the revolution has begun..what bundy ranch means to all

[HarryWeezer]

"Locked away in a FEMA camp somewhere?"

 

Uh, OK.

 

But then, we move to complete fantasyland:

 

"In one aspect of 911, the 40, 6 inch thick I-beams, should still be standing. Nothing even close could do that as represented. I've been a pilot since 1969, and a master welder... thats my accounting, but there's far more....if one is open. What flight # hit the pentagon? what airline? what passengers were killed? NONE! clean wreckage from various aircrafts were on the lawn ...the next day."

 

Well, it was American Airlines Flight 77, a Boeing 757 enroute to LA with 64 passengers and five crew, the names of whom may be found on a memorial near the Pentagon. Nor was there "clean wreckage from various aircraft" on the lawn the next day.

 

Now I realize there are lots of folks who range from those with very vivid imaginations, to those who are simply deluded, to others who are but liars seeking their 15 minutes, peddling all manner of conspiracy theories, UFO sightings, etc. And, you may believe what you like. But really, spreading this kind of rubbish serves no one. It may entertain the so-called low-information crowd, but not for long.

 

But here's the deal I offer to anyone: In exchange for your $1,000 right now, I will sign a document that I will pay you $100,000 the very instant it can be shown beyond any doubt with physical proof that has passed bonafide, scientific investigation and scrutiny, that there exists or ever has existed any of the following: flying saucers, intelligent space aliens, Susquatch, vampires, werewolves, zombies, Loch Ness monsters; mermaids, ghosts, spirits and/or any other supernatural being - as well, that the U.S. government was behind 911.

Edited April 25, 2014 by HarryWeezer

[Sammy]

Uh, ok. If the feds are there to apprehend someone, but he is surrounded by armed men, they arent going to send the taxman with a clip board. They were hoping the armed men would back down but they didnt. So the feds chose to back off until the situation died down and then get him later. They always do. Any 'victory' is short lived. Its not like he is going anywhere or that they desperately need the money immediately to buy their pretty new jet fighters. Tax cheaters are arrested all the time and have been since taxes existed. They just dont make the news unless there is some political cause others can use them for. I imagine some people at Fox and various political staffers are going to lose their jobs for not checking this guy out first.

[Astronomer]

I'm lazy so I'll paste this instead of typing...

 

[Tball]

I think we need to have a BBQ with his Herd

[little_old_man]

I may start a new guided hunting service down in that area for cattle. With the price of beef through the roof right now, I think it will be a big hit.

 

I wonder who can be meaner, several hundred armed men willing to do anything to feed their families, or a couple dozen revolutionaries hell bent on not paying their taxes and seeing blacks back in slavery?

[Senapsbread]

Is that a "Don't thread on me" flag I see in the background?

[Dark Asylumn]

LOM this is what they edited out of his statement about the blacks and mexicans

 

 

 

 

What is quoted above is the middle of Bundy’s speech. Here is what Bundy said in the beginning. 

… and so what I’ve testified to you — I was in the Watts riot, I seen the beginning fire and I seen that last fire. What I seen is civil disturbance. People are not happy, people are thinking they don’t have their freedoms, they didn’t have these things, and they didn’t have them.

We’ve progressed quite a bit from that day until now, and we sure don’t want to go back. We sure don’t want the colored people to go back to that point. We sure don’t want these Mexican people to go back to that point. And we can make a difference right now by taking care of some of these bureaucracies, and do it in a peaceful way.

Now, here is what Bundy said at the end of the actual clip.

Now, let me talk about the Spanish people. You know, I understand that they come over here against our Constitution and cross our borders. But they’re here and they’re people — and I’ve worked side by side a lot of them.

Don’t tell me they don’t work, and don’t tell me they don’t pay taxes. And don’t tell me they don’t have better family structures than most of us white people. When you see those Mexican families, they’re together, they picnic together, they’re spending their time together, and I’ll tell you in my way of thinking they’re awful nice people. And we need to have those people join us and be with us not, not come to our party.

[KingStinger!]

I may start a new guided hunting service down in that area for cattle. With the price of beef through the roof right now, I think it will be a big hit.

 

I wonder who can be meaner, several hundred armed men willing to do anything to feed their families, or a couple dozen revolutionaries hell bent on not paying their taxes and seeing blacks back in slavery?

Come to southern Alberta, Cattle everywhere. Southern Alberta is estimates to have over 2 million head of beef. You can buy a side for the freezer for about $500 from a local farmer and you're good for a year

[little_old_man]

 

LOM this is what they edited out of his statement about the blacks and mexicans

 

 

 

 

What is quoted above is the middle of Bundy’s speech. Here is what Bundy said in the beginning. 

… and so what I’ve testified to you — I was in the Watts riot, I seen the beginning fire and I seen that last fire. What I seen is civil disturbance. People are not happy, people are thinking they don’t have their freedoms, they didn’t have these things, and they didn’t have them.

We’ve progressed quite a bit from that day until now, and we sure don’t want to go back. We sure don’t want the colored people to go back to that point. We sure don’t want these Mexican people to go back to that point. And we can make a difference right now by taking care of some of these bureaucracies, and do it in a peaceful way.

Now, here is what Bundy said at the end of the actual clip.

Now, let me talk about the Spanish people. You know, I understand that they come over here against our Constitution and cross our borders. But they’re here and they’re people — and I’ve worked side by side a lot of them.

Don’t tell me they don’t work, and don’t tell me they don’t pay taxes. And don’t tell me they don’t have better family structures than most of us white people. When you see those Mexican families, they’re together, they picnic together, they’re spending their time together, and I’ll tell you in my way of thinking they’re awful nice people. And we need to have those people join us and be with us not, not come to our party.

 

 

I agree DA that the media did edit his speech to make it sound completely different than he intended it, BUT, the original point of this entire story is that he made a deal with the federal government to lease land from the BLM for grazing his cattle. His views on race and the misrepresentation of what he actually said was nothing more than a convenient opportunity for the left leaning media to stick it to the idiots on the right that backed the cattle rancher. For whatever reasons, he decided to stop paying what he agreed to, and now owes that money to the feds, PERIOD.  His entire argument revolves around the fact that he's basically been squatting on that land for decades, and now he feels that he should rightfully own it which is complete bullshit. Several judges have ruled against him, and he still refuses to pay the back fees of more than a million dollars.  The BLM has every right to confiscate his cattle, put him in prision, and his battle cry of government abuse to rally the far right wingers to his side is nothing more than a ruse to avoid paying the back fees.

 

You can bet your bottom dollar that the BLM will eventually win and get those cows off of BLM land, sell them and get the money they are owed. If the BLM didn't manage that land and tens of millions of other acres of land across the country, you would have unregulated carnage on a huge scale. The land they manage is for all of us to use (something I've done a lot), and it's not for some cattle rancher to claim as his own because he can't play by the rules.   

 

By the way, if any of you want to go camping, hunting or fishing someplace nice without thousands of people around like a public campground or national park, and if you want to truly see unspoiled nature at its best, check out BLM land. It's a little known secret that I've taken advantage of most of my adult life.

[Dark Asylumn]

i wasnt commenting about the original thread i was just putting the rest of the speech in with what the media was circulating.  and thats all nothing more

[Senapsbread]

[Leadfinger]

I get so pissed these days when I hear a story from the "Asshole Media" that has been edited to conform to their agenda and creating diversions to keep regular folks scratching their heads trying to figure out the truth.

 

In my opinion the conduct of the mainstream media borders on treason

 

Here is the definition of Treason

 

U.S. Code › Title 18 › Part I › Chapter 115 › § 2381

18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

 

 

By manipulating what is published the major news media aids in the destruction of our nation. 

Some view the Obama administrations disrespectful kaos, economic "train wreck" and failed policies over the last 6 years as a direct threat to our nations survival (establishing him as an enemy of our country) 

 

The countless violations of the constitution, the abuse of his powers as president, Coverups and scandals everything from "fast and furious"  to Benghazi , The incredible "apology tour" Obama made in the first months of his first term and more that the news media refuses to accurately report on.

 

(The apology tour was when Obama toured all over the world apologizing to countries that we have had to "discipline" over the years for various human rights violations or acts of terror against the US . . . . screw that if we don't snap these countries back in line  who will?)

 

In a nutshell . . . .  .Obama is taking this country down and the news media is helping him.

 

 

(Yeah  . . .I kinda "went off" here and these statements are somewhat "out there" but the idea is to provoke thought and hope that more people will scrutinize the medias actions as damaging our nation)

[Mastiffking]

Here is the latest on this douche bag. All of the politicians who backed what he was doing are now trying to distance themselves from him because of these comments he made in an interview.

 

http://www.nbcnews.com/#/politics/politics-news/gop-scrambles-condemn-ranchers-remarks-race-n88556

 

“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” he said. Mr. Bundy recalled driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, “and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids — and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch — they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.

 

“And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he asked. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”

 

 

So do some of you still think this guy is starting a revolution?

Aren't those deplorable statements covered under the 1st Amendment of the United States Constitution?

Edited May 1, 2014 by Mastiffking

[PimpedOutPete]

Everyone has the freedom to say what they wish. We also, have the right to react to those comments. Edited comments or not, Bundy said what he said..

 

America's outrage is justified, and his 15 minutes of fame is done...