PrimalFear

I love Rugby now, it's the most wonderful game I have ever seen. Such sportsmanship, so athletic. Time to expand the satellite channels

lol I love Southpark Shadowlady lmao

Sonovabich Thanks for the link Primal i just downloaded it and played a couple of games, i think my video card might be ok np SOB and that's always good news, I wasn't sure on the vid card myself I am actually surprised the game is not really that demanding on my resources, I was happy about that, or at least pleasantly surprised

Happy Birthday Angel, Redrum and Nitro hope you get/got a lot of smiles

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I'm posting this just in case someone doesn't know it's free for all to try now, no you do NOT have to pre-order the game to try it, this beta was opened to EVERYONE on Sep29th ...... go to this site and click the link http://store.origin.com/store/ea/en_US/html/originweb/play4free/pbPage.play-free-games-en_US?easid=Origin-BF3_Web_Hero_PreOrderNow You will need to download the game (took 40min for me) and you'll need to create an "Origin" account if you don't already have one. Have fun all Enjoy

I don't know if everyone knows this but instead of wondering if you can run the game with your outdated vid card, why don't you just download the open beta and try it? It's free for everyone now (since Sep29th) whether you pre-ordered or not. I'll post the info on another thread just to be sure. BTW I can run the game with no problems at medium settings with my old outdated 8800gts oc'd, I can run it at high settings with very few issues, but there is an occasional video lag spike here and there, I have not tried "Ultra" settings. Here is the rest of my specs to compare.... Win7 64bit q6600 quad core (G0 stepping) 4GB Crucial Ballistix DDR3 7,200rpm maxtor SATA HD MSI 8800gts oc'd (G92 core competes with a 9800gt)

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From a different perspective..... Makes me think how funny it is, how an imaginary line of ownership can establish totally different freedoms. I look out my window from Vancouver Washington and can see Downtown Portland Oregon, what I can't do here I can do there and vice versa. Good story Harry, I like the ditty btw

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lol thanx Pete

hackeklaus i think this box is about 20 to 50 years old im not really sure right now. im gonna take a closer look at it tomorrow I still can't tell if you really did find this box at work. If you did I can tell you what I think it is, I have seen these boxes before. If it is in fact real and this is not part of your joke, then I believe it is a WW2 German Medical Field box and it can be valuable, it could however be Belgian or Swiss, but it's not from the U.S. or it would be stamped on the OUTSIDE. If you open the box and look at the inside of the lid, it should have the unit and original content info stamped on the inside. Depending on it's condition and contents and what unit owned it, it could be worth $200-$1000 especially if there is a svastica stamped on the inside of it. Don't damage it, don't try to clean it or paint it or anything until you have it authenticated.

Sorry to hear this, after 17 yrs in one place (wow) I'm sure you deserved better than what you got. I wish the best for you and hope this is all over very soon. Good luck to you Merlin

Happy B-day Jacko, hope it's a good one

Very nice toy you have there Magnus, enjoy the thermals

I have one to add too... What you used to be able to do all night, now takes you all night to do and not everyone involved necessarily had the same level of enjoyment.

I think the mother said it all..... The boy's mom said, "It's pathetic that a grown man would attack a defenseless child like this. If you can't handle losing to a child then you shouldn't be playing games."

Happy birthday Smurf hope you had a good one

I'm a little late but Happy birthday Sassy

Thank you everyone, I really enjoyed my 19th annual 21st Birthday celebration

wow I'm getting some great help here, I must have read something wrong about the MSI warranty, I gotta go get my son from school and I'll be back to read up on the link Boom posted and those sites as well Mofo here in abit. Thanx big time Mofo and Boomslang I needed this info and I appreciate it seriously

CplMOFO You pretty much figured it our Primal! The regular 560 is just an overclocked 460....the 560Ti has MORE cores, textures units and polymorphs whatevers... Anyways, in benchmarks, there difference shows... Chart from HARDWARECANUCKS.COM On top of that, don't forget that a lot of 560Ti are running factory overclocked....mines are the MSI TwinFrozr II OC ones...they run at 880Mhz instead of 822MHz...it shows also... Also, OFTEN, the price of the 560 Ti cards (with rebates or promotions, sales) is lower or equal to 560 prices....another thing to consider.... Newegg.com got 3 MSI 560ti models available... -The 560Ti OC 1GB (like mines) $224 after MIR -The 560Ti OC WITH 2GB of MEMORY $269 -The 560TI HAWK 1GB (higher overclock and even better cooler, but a little noisier... $239 after rebates... Of other brands, ASUS (directcuII cooler is nice), of EVGA DS (the dual fan ones) are good contenders in the nVIDIA realm... Well I haven't figured out everything yet, I need to narrow down the brand and model. I've been going through newegg customer reviews on several brands and I keep seeing all these complaints about heat and artifacts and blackscreens etc and I know there is such a thing as a bad lot (it happens) and some percentage of the chips on the waffer will malfunction. But that doesn't mean these people got a bad card. I'm leaning toward MSI either the OC'2 or the Hawk but not sure yet. Other problems I was seeing is apparently the card is very very heavy and will unseat itself from sagging, and unplugging it and putting it back corrects alot of people's trouble. MSI lifetime warranty gives me some confidence but I'm still not sure. The MSI card reviews have said that when people have trouble they use the afterburner software and scale back the oc abit and corrects the problems for awhile and then they come back after a few months, that tells me heat/clean it maybe? Who knows, has anyone here had any issues with bad brands or models? Your MSI cards are solid I assume? I'm running an MSI 8800 OC'd right now and never so much of a hicup from it. I'll be running only one card btw. You think MSI is a safe way to go or would you recommend the EVGA or PNY or Asus (I know from experience Asus usually oc's really well) The MSI Hawk is factory OC'd at 950mhz (very nice) but that's only if its solid of course, you think I'm on the right track leaning toward MSI? Your 880mhz card doesn't seem to be in stock at newegg anymore so I'm stuck there atm I just don't know which one to go with right now, thoughts/suggestions/personal experience comments would be greatly appreciated. I want to save a few bucks if I can, but I don't want to save 30-40 bucks for something inferior either. Thanx all for the help I've already gotten btw I appreciate it EDIT Your card is in stock again, says in stock now, last night I was looking at it and it was out of stock after I viewed this on ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-N560GTX-TI-Twin-Frozr-II-OC-GeForce-GTX-560-Ti-Fermi-1GB-256-bit-GDDR5-/150667191097?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item231476e339&autorefresh=true Decisions decisions

n/m I just found the answer indirectly over at overclock.net I'll post it just in case it's useful to somebody else Quote: The best piece of information anyone can give you about this topic is that buying a 560 non Ti at full price is literally like throwing away $50 compared to buying a 460. Edit - The 560 non Ti is a lower performance version of it's Ti counterpart. There's been many threads about the 560 non ti on here. Price to performance ratio wise you get more for your money if you buy a 460 or 560 Ti than you would with a 560 non ti at full price. Edit 2 - Then there's also the aspect that the high-end 560 Ti's offer close to 570 performance for significantly cheaper, but, as always, if you want 570 performance get a 570. Edit 3 - If you absolutely want to get as much performance as you can with your budget, look for open box 560 Ti's.

Ok I did my homework for price and performance for the best gamer card in my price range and I have just a few questions I'm trying to get answered. I selected the GTX 560 as the best card in the $250 range for it's overclockability and performance, what I am having trouble getting is in the "Ti" version of the card. From what I get out of it, the GTX 560 Ti uses the GF114 core, I know this is superior to the GF104 (from the GTX 460) core by being reworked for lower power and higher clock speeds. I keep seeing the non-Ti version compared to the 460 but the speeds between the 560 non-Ti and 560 Ti stock are only 12 mhz difference. Now because all the performance doesn't come into play until you overclock it (essentially turning it into a GTX 570 stock competitor), I'm trying to figure out if the 560 non-Ti is just a GF104 core that has been overclocked or if it is in fact using the GF114 core with slightly fewer shader cores. I keep going through all these different reviews and I get benchmarks and stuff but I can't find anything on the true difference between the two versions. I ran into this EXACT same thing when I bought my aging 8800 where some had the G88 (I think it was) and some had the G92 which I got (thankfully) now here I am again. HELP PLEASE! A link would be great but I'll take what I can get. Thanks in advance