Dark Asylumn Posted July 24, 2011 Member ID: 809 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 41 Topic Count: 252 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 2840 Content Per Day: 0.50 Reputation: 1032 Achievement Points: 20424 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/29/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 11 hours ago Birthday: 06/25/1979 Device: Windows Posted July 24, 2011 hey yall well I had just finished watching Spliffer's "My Dog" video and just as soon as it ended all my screens went black. shit its happened before just "hard power off" (shivers) reboot and should be fine. did that, funky 4 core bios activation message, fixed that, restart get to startup blank screens, hard reboot (shit) gets to screen black. finally get to safemode option and start in safemode, as I am now flabbergasted at what the hell the problem could be. black screens. wth. so I finally get it bootin properly and starts up and corrupted MSE shit. so i pull up hardware monitor and it shows my newer 4890 at 95c what the hell, so I start checkin things turning all fans on. wtf. took less than a minute to check and I look up and its at 106c holy hell get this son of a bitch shut down before it starts frying bacon. took computer to garage and blew the dust out. pulled the card put fresh new paste on vc cpu and heat sink. put it back together and hooked it up this time I put my hand under the card to see of fan was spinning. nope I gave it a twirl and she tried to go but didnt. shut the comp back down and got on Lady's comp and put a ticket in with XFX. got to thinking shit I cant use her comp for the next week, I gotta redneck engineer something. I took the 80 mm loud ass fan off the side of my case, (I only run that one when really desperate) and zip tied it over the non working fan thats built into the heatsink, and turned her on. and wow this card has never been so cool( its a hot running badboy) its at 62c which is still way to high for me at idle. so I need some advise on a liquid setup for my cpu and video card. nothing cheap and easily broken, but I also dont have piles of cash laying around. Thanks for your help. BTW this all happened bc last night or yesterday I advised someone to get an XFX card because I have never had any trouble with it. this is a problem but minor, as my redneck ingenuity made it cooler and better than it was factory. at least its running for the time being. on and the picture seems fine and all seems well right now. we will see after a few hours on the zombie server. that always gets the temps going. and what is a good temp monitoring program with stand alone gauges. Awards
CplMOFO Posted July 24, 2011 Member ID: 1924 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 68 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1012 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 101 Achievement Points: 5864 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/26/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 1 Birthday: 05/30/1973 Device: Windows Posted July 24, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiTUuc2_PyA This is a clip that might help you....shown there is an Arctic cooling Accelero twin turbo... Well,it's 43 buck US... http://www.ncixus.com/products/48358/Twinturbopro/Arctic %20Cooling/ For the CPU...try something like a self-contained system, like a corsair H50, H60 or H70.... Anyway, please post your system specs and your case...that helps to propose stuff!!! Awards
Dark Asylumn Posted July 24, 2011 Member ID: 809 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 41 Topic Count: 252 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 2840 Content Per Day: 0.50 Reputation: 1032 Achievement Points: 20424 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/29/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 11 hours ago Birthday: 06/25/1979 Device: Windows Author Posted July 24, 2011 the self contained systems are for the most part junk. leaky and hard to replace faulty pumps. but thanks for the input, I do like the card unit though the case is a thermaltake aguila http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Product.aspx?C=1312&ID=1439#Tab0 and these high temps are only for the current session Awards
PimpedOutPete Posted July 24, 2011 Member ID: 174 Group: +++ COD2 Head Admin Followers: 130 Topic Count: 387 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 15031 Content Per Day: 2.60 Reputation: 8047 Achievement Points: 92232 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 59 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 14 hours ago Birthday: 04/23/1970 Device: Macintosh Posted July 24, 2011 Before going liquid cooled, have you checked the fans you have installed?.. Video card fan, power supply, main case fans... Are they all working properly.. Pete Awards
Dark Asylumn Posted July 24, 2011 Member ID: 809 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 41 Topic Count: 252 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 2840 Content Per Day: 0.50 Reputation: 1032 Achievement Points: 20424 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/29/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 11 hours ago Birthday: 06/25/1979 Device: Windows Author Posted July 24, 2011 Pete did ya read my long ass book up there ya idiot no the video card pan is not working, I have a 80 mm case fan piggybacked on the broken fan and my temps are better than stock but still high. my other temps are due to very high vc temps being emitted into the case. once i can suffenciently cool the card the other temps will level down. they have already dropped 5-10degrees f. so if I can get the one down then I will be fine I was going liquid bc I didnt think anyone made an air cooler that would tame the 4890. but the reviews on the tein turbo pro seem like that is my ticket ahhhhh this sour diesel is so energetic Awards
NightmareXI Posted July 24, 2011 Member ID: 68 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 44 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2709 Content Per Day: 0.47 Reputation: 132 Achievement Points: 14854 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 20, 2022 Birthday: 04/13/1969 Posted July 24, 2011 hey man, the 4890 is a really hot headed card LOL....temps on high load at 90°C are pretty normal I hate graphics running at these temps though the companys said this is okay....LOL if you want to fix this for a small amount of money go for the accelero like Mofo said I am using 2 of the three fans version on my 6970 CF setup and they do a great job there temps are 38 °C on idle and highest temps around 60°C after playing a couple of hours even running furmark the temps are at 65 °C the second card is even colder if you really think about getting a watercooled sys wait for the Corsair H 80 or even the H100 the H 80 is available yet here in germany and the H100 will be released soon I am doing a lot of research atm about water cooling because I want to change my sys to water cooling but there are a lot of things you have to look at if you want to add a self arranged sys I have read a lot and still I am not at the point to be sure to buy the right components LOL Good Luck with this Awards
CplMOFO Posted July 24, 2011 Member ID: 1924 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 68 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1012 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 101 Achievement Points: 5864 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/26/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 1 Birthday: 05/30/1973 Device: Windows Posted July 24, 2011 Dark, I suggested a self-contained CPU cooler for pricing considerations. Going full-fledge water-cooling might not be worth it in your situation. As you know, the CPU waterblock+pump+reservoir+radiator(s) cost a lot of cash. for the same price as a decent dedicated CPU loop, you possibly could grab a 2500K sandy bridge CPU (running cool) with a decent mobo+8GB of RAM (good RAM is SO cheap right now)... As for watercooling your 4890....no way...a GTX560TI runs cooler and is twice as powerful for $225...(instead of buying the extra stuff need to watercool the GPU on top of the CPU.... The self contained CPU loops such as the higher-end ANTEC 920, Corsair H60 and up, are good enough and come with a warranty...I think if there is physical damage caused by a leak, that warranty covers damage...don't quote me on that, but it's worth a read.... for your Thermaltake case, it looks pretty much like my Thermaltake Armor jR...good looking, but lacking in the "airflow department"....I don't use that case anymore, because a cheap ANTEC 300 (equiped with a top 140mm fan and a 120mm exhaust) + 2 x 120mm fans is cooling better... Your 4890, like mentioned by Nightmare, is a hot -running biatch....the AC cooler might be your best best for now, but it will keep blowing that hot air from the GPU onto the other components in the case.....that heat would have to be exhausted somehow... and your case temperatures will IMHO get WARM... Awards
WiZiD Posted July 24, 2011 Member ID: 804 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 32 Topic Count: 446 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 3600 Content Per Day: 0.63 Reputation: 1053 Achievement Points: 24386 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 4 Joined: 11/28/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 3 Birthday: 04/25/1960 Device: Windows Posted July 24, 2011 please post what socket CPU. As those are cheap as well. Shit I may have some of those too this is an inexpensive fix Awards
WiZiD Posted July 24, 2011 Member ID: 804 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 32 Topic Count: 446 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 3600 Content Per Day: 0.63 Reputation: 1053 Achievement Points: 24386 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 4 Joined: 11/28/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 3 Birthday: 04/25/1960 Device: Windows Posted July 24, 2011 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186043&Tpk=4890%20cooler This is the cooler I would choose for sure... Awards
WiZiD Posted July 24, 2011 Member ID: 804 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 32 Topic Count: 446 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 3600 Content Per Day: 0.63 Reputation: 1053 Achievement Points: 24386 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 4 Joined: 11/28/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 3 Birthday: 04/25/1960 Device: Windows Posted July 24, 2011 I live up north. In the winter they give a temperature and a wind chill temperature which is always cooler. The stronger the wind the cooler it will seem. That being said the faster the air flow through your computer case the cooler it will run. I mostly set the front fans sucking the air in and the rear fans blowing out. This creates a wind chill in your computer case. The more air flow through your computer the cooler it will run. I hope that makes sense. OK I'm done with my rant. Awards
WiZiD Posted July 24, 2011 Member ID: 804 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 32 Topic Count: 446 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 3600 Content Per Day: 0.63 Reputation: 1053 Achievement Points: 24386 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 4 Joined: 11/28/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 3 Birthday: 04/25/1960 Device: Windows Posted July 24, 2011 I have two 4890 2gig cards.........impossible to find now Awards
Boomer Posted July 24, 2011 Member ID: 2083 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 42 Topic Count: 172 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 3554 Content Per Day: 0.67 Reputation: 4992 Achievement Points: 23761 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/31/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 14, 2014 Birthday: 10/20/1962 Posted July 24, 2011 well with those water cooler towers, I heard it is VERY IMPORTANT to keep your water changed and clean all the time or BAD things can happen to you! Thats why I use a full size tower with 6 fans, and thanks to my cooler master V8 my core temp has never been over 37 I think even when OC my new VC! Thats all I know...
GorillaXI Posted July 24, 2011 Member ID: 62 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 73 Topic Count: 480 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 4124 Content Per Day: 0.71 Reputation: 1413 Achievement Points: 27905 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 10 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 4, 2015 Birthday: 06/16/1972 Posted July 24, 2011 I would have to agree with Boomer on this one. I used to run a liquid cooler. If you don't maintain it on a regular basis, it can get ugly. I also run several fans + the V8. I know this might sound stupid, but do you have a fan on the front pulling in fresh air and one on the back exhausting the stale air? Then one my case I have one on top pulling out the air from the top. Plus the fan on the graphics card with the V8 on the processor. And also the same with Boomer I never get above 38. Just checking.
Boomer Posted July 24, 2011 Member ID: 2083 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 42 Topic Count: 172 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 3554 Content Per Day: 0.67 Reputation: 4992 Achievement Points: 23761 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/31/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 14, 2014 Birthday: 10/20/1962 Posted July 24, 2011 thanks Gorilla! also do you keep you fan blades clean for smooth air flow, also very important!
Dark Asylumn Posted July 24, 2011 Member ID: 809 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 41 Topic Count: 252 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 2840 Content Per Day: 0.50 Reputation: 1032 Achievement Points: 20424 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/29/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 11 hours ago Birthday: 06/25/1979 Device: Windows Author Posted July 24, 2011 CplMOFO Dark, I suggested a self-contained CPU cooler for pricing considerations. Going full-fledge water-cooling might not be worth it in your situation. As you know, the CPU waterblock+pump+reservoir+radiator(s) cost a lot of cash. for the same price as a decent dedicated CPU loop, you possibly could grab a 2500K sandy bridge CPU (running cool) with a decent mobo+8GB of RAM (good RAM is SO cheap right now)... As for watercooling your 4890....no way...a GTX560TI runs cooler and is twice as powerful for $225...(instead of buying the extra stuff need to watercool the GPU on top of the CPU.... The self contained CPU loops such as the higher-end ANTEC 920, Corsair H60 and up, are good enough and come with a warranty...I think if there is physical damage caused by a leak, that warranty covers damage...don't quote me on that, but it's worth a read.... for your Thermaltake case, it looks pretty much like my Thermaltake Armor jR...good looking, but lacking in the "airflow department"....I don't use that case anymore, because a cheap ANTEC 300 (equiped with a top 140mm fan and a 120mm exhaust) + 2 x 120mm fans is cooling better... Your 4890, like mentioned by Nightmare, is a hot -running biatch....the AC cooler might be your best best for now, but it will keep blowing that hot air from the GPU onto the other components in the case.....that heat would have to be exhausted somehow... and your case temperatures will IMHO get WARM... well there is NO way I am returning to intel I just got rid of my first and only intel mid last year and built this one. the 4890 was purchased about july last year. and as far as I am concerned nvidia can suck it as I always seem to find errors while running nvidia. sorry MoFo is it seems like I am dissing your advise as I absolutely love your advise on the artic cooler but for me I just cant stand intel and nvidia. I am running a 955 black on an AM3 socket. 2 intake fans 2-3 exhaust fans depending what I'm doing. like I said earlier my cpu and mb and overall sys is running cooler now that I am able to get more air across the card. I am in agreemance with you all I dont really wanna run liquid but I didnt know what else would tame those card temps. And just to put a nail in the fack I Love my system just ask dawgy if he would want to change anything about his system other than the amount of ram. I built 4 of these systems I am running now all with almost the same parts through and through. one for me one for lady one for rumncoke and one for dawgy. mine and ladys got a 4890 dawgy only got onboard and rumncoke got a gt220. again the later 2 want better cards dawgy got 8 gigs ram instead of 4 now I think. other than that these systems are really stable and good. the cpu stays cool everything is great other than the high vc temps. and wizid your running 2 2gb 4890 shit whats YOUR secret for not roasting marshmallows over your cards those gotta be smoking lol thanks for all your help I think i am gonna order the artic cooler as from the reviews it gets those numbers way down into check Awards
GorillaXI Posted July 24, 2011 Member ID: 62 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 73 Topic Count: 480 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 4124 Content Per Day: 0.71 Reputation: 1413 Achievement Points: 27905 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 10 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 4, 2015 Birthday: 06/16/1972 Posted July 24, 2011 Just looking at TigerDirect.com and saw this CPU fan. Close to the V8 but very inexpensive. Its a Cooler Master Hyper N520 CPU Cooler - Socket LGA 775, AM2, AM2+, 1156, AM3, 1366 Only $29.99
Dark Asylumn Posted July 24, 2011 Member ID: 809 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 41 Topic Count: 252 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 2840 Content Per Day: 0.50 Reputation: 1032 Achievement Points: 20424 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/29/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 11 hours ago Birthday: 06/25/1979 Device: Windows Author Posted July 24, 2011 I have this one I think or one just like it. I added a second fan and I have no cpu issues but thanks Gman Awards
CplMOFO Posted July 24, 2011 Member ID: 1924 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 68 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1012 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 101 Achievement Points: 5864 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/26/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 1 Birthday: 05/30/1973 Device: Windows Posted July 24, 2011 Dark Asylumn CplMOFO Dark, I suggested a self-contained CPU cooler for pricing considerations. Going full-fledge water-cooling might not be worth it in your situation. As you know, the CPU waterblock+pump+reservoir+radiator(s) cost a lot of cash. for the same price as a decent dedicated CPU loop, you possibly could grab a 2500K sandy bridge CPU (running cool) with a decent mobo+8GB of RAM (good RAM is SO cheap right now)... As for watercooling your 4890....no way...a GTX560TI runs cooler and is twice as powerful for $225...(instead of buying the extra stuff need to watercool the GPU on top of the CPU.... The self contained CPU loops such as the higher-end ANTEC 920, Corsair H60 and up, are good enough and come with a warranty...I think if there is physical damage caused by a leak, that warranty covers damage...don't quote me on that, but it's worth a read.... for your Thermaltake case, it looks pretty much like my Thermaltake Armor jR...good looking, but lacking in the "airflow department"....I don't use that case anymore, because a cheap ANTEC 300 (equiped with a top 140mm fan and a 120mm exhaust) + 2 x 120mm fans is cooling better... Your 4890, like mentioned by Nightmare, is a hot -running biatch....the AC cooler might be your best best for now, but it will keep blowing that hot air from the GPU onto the other components in the case.....that heat would have to be exhausted somehow... and your case temperatures will IMHO get WARM... well there is NO way I am returning to intel I just got rid of my first and only intel mid last year and built this one. the 4890 was purchased about july last year. and as far as I am concerned nvidia can suck it as I always seem to find errors while running nvidia. sorry MoFo is it seems like I am dissing your advise as I absolutely love your advise on the artic cooler but for me I just cant stand intel and nvidia. I am running a 955 black on an AM3 socket. 2 intake fans 2-3 exhaust fans depending what I'm doing. like I said earlier my cpu and mb and overall sys is running cooler now that I am able to get more air across the card. I am in agreemance with you all I dont really wanna run liquid but I didnt know what else would tame those card temps. And just to put a nail in the fack I Love my system just ask dawgy if he would want to change anything about his system other than the amount of ram. I built 4 of these systems I am running now all with almost the same parts through and through. one for me one for lady one for rumncoke and one for dawgy. mine and ladys got a 4890 dawgy only got onboard and rumncoke got a gt220. again the later 2 want better cards dawgy got 8 gigs ram instead of 4 now I think. other than that these systems are really stable and good. the cpu stays cool everything is great other than the high vc temps. and wizid your running 2 2gb 4890 shit whats YOUR secret for not roasting marshmallows over your cards those gotta be smoking lol thanks for all your help I think i am gonna order the artic cooler as from the reviews it gets those numbers way down into check No problems dude! No need to go all intel/nvidia, as everythign is a matter of personal choice. I was just point at the fact that custom watercooling is expensive (you could buy a gfx card cooler and a nice case for half the price of watercooling) and, as others mentioned, is a PITA to maintain... My point: Good aftermarket air cooling + good, well ventilated case = win!!! Awards
Dark Asylumn Posted July 24, 2011 Member ID: 809 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 41 Topic Count: 252 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 2840 Content Per Day: 0.50 Reputation: 1032 Achievement Points: 20424 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/29/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 11 hours ago Birthday: 06/25/1979 Device: Windows Author Posted July 24, 2011 the only reason I am sooooo anti them is because I finally after many years decided to try them (intel) I got a lemon and now I have a tart taste to them as far as nvidia I really really loved them up until a few years back and then bam all of the cards and software I got from them had major driver compatibility and system stability issues. the gt220 the I gave rumncoke was one of those I know crap card but it should not crash your comp twice a day just because its bored lol. I know its a brand thing like chevy and ford. you usually end up loving a brand you had real good luck with. I thin the biggest thing with the artic that I will purchase is it has the heat sinks for the chips on the card. I think that is what really chills it out. I just honestly thought you had to go liquid to cool a 4890 as as we all know it is a hothead. thank you guys for your advise and help. oh is my first post up there really that confusing to read. Shit I've lost my ability to speak properly and functionally. oh well Awards
Dark Asylumn Posted July 26, 2011 Member ID: 809 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 41 Topic Count: 252 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 2840 Content Per Day: 0.50 Reputation: 1032 Achievement Points: 20424 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/29/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 11 hours ago Birthday: 06/25/1979 Device: Windows Author Posted July 26, 2011 cool got my new cooler in today and installed it wow was running 65-70c idle and over 100 load now I am at 39c idle and dont know what at load I am sure its not near as bad now lol thank you guys for your help you are awesome here is a pic of my redneck fan fix which didnt work too well but allowed to run my comp until the twin turbo pro got here Awards
Boomer Posted July 26, 2011 Member ID: 2083 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 42 Topic Count: 172 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 3554 Content Per Day: 0.67 Reputation: 4992 Achievement Points: 23761 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/31/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 14, 2014 Birthday: 10/20/1962 Posted July 26, 2011 whatever works for you, thats what matters most
CplMOFO Posted July 27, 2011 Member ID: 1924 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 68 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1012 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 101 Achievement Points: 5864 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/26/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 1 Birthday: 05/30/1973 Device: Windows Posted July 27, 2011 Dark Asylum, Please post pics of the card with the cooler installed you B! You can use MSI AFTERBURNER to monitor your in-game temps....using the on-screen overlay... and give me some of those cookies! Awards
Dark Asylumn Posted July 27, 2011 Member ID: 809 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 41 Topic Count: 252 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 2840 Content Per Day: 0.50 Reputation: 1032 Achievement Points: 20424 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/29/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 11 hours ago Birthday: 06/25/1979 Device: Windows Author Posted July 27, 2011 oh sorry I ate all the cookies damn they were good. you should've tried some Awards
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