Wow thanks Sonovabich, without this post I would never have learned who I was descended from, apparently 300,000 years ago my great, great x 100 grandad was on holiday in Jebel Irhoud in Morocco with my Grandma, must have been some wild weekend cos look what popped up only 300,000 years later, lil ol me! They moved to Europe around 50,000 years ago when the local working mens club closed due to lack of water to brew beer, and our family have never looked back, mainly due to a genetic defect affecting our neck muscles. Famous members of our family have included legionnaires (disease), pirates, queens (aka drag acts), murderers, felons, arsonists and con men, however we have had someone truly evil, a politician, but no one speaks of him. Recently I thought of carbon dating some of the wifes yorkshire puddings but common sense prevailed and I fed them to the dog, are there any good vets in Darlington ??