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My Gaming computer went down :(  My system has two hard drives with two operating systems. On boot up I elect business (XP Pro)   or   Gaming (Win 7 Pro).

 

The XP side died and had the symptoms of a bad HDD.  The Gaming side continued to work.  Purchased a new HDD and formated it for XP Pro and Installed. 

 

The XP (fresh install) side still does not work.  The Win 7 HDD works. 

 

Currently at a lost as to How to fix it.

 

Will be on the side lines (with my old laptop) checking the XI website till we get this fixed.

 

Any ideas would be apprieciated.

 

 

 

 

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Are you  using the windows boot loader f8 to chose between HD ?

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Sorry the other question is how did you load the Xp pro onto the new HD ? Windows has a problem with loadinf old operating systems while a new one is present. So make sure your new HD is the only one present when loadinf then hook both up and use the F8 key ? Am I close ? LOL its hard to tell with little info sorry.

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looks like your windows bootloader is corrupt...

 

at least I think you used that? you had the black screen while win startup which shows you the both different OSes to choose from?

now it starts directly to win 7 and there is no choice anymore?

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Let me see if i can clear up the problem, with a fresh install of windows xp on a new HDD the computer boots up and i can browse threw my computer under xp, but when trying to launch programs (IE for example) the computer freezes. the windows 7 OS seems to be working fine, it may be a little slow but definitely not crashing like XP.

 

I have ran a check disk, and memory diagnostic both passed. i would assume its not a virus or anything because it is a fresh install. any ideas?

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After you load XP you need to "fix" your bootloader

  • Using your Windows 7 installation disc, boot to the command prompt at startup

  • Type in these comands below, and press enter after each one.

    • bootrec /FixMbr

    • bootrec /FixBoot

    • bootrec /RebuildBcd

  • Exit the command prompt and restart the computer.

  • At this point, Windows 7 should boot up the same way before trying to install XP.

     

    Next in XP, make sure you have the following programs installed

    .net framework 2.0 or better (32 or 64 bit depending upon your XP installation

    Download and install EASYBCD

     

    Run EASYBCD (its what I use)

     

    Here is a link to the procedure

     

    http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/8057-dual-boot-installation-windows-7-xp.html

     

    Hope that helps

     

     

     

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that because when u reinstalled win xp it showin that u installed it after win 7 any dual boot system u have to install older windows first or it wont work just fyi

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Not technically true Cobra. You can install XP on a machine with 7 already on it, but there are a lot more steps to follow.

My computer has both and it had 7 on it first.

Just follow the step by step in the link I gave you 1/2 a ton and you should be ok

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I have 4 OS on mine ...XP32 ...XP64....Tiny&(32)........Win7 Ultimate.   I use OSL2000.... this handy utility here works really good and hassle free. You may like to check it out here........

 

http://www.osloader.com/

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All above is good and true but what bothers me is you say your win 7 load seems slow and XP one crashes. SO I don't know. I'm guessing sata drives so try changing out the plug on the MB to a different one for your XP HD maybe even just switching the Win 7 and XP plugs @ MB. Check to see if the MB drivers are there for your XP HD. Refresh BIOS ? I'm wondering if it might be faster to just reload XP here instead of solving this issue as well. You could just have a bad load ? All your updates went fine ? I truly don't see why 2 Operating systems on 2 different HD's would affect how the other one operates except fot the MB going funny on you and the bios going funny as well. So I'm going to say the Win 7 HD just seems slow but is in fact fine. And the XP load is the issue and needs to be redone.  Thats my thought process :) good luck

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Half-A-100 - Two Operating Systems - Down and Out :(

My Gaming computer went down :(  My system has two hard drives with two operating systems. On boot up I elect business (XP Pro)   or   Gaming (Win 7 Pro).

 

The XP side died and had the symptoms of a bad HDD.  The Gaming side continued to work.  Purchased a new HDD and formated it for XP Pro and Installed. 

 

The XP (fresh install) side still does not work.  The Win 7 HDD works. 

 

Currently at a lost as to How to fix it.

 

Will be on the side lines (with my old laptop) checking the XI website till we get this fixed.

 

Any ideas would be apprieciated.

 

 

 

 

 I work wiht the seam idea. 7 an XP two different HD

 

I always disconnect the power from a drive.

So both have their own boat

Never any problems

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i dont get why anyone would do this if you have win7 pro go get windows virtual PC and get XP mode for free. XP will run right inside win7 in a virtual machine.

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i dont get why anyone would do this if you have win7 pro go get windows virtual PC and get XP mode for free. XP will run right inside win7 in a virtual machine.

 

So true.  Dual boot is so old school.  Or I use Virtualbox at (http://www.virtualbox.org/).  I even have a Windows XP Pro ISO image that you can have.   Works a charm :)

 

Hit me Up and I will shadow you and get it all up and running for you.  If you want to do it, firstly raid your (now spare) HDD.

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Here one I just created to show you ;)

 

xp1.JPG

 

xp2.JPG

 

xp3.JPG

 

xp4.JPG

 

xp5.JPG

 

xp6.JPG

 xp7.JPG

 

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that looks pretty slick cavey

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Had the problem, and I fixed it the following way:

 

Get the good drive physically out of the computer, install the corrupted system on the new drive, update it completely and only once finished remount the other systems.

 

Only choose your bootdrive on the bios....

Running Vista 7 pro, XP and Vistapro on three drives, no problem at all

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that looks pretty slick cavey

 Thx Mate.  Still at a complete loss as to way people still use dual boot.  Only possible reason would be not enough memory.  Though in this day and age that's crazy.

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Windows is still faster running on its own partition and Virtal drives are slower.

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I beg to differ.  That XP machine I create took 9 seconds to boot.  In fact it's working faster than my £4000 physical machine, doh!

 

Why do you think most companies are going virtual?  Also you can allocate more processors and memory with these sliders.

 

Sorry Labob that comment is totally inaccurate.  That might have been the case many years ago, but certainly isn't true now.

 

Another reason not to use dual boot, is that backups are a pain.  With this you simply click the snapshot, or clone button, and iit takes a complete image of your virtual machine in one file.  Then simply copy this off your machine.

 

xp8.JPG

 

xp9.JPG

 

xp10.JPG

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snap shots are not the way to back them up found that out the hard way well not in Hyper V anyways good old windows back up works pretty well. Server 2008 has really improved the windows backup even has a bare metal option when backing up

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Well most companies are going virtual because the best feature of a virtual drive is if it gets corrupted you just wipe it build a new one and your done in minutes. Now thats sweet. Your right on back ups but their are alot of ways to back up I use a nas so for me its not an issue. For speed I could see a virtual disk getting close to as fast as a true disk but now we are going into raid arrays to get that type of speed. Getting complicated for some people. So there's lots of reasons for both I like the dual boot because I need the space on my Win 7 HD. But if its just because you have a program that only runs under XP a virtual drive is great. And don't be sorry were only talking nano seconds here :) ( virtual drives do have an extra layer of folders to read through ) I do love all the choices that we have to solve problems we don't need LOL

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Not data the OS install.  I actually use the the clone feature more often than not.  The data drive you point to another location (same as your physical data location, and back that up any which way you want.  I personally use an externally USB drive and mirror my data drive.  The clone feature works like a ghost image.  So if your virtual OS has a problem, BAM load the cloned image :)

 

True on the server 2008, but he is using XP Pro.

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P.S. we use Vsphere for our snapshots at work.  It so much better.

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Wow guys there is no end to possibility's.

 

I have fixed the problem (fresh install of XP) however I don't know what the cause was.

 

I have ran two HD's with two different OS's for some time. My reasoning (being old school as I am) is my office computer and home office computer are XP. What I did was upgrade my home office computer some time back to quad core and the 9800gtx+ (oh showing my aged system) with another HDD and used Win 7 pro on the new set up. The new set up was to get into COD 4.

 

Some of the programs and files I wrote many years back (Lotus 123 version 2.1 thru Millennium) Won't work in Win 7. I also had a game patch crash by home office HD prior to the dual HD set up. With the Dual Boot I keep the business and the playing separate.

 

Thanks again - Its been enlightening and well over my head.

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No worries Half-A-100, glad you got it sorted.  If you ever want to try it out for shits and giggles, hit me up.  Or anyone else for that matter.

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