Half-A-100 Posted August 6, 2011 Member ID: 600 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 15 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 125 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 14 Achievement Points: 840 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/20/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 17 Birthday: 01/25/1958 Device: Windows Posted August 6, 2011 My Gaming computer went down My system has two hard drives with two operating systems. On boot up I elect business (XP Pro) or Gaming (Win 7 Pro). The XP side died and had the symptoms of a bad HDD. The Gaming side continued to work. Purchased a new HDD and formated it for XP Pro and Installed. The XP (fresh install) side still does not work. The Win 7 HDD works. Currently at a lost as to How to fix it. Will be on the side lines (with my old laptop) checking the XI website till we get this fixed. Any ideas would be apprieciated. Awards
Labob Posted August 6, 2011 Member ID: 42 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 50 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 8389 Content Per Day: 1.47 Reputation: 6126 Achievement Points: 54468 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 13 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 22 Birthday: 01/30/1959 Device: Windows Posted August 6, 2011 Are you using the windows boot loader f8 to chose between HD ? Awards
Labob Posted August 6, 2011 Member ID: 42 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 50 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 8389 Content Per Day: 1.47 Reputation: 6126 Achievement Points: 54468 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 13 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 22 Birthday: 01/30/1959 Device: Windows Posted August 6, 2011 Sorry the other question is how did you load the Xp pro onto the new HD ? Windows has a problem with loadinf old operating systems while a new one is present. So make sure your new HD is the only one present when loadinf then hook both up and use the F8 key ? Am I close ? LOL its hard to tell with little info sorry. Awards
NightmareXI Posted August 6, 2011 Member ID: 68 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 44 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2709 Content Per Day: 0.47 Reputation: 132 Achievement Points: 14854 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 20, 2022 Birthday: 04/13/1969 Posted August 6, 2011 looks like your windows bootloader is corrupt... at least I think you used that? you had the black screen while win startup which shows you the both different OSes to choose from? now it starts directly to win 7 and there is no choice anymore? Awards
Half-A-100 Posted August 7, 2011 Member ID: 600 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 15 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 125 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 14 Achievement Points: 840 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/20/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 17 Birthday: 01/25/1958 Device: Windows Author Posted August 7, 2011 Let me see if i can clear up the problem, with a fresh install of windows xp on a new HDD the computer boots up and i can browse threw my computer under xp, but when trying to launch programs (IE for example) the computer freezes. the windows 7 OS seems to be working fine, it may be a little slow but definitely not crashing like XP. I have ran a check disk, and memory diagnostic both passed. i would assume its not a virus or anything because it is a fresh install. any ideas? Awards
NickTheGrip Posted August 7, 2011 Member ID: 177 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 16 Topic Count: 145 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1669 Content Per Day: 0.29 Reputation: 281 Achievement Points: 10581 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 27, 2023 Birthday: 05/08/1961 Posted August 7, 2011 After you load XP you need to "fix" your bootloader Using your Windows 7 installation disc, boot to the command prompt at startup Type in these comands below, and press enter after each one. bootrec /FixMbr bootrec /FixBoot bootrec /RebuildBcd Exit the command prompt and restart the computer. At this point, Windows 7 should boot up the same way before trying to install XP. Next in XP, make sure you have the following programs installed .net framework 2.0 or better (32 or 64 bit depending upon your XP installation Download and install EASYBCD Run EASYBCD (its what I use) Here is a link to the procedure http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/8057-dual-boot-installation-windows-7-xp.html Hope that helps Awards
CobraBites Posted August 7, 2011 Member ID: 2313 Group: Fallen Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 330 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4924 Content Per Day: 0.95 Reputation: 3034 Achievement Points: 33897 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 4 Joined: 03/19/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 2, 2017 Birthday: 05/26/1974 Posted August 7, 2011 that because when u reinstalled win xp it showin that u installed it after win 7 any dual boot system u have to install older windows first or it wont work just fyi
NickTheGrip Posted August 7, 2011 Member ID: 177 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 16 Topic Count: 145 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1669 Content Per Day: 0.29 Reputation: 281 Achievement Points: 10581 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 27, 2023 Birthday: 05/08/1961 Posted August 7, 2011 Not technically true Cobra. You can install XP on a machine with 7 already on it, but there are a lot more steps to follow. My computer has both and it had 7 on it first. Just follow the step by step in the link I gave you 1/2 a ton and you should be ok Awards
RD Posted August 7, 2011 Member ID: 2520 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 5 Topic Count: 50 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 627 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 48 Achievement Points: 3748 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/23/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 16, 2018 Birthday: 08/18/1953 Posted August 7, 2011 I have 4 OS on mine ...XP32 ...XP64....Tiny&(32)........Win7 Ultimate. I use OSL2000.... this handy utility here works really good and hassle free. You may like to check it out here........ http://www.osloader.com/
Labob Posted August 7, 2011 Member ID: 42 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 50 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 8389 Content Per Day: 1.47 Reputation: 6126 Achievement Points: 54468 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 13 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 22 Birthday: 01/30/1959 Device: Windows Posted August 7, 2011 All above is good and true but what bothers me is you say your win 7 load seems slow and XP one crashes. SO I don't know. I'm guessing sata drives so try changing out the plug on the MB to a different one for your XP HD maybe even just switching the Win 7 and XP plugs @ MB. Check to see if the MB drivers are there for your XP HD. Refresh BIOS ? I'm wondering if it might be faster to just reload XP here instead of solving this issue as well. You could just have a bad load ? All your updates went fine ? I truly don't see why 2 Operating systems on 2 different HD's would affect how the other one operates except fot the MB going funny on you and the bios going funny as well. So I'm going to say the Win 7 HD just seems slow but is in fact fine. And the XP load is the issue and needs to be redone. Thats my thought process good luck Awards
Super Max Posted August 7, 2011 Member ID: 558 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 57 Topic Count: 577 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 3788 Content Per Day: 0.67 Reputation: 1487 Achievement Points: 29091 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 10/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 27 Birthday: 06/09/1964 Device: Windows Posted August 7, 2011 Half-A-100 - Two Operating Systems - Down and Out My Gaming computer went down My system has two hard drives with two operating systems. On boot up I elect business (XP Pro) or Gaming (Win 7 Pro). The XP side died and had the symptoms of a bad HDD. The Gaming side continued to work. Purchased a new HDD and formated it for XP Pro and Installed. The XP (fresh install) side still does not work. The Win 7 HDD works. Currently at a lost as to How to fix it. Will be on the side lines (with my old laptop) checking the XI website till we get this fixed. Any ideas would be apprieciated. I work wiht the seam idea. 7 an XP two different HD I always disconnect the power from a drive. So both have their own boat Never any problems Awards
Tball Posted August 7, 2011 Member ID: 112 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 2 Topic Count: 104 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1132 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 228 Achievement Points: 6975 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 3, 2015 Birthday: 10/09/1960 Posted August 7, 2011 i dont get why anyone would do this if you have win7 pro go get windows virtual PC and get XP mode for free. XP will run right inside win7 in a virtual machine.
Cavey Posted August 7, 2011 Member ID: 92 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 42 Topic Count: 97 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2241 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 606 Achievement Points: 13358 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 11, 2020 Birthday: 06/09/1977 Posted August 7, 2011 Tball i dont get why anyone would do this if you have win7 pro go get windows virtual PC and get XP mode for free. XP will run right inside win7 in a virtual machine. So true. Dual boot is so old school. Or I use Virtualbox at (http://www.virtualbox.org/). I even have a Windows XP Pro ISO image that you can have. Works a charm Hit me Up and I will shadow you and get it all up and running for you. If you want to do it, firstly raid your (now spare) HDD.
Cavey Posted August 7, 2011 Member ID: 92 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 42 Topic Count: 97 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2241 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 606 Achievement Points: 13358 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 11, 2020 Birthday: 06/09/1977 Posted August 7, 2011 Here one I just created to show you
Tball Posted August 7, 2011 Member ID: 112 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 2 Topic Count: 104 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1132 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 228 Achievement Points: 6975 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 3, 2015 Birthday: 10/09/1960 Posted August 7, 2011 that looks pretty slick cavey
Graffitti Posted August 7, 2011 Member ID: 27 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 9 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 307 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 25 Achievement Points: 1712 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 22, 2021 Birthday: 06/03/1957 Posted August 7, 2011 Had the problem, and I fixed it the following way: Get the good drive physically out of the computer, install the corrupted system on the new drive, update it completely and only once finished remount the other systems. Only choose your bootdrive on the bios.... Running Vista 7 pro, XP and Vistapro on three drives, no problem at all
Cavey Posted August 7, 2011 Member ID: 92 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 42 Topic Count: 97 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2241 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 606 Achievement Points: 13358 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 11, 2020 Birthday: 06/09/1977 Posted August 7, 2011 Tball that looks pretty slick cavey Thx Mate. Still at a complete loss as to way people still use dual boot. Only possible reason would be not enough memory. Though in this day and age that's crazy.
Labob Posted August 7, 2011 Member ID: 42 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 50 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 8389 Content Per Day: 1.47 Reputation: 6126 Achievement Points: 54468 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 13 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 22 Birthday: 01/30/1959 Device: Windows Posted August 7, 2011 Windows is still faster running on its own partition and Virtal drives are slower. Awards
Cavey Posted August 8, 2011 Member ID: 92 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 42 Topic Count: 97 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2241 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 606 Achievement Points: 13358 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 11, 2020 Birthday: 06/09/1977 Posted August 8, 2011 I beg to differ. That XP machine I create took 9 seconds to boot. In fact it's working faster than my £4000 physical machine, doh! Why do you think most companies are going virtual? Also you can allocate more processors and memory with these sliders. Sorry Labob that comment is totally inaccurate. That might have been the case many years ago, but certainly isn't true now. Another reason not to use dual boot, is that backups are a pain. With this you simply click the snapshot, or clone button, and iit takes a complete image of your virtual machine in one file. Then simply copy this off your machine.
Tball Posted August 8, 2011 Member ID: 112 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 2 Topic Count: 104 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1132 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 228 Achievement Points: 6975 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 3, 2015 Birthday: 10/09/1960 Posted August 8, 2011 snap shots are not the way to back them up found that out the hard way well not in Hyper V anyways good old windows back up works pretty well. Server 2008 has really improved the windows backup even has a bare metal option when backing up
Labob Posted August 8, 2011 Member ID: 42 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 50 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 8389 Content Per Day: 1.47 Reputation: 6126 Achievement Points: 54468 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 13 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 22 Birthday: 01/30/1959 Device: Windows Posted August 8, 2011 Well most companies are going virtual because the best feature of a virtual drive is if it gets corrupted you just wipe it build a new one and your done in minutes. Now thats sweet. Your right on back ups but their are alot of ways to back up I use a nas so for me its not an issue. For speed I could see a virtual disk getting close to as fast as a true disk but now we are going into raid arrays to get that type of speed. Getting complicated for some people. So there's lots of reasons for both I like the dual boot because I need the space on my Win 7 HD. But if its just because you have a program that only runs under XP a virtual drive is great. And don't be sorry were only talking nano seconds here ( virtual drives do have an extra layer of folders to read through ) I do love all the choices that we have to solve problems we don't need LOL Awards
Cavey Posted August 8, 2011 Member ID: 92 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 42 Topic Count: 97 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2241 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 606 Achievement Points: 13358 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 11, 2020 Birthday: 06/09/1977 Posted August 8, 2011 Not data the OS install. I actually use the the clone feature more often than not. The data drive you point to another location (same as your physical data location, and back that up any which way you want. I personally use an externally USB drive and mirror my data drive. The clone feature works like a ghost image. So if your virtual OS has a problem, BAM load the cloned image True on the server 2008, but he is using XP Pro.
Cavey Posted August 8, 2011 Member ID: 92 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 42 Topic Count: 97 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2241 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 606 Achievement Points: 13358 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 11, 2020 Birthday: 06/09/1977 Posted August 8, 2011 P.S. we use Vsphere for our snapshots at work. It so much better.
Half-A-100 Posted August 9, 2011 Member ID: 600 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 15 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 125 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 14 Achievement Points: 840 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/20/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 17 Birthday: 01/25/1958 Device: Windows Author Posted August 9, 2011 Wow guys there is no end to possibility's. I have fixed the problem (fresh install of XP) however I don't know what the cause was. I have ran two HD's with two different OS's for some time. My reasoning (being old school as I am) is my office computer and home office computer are XP. What I did was upgrade my home office computer some time back to quad core and the 9800gtx+ (oh showing my aged system) with another HDD and used Win 7 pro on the new set up. The new set up was to get into COD 4. Some of the programs and files I wrote many years back (Lotus 123 version 2.1 thru Millennium) Won't work in Win 7. I also had a game patch crash by home office HD prior to the dual HD set up. With the Dual Boot I keep the business and the playing separate. Thanks again - Its been enlightening and well over my head. Awards
Cavey Posted August 9, 2011 Member ID: 92 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 42 Topic Count: 97 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2241 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 606 Achievement Points: 13358 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 11, 2020 Birthday: 06/09/1977 Posted August 9, 2011 No worries Half-A-100, glad you got it sorted. If you ever want to try it out for shits and giggles, hit me up. Or anyone else for that matter.
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