JohnnyDos Posted February 11, 2014 Member ID: 77 Group: Fallen Members Followers: 111 Topic Count: 1018 Topics Per Day: 0.18 Content Count: 7527 Content Per Day: 1.32 Reputation: 9175 Achievement Points: 69486 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 47 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 8, 2020 Posted February 11, 2014 This kid got an A+ for this paper BY A 15 yr. OLD SCHOOL KID who got an A+ for this entry (TOTALLY AWESOME)! The Lord's Prayer Is not allowed in most Public schools anymore Because the word 'God' is mentioned..... A kid in WINNIPEG wrote the attached NEW School prayer: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Now I sit me down in school Where praying is against the rule For this great nation under God Finds mention of Him very odd. If scripture now the class recites, It violates the Bill of Rights. And anytime my head I bow Becomes a Federal matter now. Our hair can be purple, orange or green, That's no offence; it's a freedom scene.. The law is specific, the law is precise. Prayers spoken aloud are a serious vice. For praying in a public hall Might offend someone with no faith at all.. In silence alone we must meditate, God's name is prohibited by the Provence . We're allowed to cuss and dress like freaks, And pierce our noses, tongues and cheeks... They've outlawed guns, but FIRST the Bible. To quote the Good Book makes me liable. We can elect a pregnant Senior Queen, And the 'unwed daddy,' our Senior King. It's 'inappropriate' to teach right from wrong, We're taught that such 'judgments' do not belong.. We can get our condoms and birth controls, Study witchcraft, vampires and totem poles ... But the Ten Commandments are not allowed, No word of God must reach this crowd. It's scary here I must confess, When chaos reigns the school's a mess. So, Lord, this silent plea I make: Should I be shot; My soul please take! Amen Sonovabich, hxtr and JohnnyQuest 3
little_old_man Posted February 11, 2014 Member ID: 1194 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 436 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 6692 Content Per Day: 1.21 Reputation: 11691 Achievement Points: 53094 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 76 Joined: 02/27/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 16, 2023 Birthday: 04/15/1960 Posted February 11, 2014 Different versions of that have been around since around 1985 according to snopes.com http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/newprayer.asp But regardless of its origins the point comes across loud and clear and it rings true. JohnnyQuest 1 Awards
Sammy Posted February 11, 2014 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 32 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 1.92 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 17 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Posted February 11, 2014 Pretty sarcastic. But schools are a microcosm of society. So do we blame them for being normal? OSIRIS 1 Awards
OSIRIS Posted February 11, 2014 Member ID: 1116 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 10 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 57 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 27 Achievement Points: 620 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/10/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 28 Birthday: 12/29/1967 Device: Linux Posted February 11, 2014 (edited) We dont use rasist words here because 1st off it's not right to and 2nd it's offensive to most. I guess the word "god" can be just AS offenseive to some people. So their rights should be respected. The word "god" does not have the same meaning to everyone AND assuming that it does will put you in a different state of understanding. The root-meaning of the word "god" (from Gothic root gheu; Sanskrit hub or emu, "to invoke or to sacrifice to") is either "the one invoked" or "the one sacrificed to." From different Indo-Germanic roots (div, "to shine", "give light" or "to implore"). Predating that. It is believed the the word "god" is a misunderstanding that lead to a mistranslation of the Khemitic word "NTR"(Nature). With the word "god" having so many meanings, today and in history, to so many people I can understand why some people may not want it said in schools to their impressionable children. Today we are a little too argumentative about the words we and others say. Words have power but only the power you give them. Edited February 11, 2014 by OSIRIS Astronomer and LandShark 2 Awards
Astronomer Posted February 11, 2014 Member ID: 2069 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 24 Topic Count: 214 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 2411 Content Per Day: 0.46 Reputation: 2409 Achievement Points: 18298 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 12/25/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2023 Birthday: 08/08/1966 Posted February 11, 2014 That little prayer also assumes that morality (societal and personal) is derived from worship of the Abrahamic god and the associated religions. I put it out there that this is a false assumption. Morality is partly derived from nature, nurture, and our evolution from nomadic hunter-gatherers to an agrarian society where people began congregating and living in villages and towns. Take a close read of the old Testament, Koran etc. While written tongue-in-cheek, Prof. Dawkin's description of the god of the Old Testament aptly describes it depending on which passage you are reading: “The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.” OSIRIS 1 Awards
JohnnyQuest Posted February 12, 2014 Member ID: 1965 Group: Fallen Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 43 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1176 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 1082 Achievement Points: 8599 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/12/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 15, 2016 Birthday: 02/11/1969 Posted February 12, 2014 if we all used the supreme being statement instead of the word God..then i wonder how long it would take for the complainers to find a disection of that as well...damn lobbyists suck the bone..boo hoo!,,,whiners and nothing to doers,eventually we will be told what to eat and think as well...pathetic,,,what happened to individual thinking and freedom of speech?,,,it's gone south. Sonovabich, Blackbart and LandShark 3
LandShark Posted February 12, 2014 Member ID: 698 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 26 Topic Count: 43 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1145 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 782 Achievement Points: 7232 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/06/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 15, 2024 Device: Windows Posted February 12, 2014 (edited) Whoever wrote this makes some valid points, and it deserves an A. The writer is stating how he/she believes, a right granted in our Constitution. God is a huge part of my world, and that of my family. But, as a licensed minister and children's pastor for 20+ years, I have a hard time understanding why anyone would seek to force someone to pray or believe something they don't (it certainly is not taught in scripture, and didn't work out too well during the crusades). The public school system should not be a battle ground for the religious or the atheists. These are individual beliefs that should be respected and not attacked. Our kids need to learn how to do math, English, science and the like, not sit in a room with a teacher who believes in lord only knows what, spouting off about their opinions and pushing agendas that have nothing to do with academic education. Family values should be taught at home, not in the public school system. That said, respect is a two-way street. Those who don't believe should be just as respectful of other's rights to believe. I have many friends, from many places and belief systems. We don't all believe the same things, and we don't let that get in the way of our friendship. There are three words that should help both the believer and the non-believer: HUMILITY, KINDNESS and RESPECT. Believer or not, take them for a test drive before you speak. Landshark Edited February 12, 2014 by LandShark OSIRIS 1 Awards
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