag combo...DA STUNNA!....if i can pull it off. Probably the reason i always am at the bottom. Toobs are hareder to use effectively than some folks are giving credit for. Its funny, my skill is so bad i still cant do well when i'm tubing...maybe you need to up the damage a touch chief????